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Ghandi

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It’s nearly that time of year, where the news and information goes away until at least late June.

I wanted to ask the board what they thought about the turnover in the starting lineup over the last three seasons. I’m looking at just the early season depth charts to try to get as apples to apples as possible.

2021 (Manny’s last season)
QB - D. King (transfer), developmental league player.
RB - Cam Harris (recruit), no professional career.
WR - Key Smith (recruit), went G5.
WR - C. Rambo (transfer), developmental league player.
WR - Mike Harley (recruit), no professional career.
TE - Will Mallory (recruit), will get chance to make NFL roster.
LT - Zion Nelson (recruit), has been good when he plays.
LG - Jalen Rivers (recruit), may get NFL shot.
C - Corey Gaynor (recruit), one more season to play.
RG - N. Donaldson (recruit), no professional career.
RT - DJ Scaife (recruit), no professional career.

DE - Z. McCloud (recruit), no professional career.
DE - J. Harvey (recruit), one more season in CFB.
DT - J. Ford (recruit), on NFL roster.
DT - N. Silvera (recruit), chance to make NFL roster.
LB - Corey Flagg (recruit), one more season left.
LB - Keontra Smith (recruit), one more season left.
Striker - A. Carter (recruit), no professional career.
S - Bubba Bolden (transfer), no professional career.
S - Gurvan Hall (recruit), recipient of the legendary Highsmith Invisible Flute Award.
CB - DJ Ivey (recruit), chance to make NFL roster.
CB - T. Stevenson (transfer), NFL player.

2022 (Fat Manny’s first season)
QB - Van Dyke (recruit), one more season.
RB - Henry Parrish (transfer), one more season.
WR - Key Smith (recruit), left to G5 level
WR - X Restrepo (recruit), two more seasons left.
WR - Michael Redding (recruit), one more season left.
TE - Will Mallory (recruit), will get opportunity to make NFL roster.
LT - J. Campbell (recruit), left to SEC
LG - J. Rivers (recruit), one more season.
C - J. Clark (recruit), left to G5
RG - Justice Oluwaseun (transfer), no professional career.
RT - DJ Scaife (recruit), no professional career

DE - A. Mesidor (transfer), two seasons left.
DE - J. Harvey (recruit), one season left.
DT - D. Jackson (transfer), left to FSU.
DT - L. Taylor (recruit), two seasons left.
LB - Corey Flagg (recruit), two seasons left.
LB - Waymon Steed (recruit), no professional career.
Star - Tecory Couch (recruit), two seasons left.
S - J. Williams (recruit), two seasons left.
S - K. Kitchens (recruit), two seasons left.
CB - DJ Ivey (recruit), chance to make NFL roster
CB - T. Stevenson (transfer), NFL player.

2023 (Upcoming season)
QB - T. Van Dyke (recruit), final season.
RB - D. Chaney (recruit), two seasons.
WR - C. Young (recruit), three seasons left.
WR - R. Jospeh (recruit), four seasons left.
WR - J. George (recruit), two seasons left.
TE - J. Skinner (recruit), three seasons left.
LT - Z. Nelson (recruit), final season.
LG - A Cohen (transfer), two seasons left.
C - M. Lee (transfer), two seasons left.
RG - A. Cooper (recruit), three seasons left.
RT - Francis Mauigoa (recruit), four seasons left.

DE - N. Kelly (recruit), three seasons left.
DE - A. Mesidor (transfer), two seasons left.
DT - L. Taylor (recruit), two seasons left.
DT - A. Moten (recruit), three seasons left.
LB - F. Mauigoa (transfer), two seasons left.
LB - R. Aguirre(recruit), four seasons left.
Striker - J. Harris (recruit), three seasons left.
S - J. Williams (recruit), two seasons left.
S - K. Kitchens (recruit), two seasons left.
CB - Davonte Brown (transfer), one season left.
CB - J. Richard (transfer), three seasons left.
 
