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BS85 said:
I'm not a Butch slurper but you don't just accidentally build the best team ever when on probation.
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Nobody said that..nobody is taking away what butch did..but it’s still not up with Saban and Dabo who sustained success..one did it in another locale while the other is doing at place that never won b4 on this level..Butch did it at Miami where it was some before..then hasn’t sniffed success since
 
305to954 said:
Nobody said that..nobody is taking away what butch did..but it’s still not up with Saban and Dabo who sustained success..one did it in another locale while the other is doing at place that never won b4 on this level..Butch did it at Miami where it was some before..then hasn’t sniffed success since
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what Butch did at Miami was incredible but it was just a few years removed from the greatest run any team in college ever had. South Florida kids were still in love with the Canes. The internet also wasn’t promoting every south Florida kid to the nation so Miami could handpick the Ed Reeds of the world. It was lightning in a bottle and wouldn’t happen again in the modern world
 
Taverndrunk99 said:
Around here
No one wanted Orgeron #1 team in the country
Schiano #1 defense in the country
Mario had #6 team in the country until Oregon Oregoned.
Butch just bent us over and drilled us in the butt.

Seems like the only thing people agree on is whoever our current coach is...sucks. Goes all the way back to Butch. Member when y'all wanted him fired too?
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Dont listen to CIS. I said herm edwards was a good coach. Go look at that thread. Herm edwards 10 times better than the crap we have here.
 
TheOldU2002 said:
Butch in his prime built a team better than any that Saban has ever had. Not even close.

But Butch’s prime was 20+ years ago, and Saban is the far better gameday coach. The time to bring him back was 2007, but we decided to be woke instead.

Of course a geriatric corpse of Butch is a better coach than Mandy iaz....
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I see what u trying to say but tryna compare butch to saban and make it like butch is a better coach is not a good look. U comparing a coach with no national titles to a coach with multiple titles.
 
305to954 said:
In his prime lmao??? Bro wtf Butch been doing the last 20 years..are you saying once he left Miami he all of a sudden forgot how to build a champion?? Miami created Butch or did Butch create Miami
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305to954 said:
Nobody said that..nobody is taking away what butch did..but it’s still not up with Saban and Dabo who sustained success..one did it in another locale while the other is doing at place that never won b4 on this level..Butch did it at Miami where it was some before..then hasn’t sniffed success since
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That's all cool extra info but I was answering your actual question (above) which was if Miami made Butch.
 
KevinCaneFace said:
what Butch did at Miami was incredible but it was just a few years removed from the greatest run any team in college ever had. South Florida kids were still in love with the Canes. The internet also wasn’t promoting every south Florida kid to the nation so Miami could handpick the Ed Reeds of the world. It was lightning in a bottle and wouldn’t happen again in the modern world
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Don’t tell Butchs nieces n nephews on this board that
 
BS85 said:
That's all cool extra info but I was answering your actual question (above) which was if Miami made Butch.
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History says without a doubt it was more catching lightning in a bottle then some that Butch could sustain or duplicate
 
nycane said:
Butch basically got us

butch basically for us 3 rings in a row. We got robbed in 1999 and 2002. Unlike bama we don’t get benefit
Of doubt. Sabans been there how long? put our 1999 or 2000 team against an all time bama team under Saban and we win
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No we don’t, because we’d get out-coached. Same reason why we lost to ECU in 1999 and Washington in 2000.

No team from any year beats an all-time bama team, regardless if they’re coached by Saban or Coker right now.
 
Barboni said:
No we don’t, because we’d get out-coached. Same reason why we lost to ECU in 1999 and Washington in 2000.

No team from any year beats an all-time bama team, regardless if they’re coached by Saban or Coker right now.
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ECU was better than this years FIU they had some legit nfl talent. They shouldn’t have beaten us but they weren’t trash
 
nycane said:
ECU was better than this years FIU they had some legit nfl talent. They shouldn’t have beaten us but they weren’t trash
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From 1999 to 2002 ECU had a grand total of 4 players taken the nfl draft..from 1999 to 2002 Miami had 28..

it’s not too far fetched to say FIU might have 4 guys taken in the draft by 2023. And for **** sure correct that this Miami team has nowhere near the same talent as that 1999 Miami team..either way you look at it Miami had no business losing to either squad. So its a fair equivalence.
 
nycane said:
ECU was better than this years FIU they had some legit nfl talent. They shouldn’t have beaten us but they weren’t trash
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They were better. This FIU team is garbage. The 99 team was a young talented team with no quality wins, except against an 8 win Gtech squad.
 
KevinCaneFace said:
what Butch did at Miami was incredible but it was just a few years removed from the greatest run any team in college ever had. South Florida kids were still in love with the Canes. The internet also wasn’t promoting every south Florida kid to the nation so Miami could handpick the Ed Reeds of the world. It was lightning in a bottle and wouldn’t happen again in the modern world
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Agreed! People need to wean themselves off of this Butch Davis Kool-Aid. Butch Davis' college coaching record is 86-57. If you remove his record while coaching at Miami and look at his tenure at North Carolina and FIU, it isn't that impressive. He was 12-23 at North Carolina (28-23 if you include his vacated games). He is 23-14 at FIU. Whoopdie-friggin-doo.
 
Barboni said:
They were better. This FIU team is garbage. The 99 team was a young talented team with no quality wins, except against an 8 win Gtech squad.
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i knew kids that turned down Big East and ACC schools to go to ECU. they had a nice little run. I think it was a horrible loss at the time but those ECU teams were better than this FIU team. sad part is this FIU team has been decimated by injuries and still beat us.
 
Taverndrunk99 said:
Around here
No one wanted Orgeron #1 team in the country
Schiano #1 defense in the country
Mario had #6 team in the country until Oregon Oregoned.
Butch just bent us over and drilled us in the butt.

Seems like the only thing people agree on is whoever our current coach is...sucks. Goes all the way back to Butch. Member when y'all wanted him fired too?
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I never wanted Davis chit-canned because their was no access to sites like this one, and other Cane sites, back in the day. In other words, I wouldn't be tempted to go along with the pick-fork carrying Cane horde. Nevertheless, I knew the sanctions put him behind the proverbial eight-ball and he would need time to get Miami on par, again.
 
Grash said:
Agreed! People need to wean themselves off of this Butch Davis Kool-Aid. Butch Davis' college coaching record is 86-57. If you remove his record while coaching at Miami and look at his tenure at North Carolina and FIU, it isn't that impressive. He was 12-23 at North Carolina (28-23 if you include his vacated games). He is 23-14 at FIU. Whoopdie-friggin-doo.
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North Carolina is an acc bottom feeding basketball school. He wasn’t being given UF, LSU, OSU, or Clemson type support. He still stocked their roster and had them on an upward trajectory.

FIU is FIU.

Butch would build a stacked team here TODAY.

Win a title? Probably not, but with the right coordinators, who knows?

You guys don’t want Butch? Fine but at least judge his record with context. Miami, UNC, and FIU were raging dumpster fires. The latter two had zero talent and UM was under crippling sanctions. Didn’t take over talented teams that just needed a kick in the ***.

Many great names have been thrown around that have no UM connections. Our administration isn’t smart enough to hire them.
When you look at the guys they do hire, Butch is the best choice.
 
I don't care who we lost to, i want to know who we plan to beat in the future.
 
Kiffin is no doubt better coach than Manny. Would just worry about him being the HC if Miami. Just seems like something really bad would happen.
 
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