Completely agree. Some people think I was a golden "slurper" because I gave him enough time to have first class graduate. I wasn't a huge golden guy but I did ONLY BECAUSE of how terrible a coach Shannon was(and because unless inheriting a championship team I think most should graduate their first class). Shannon left this program worse than its ever been not even talking about Shapiro. Golden was left with conference USA talent. There were reports that he didn't even follow up with conditioning throughout the year (golden said it multiple times with how out of shape the team was and he said his temple team was in better condition). His recruiting classes turned out to be terrible and the majority of the NFL players he did manage to recruit never did anything respectable on campus and managed to succeed DESPITE Shannon, not because of him . 48-0 against Virginia at the farewell game in the orange bowl, whether true or not there was even reports that he sabotaged the incoming class golden had because he knew he was on the way out. He honestly single handedly killed this program, I wish nothing but the worst for him.
Did you forget Al says what ever he feels like to place blame on someone else? I'm not saying I don't believe some of it, but this is Al we're talking about. He was making excuses for his failures before he even started.
Funny you say players succeeded despite Shannon, because our players succeeded despite Golden. You're an idiot if you believe our downfall is all on Shannon. He had his part, but your Golden support is blinding you. Maybe you should take another look at how the fanbase felt about each coach at the end of their tenure. I think people might have actually killed someone if Golden stayed another year.
In the end, Shannon was not a good coach, but he at least had a decent defense. Golden sucked at everything.
I never said golden was a good coach. I said I gave him the chance to graduate his first recruiting class before deciding on a change. Like most organizations due as it eliminates all excuses and was easy to judge how bad he was.
I'm an idiot for thinking our downfall is on Shannon? Lmao. I never said it was 100% on Shannon however YOURE AN IDIOT if you think this team was in better shape when Shannon left
Coker Shannon and golden all take equal blame in this dumpster fire. The question was simply who left the program in better condition. You apparently lack the ability to read and seem to interpret me as a golden supporter. I am not and was not. The question was not which coach the fan boards hated more, it was who left the program in better condition. Golden is the obvious answer.
I said you're an idiot for thinking Shannon is our downfall because you said, and i quote, "He honestly single handedly killed this program, I wish nothing but the worst for him." That sounds a whole lot like saying Shannon is the reason for our downfall when you say he single handedly killed it, but I guess my reading comprehension is lacking.....
Furthermore, I guess I'm the idiot for saying Shannon left a better team, except, I NEVER SAID THAT! I said Shannon was a better coach that golden, because at least his teams were decent at something. You want to talk about reading comprehension while failing miserably at it.
As far as the condition the program was left in, shannons biggest failure was leaving no depth, but he left talent. If you were to ask me today if the program is in better shape, I might say golden, but not by as much as some think. Golden beats Shannon in dline, dbs, and qbs left behind. He also left us with some solid young players. Shannon left a better veteran group and had better rbs imo. Everything else was a wash, maybe even give Shannon a bump for leaving a better oline.
Keep in mind a lot of the guys people are hyping that golden has left is based on potential, not actual results, which means if they don't reach the potential, we will view them the same way as shannons guys when they are done.