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OFFENSE losses 2022-2203:

Starters-
OL-John Campbell
OL-Jakai Clark
OL-D.J. Scaife
TE-Will Mallory

Defense:
DT-Darrell Jackson
CB-Tyrique Stevenson
CB-D.J. Ivey


Leaving off a few freshman listing ones that have a chance to compete for SOME PT.
Offensive additions:

RB-Ajay Allen
RB-Mark Fletcher
RB-Chris Johnson
TE-Riley Williams
TE-Cam McCormick
WR-Tyler Harrell
WR-Shemar Kirk
WR-Ray Ray Joseph
WR-Robby Washington
OL-Javian Cohen
OL-Matt Lee
OL-Zion Nelson(injury)
OL-Francis Mauigoa
OL-Samson Okunlola


Defense:

DE-Rueben Bain
DT-Branson Deen
DL-Thomas Gore
DL-Anthony Campbell
LB-Francisco Mauigoa
LB-Bobby Washington
LB-Malik Bryant
LB-Popo Aguirre
CB-Devante Brown
CB-Jaden Davis
CB-Terry Roberts
CB-Jadais Richard
CB-Demari Brown
CB-Robert Stafford
S-Kaleb Spencer
 
We lost to MTSU last year because we were basically MTSU talent level minus a few spots but mix in a bunch of bad attitudes, a horrible OC, and you can see why it really wasnt even an upset.

Big improvement this year. More wins, more competitive, more talented, and if we stay healthy we shouldnt have one embarrassing loss this season where for a week we are saying "Miami shouldnt lose to ___" or "Miami should not lose by ______"
 
HurricanePhilly said:
We lost to MTSU last year because we were basically MTSU talent level minus a few spots but mix in a bunch of bad attitudes, a horrible OC, and you can see why it really wasnt even an upset.

Big improvement this year. More wins, more competitive, more talented, and if we stay healthy we shouldnt have one embarrassing loss this season where for a week we are saying "Miami shouldnt lose to ___" or "Miami should not lose by ______"
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Guidry and Dawson will have us competitive to good

If we don’t get to 8 wins we should all be disappointed. The schedule isn’t that tough
 
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HurricanePhilly said:
We lost to MTSU last year because we were basically MTSU talent level minus a few spots but mix in a bunch of bad attitudes, a horrible OC, and you can see why it really wasnt even an upset.

Big improvement this year. More wins, more competitive, more talented, and if we stay healthy we shouldnt have one embarrassing loss this season where for a week we are saying "Miami shouldnt lose to ___" or "Miami should not lose by ______"
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We didn’t show up… we didn’t play to win against A&M, then didn’t show up against MTSU because the entire locker room, including coaches, was toxic…

Pretty absurd when you think about it … especially on the coaching side… the hiring of Gattis was a snowball down a mountain to ****…
 
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If we can keep the O-Line healthy this year we will be much improved. The units we had playing last year were embarrassing - Undersized and weak AF,

The receivers I think will be night and day this year. I think if Chaney can have a healthy year our RB room will be so much better. We have a lot of different types of bodies as well. Fletcher brings power and Johnson has game breaking speed. Citizen is my favourite recruit, hopefully he can get healthy and be back sometime this season.

I really like Guidry’s defence and think we are going to be better than expected. Only worry is at DT. CB room has depth, but we need a couple players to emerge and be difference makers. Mauigoa at LB will make the LB room instantly better.

I was down on the team after last year’s abomination, but really like the direction with the new staff.
 
Ghandi said:
It’s nearly that time of year, where the news and information goes away until at least late June.

I wanted to ask the board what they thought about the turnover in the starting lineup over the last three seasons. I’m looking at just the early season depth charts to try to get as apples to apples as possible.

2021 (Manny’s last season)
QB - D. King (transfer), developmental league player.
RB - Cam Harris (recruit), no professional career.
WR - Key Smith (recruit), went G5.
WR - C. Rambo (transfer), developmental league player.
WR - Mike Harley (recruit), no professional career.
TE - Will Mallory (recruit), will get chance to make NFL roster.
LT - Zion Nelson (recruit), has been good when he plays.
LG - Jalen Rivers (recruit), may get NFL shot.
C - Corey Gaynor (recruit), one more season to play.
RG - N. Donaldson (recruit), no professional career.
RT - DJ Scaife (recruit), no professional career.

DE - Z. McCloud (recruit), no professional career.
DE - J. Harvey (recruit), one more season in CFB.
DT - J. Ford (recruit), on NFL roster.
DT - N. Silvera (recruit), chance to make NFL roster.
LB - Corey Flagg (recruit), one more season left.
LB - Keontra Smith (recruit), one more season left.
Striker - A. Carter (recruit), no professional career.
S - Bubba Bolden (transfer), no professional career.
S - Gurvan Hall (recruit), recipient of the legendary Highsmith Invisible Flute Award.
CB - DJ Ivey (recruit), chance to make NFL roster.
CB - T. Stevenson (transfer), NFL player.

2022 (Fat Manny’s first season)
QB - Van Dyke (recruit), one more season.
RB - Henry Parrish (transfer), one more season.
WR - Key Smith (recruit), left to G5 level
WR - X Restrepo (recruit), two more seasons left.
WR - Michael Redding (recruit), one more season left.
TE - Will Mallory (recruit), will get opportunity to make NFL roster.
LT - J. Campbell (recruit), left to SEC
LG - J. Rivers (recruit), one more season.
C - J. Clark (recruit), left to G5
RG - Justice Oluwaseun (transfer), no professional career.
RT - DJ Scaife (recruit), no professional career

DE - A. Mesidor (transfer), two seasons left.
DE - J. Harvey (recruit), one season left.
DT - D. Jackson (transfer), left to FSU.
DT - L. Taylor (recruit), two seasons left.
LB - Corey Flagg (recruit), two seasons left.
LB - Waymon Steed (recruit), no professional career.
Star - Tecory Couch (recruit), two seasons left.
S - J. Williams (recruit), two seasons left.
S - K. Kitchens (recruit), two seasons left.
CB - DJ Ivey (recruit), chance to make NFL roster
CB - T. Stevenson (transfer), NFL player.

2023 (Upcoming season)
QB - T. Van Dyke (recruit), final season.
RB - D. Chaney (recruit), two seasons.
WR - C. Young (recruit), three seasons left.
WR - R. McCloud (recruit), four seasons left.
WR - J. George (recruit), two seasons left.
TE - J. Skinner (recruit), three seasons left.
LT - Z. Nelson (recruit), final season.
LG - A Cohen (transfer), two seasons left.
C - M. Lee (transfer), two seasons left.
RG - A. Cooper (recruit), three seasons left.
RT - Francis Mauigoa (recruit), four seasons left.

DE - N. Kelly (recruit), three seasons left.
DE - A. Mesidor (transfer), two seasons left.
DT - L. Taylor (recruit), two seasons left.
DT - A. Moten (recruit), three seasons left.
LB - F. Mauigoa (transfer), two seasons left.
LB - R. Aguirre(recruit), four seasons left.
Striker - J. Harris (recruit), three seasons left.
S - J. Williams (recruit), two seasons left.
S - K. Kitchens (recruit), two seasons left.
CB - Davonte Brown (transfer), one season left.
CB - J. Richard (transfer), three seasons left.
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Going to have a real experienced group in 24
 
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Angry Ibis said:
We didn’t show up… we didn’t play to win against A&M, then didn’t show up against MTSU because the entire locker room, including coaches, was toxic…

Pretty absurd when you think about it … especially on the coaching side… the hiring of Gattis was a snowball down a mountain to ****…
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The most elite coaches are always learning. It doesnt always go right and Gattis was def a learning experience for Mario. Sometimes things have to get worse before they get better. I think last year was rock bottom in our stretch of no success. We begin trending up this year. No predictions...just massive progress.
 
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TVD staying healthy and dialed in is critical. I like our roster and coordinators so much better now. Ready to put the Gattis fiasco behind us and seeing what this new roster and coaches can do. We improve and retain and develop the right players and have a couple more top end crootin classes and the sky is the limit. Who knows. Let's go Canes 🏈
 
JustAFanHTX said:
I just read that we were MTSU talent level last season. This is why I refrain from opinions now lol
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were we not? I said MTSU level other than a few spots. (Btw I am not one of those posters who will get my panties in a wad if you disagree...I'm 43...I'm a man)

I just think 90% of our roster last September wasnt an ACC roster. Was it MTSU level...maybe a stretch. But I'm a fan let me overreact a bit.
 
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