Sports Buzz: defensive scheme talk & jc jackson update

[252cane]

### Talking to departing Canes players at UM’s Hall of Fame fundraiser on Monday night, it was clear how excited the current ones are about coordinator Manny Diaz’s attacking defense and to be finally set free from their rigid approach under Mark D’Onofrio.

Tyriq McCord mentioned how “a lot of guys like to use instincts and not over-think” --– and that they can finally do that now because they’re no longer playing D’Onofrio’s “read and react” defense. In this system, defensive end Al-Quadin Muhammad “will have double digit sacks this year,” McCord predicted.

“[Defensive lineman] Chad Thomas sometimes played inside before; my understanding is he will play strictly outside now, like he did in high school,” McCord added. “The safeties and linebackers like this scheme.”

Departing safety Dallas Crawford said safeties coach Ephraim Banda picked his brain and asked what was the team’s biggest problem last year. Crawford told him the importance of “getting fun and passion back" on this UM defense.

### Crawford said a bunch of Canes draft prospects, plus alums Phillip Dorsett, Denzel Perryman, Olivier Vernon and others, are working with dismissed strength coach Andreu Swasey at a high school instead of using UM’s facility. There’s disappointment over Swasey’s firing among ex-players, but we’re told the new staff believed the team wasn’t tough enough last year and Mark Richt wanted a new approach to conditioning.

### Several UM fans continue to ask us about four-star junior college cornerback JC Jackson, a talent who immediately would upgrade at a Miami need position. But to this point, defensive backs coach Mike Rumph's interest in Jackson hasn't resulted in an offer.

Isaac Shipp, Jackson's defensive backs coach at Riverside Community College, said Rumph called him and told him how interested Miami is in adding Jackson to the roster. And Jackson told Canesport this week:

"I talked to coach Rumph. He'd seen me play against them [in high school], he said I'm one of the best players he's seen, that I can come in and be a great player at Miami. He said I can talk to the head coach and defensive coordinator --- he wants to get me on the phone with them. I'll do that this week or next week."

Meanwhile, Shipp told me this week that UM is Jackson's top choice.

Against that backdrop, it was notable that Peter Ariz reported tonight that Miami is not even recruiting Jackson. That is true in that UM has not made an offer.

And I'm told tonight that UM hasn't even gone through the measures needed internally to offer a player who was charged (and later acquitted) with armed robbery. So for whatever reason --- perhaps his legal history --- UM hasn't moved quickly on this. Also, Jackson needs to get his AA degree in May to even be eligible in 2016.

Though UM signed University of Texas backup Adrian Colbert this week, he's a safety, not a corner. Colbert helps Miami's situation at safety only if the moves results in Jaquan Johnson playing more at corner, which is a possibility. And regardless, UM's situation at corner is very shaky.

 

[omaha]

Never seen many lineman work with Swasey.

 

[WR Cane]

What was the WR from Ole Miss dismissed for?

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Never seen many lineman work with Swasey.

I think Swasey's background is speed training which is why skill guys love him but that makes no sense. South Florida players typically bring speed to college with them. We've needed strength to push teams around since he took over.

 

[Astcloud11]

Never seen many lineman work with Swasey.

I think Swasey's background is speed training which is why skill guys love him but that makes no sense. South Florida players typically bring speed to college with them. We've needed strength to push teams around since he took over.

I don't even think this is true...considering none of our players except Dorsett and Burns were considered having elite speed.
On the other hand, all of our players go to the combine and surprise people with their strength. Back to back years where we had a player lead their position in bench presses... but ofcourse, someone will find a way to twist this and give no credit to Swasey for it

 

[mirvin88]

What was the WR from Ole Miss dismissed for?

Too little sunshine

 

[mirvin88]

Never seen many lineman work with Swasey.

I think Swasey's background is speed training which is why skill guys love him but that makes no sense. South Florida players typically bring speed to college with them. We've needed strength to push teams around since he took over.

I don't even think this is true...considering none of our players except Dorsett and Burns were considered having elite speed.
On the other hand, all of our players go to the combine and surprise people with their strength. Back to back years where we had a player lead their position in bench presses... but ofcourse, someone will find a way to twist this and give no credit to Swasey for it

Bench press means nothing

 

[marshallrc13]

Never seen many lineman work with Swasey.

I think Swasey's background is speed training which is why skill guys love him but that makes no sense. South Florida players typically bring speed to college with them. We've needed strength to push teams around since he took over.

I guess that could explain a little of his non production over the last hand full of years. He's big on speed and quickness and Golden wanted bigger slower guys. I can see that.

 

[marshallrc13]

Never seen many lineman work with Swasey.

I think Swasey's background is speed training which is why skill guys love him but that makes no sense. South Florida players typically bring speed to college with them. We've needed strength to push teams around since he took over.

I don't even think this is true...considering none of our players except Dorsett and Burns were considered having elite speed.
On the other hand, all of our players go to the combine and surprise people with their strength. Back to back years where we had a player lead their position in bench presses... but ofcourse, someone will find a way to twist this and give no credit to Swasey for it

Bench press means nothing

It does if you're an OL/DL and you use your hands and upper body strength to shield and push other big dudes around.

 

[Canedog]

If Rumph called JC and told him he could come in and be a great player at Miami, dat Miami got dam crooting this man ... as they should be.

 

[mirvin88]

Never seen many lineman work with Swasey.

I think Swasey's background is speed training which is why skill guys love him but that makes no sense. South Florida players typically bring speed to college with them. We've needed strength to push teams around since he took over.

I don't even think this is true...considering none of our players except Dorsett and Burns were considered having elite speed.
On the other hand, all of our players go to the combine and surprise people with their strength. Back to back years where we had a player lead their position in bench presses... but ofcourse, someone will find a way to twist this and give no credit to Swasey for it

Bench press means nothing

It does if you're an OL/DL and you use your hands and upper body strength to shield and push other big dudes around.

Nope

 

[marshallrc13]

I think Swasey's background is speed training which is why skill guys love him but that makes no sense. South Florida players typically bring speed to college with them. We've needed strength to push teams around since he took over.

I don't even think this is true...considering none of our players except Dorsett and Burns were considered having elite speed.
On the other hand, all of our players go to the combine and surprise people with their strength. Back to back years where we had a player lead their position in bench presses... but ofcourse, someone will find a way to twist this and give no credit to Swasey for it

Bench press means nothing

It does if you're an OL/DL and you use your hands and upper body strength to shield and push other big dudes around.

Nope

ok

 

[mirvin88]

I don't even think this is true...considering none of our players except Dorsett and Burns were considered having elite speed.
On the other hand, all of our players go to the combine and surprise people with their strength. Back to back years where we had a player lead their position in bench presses... but ofcourse, someone will find a way to twist this and give no credit to Swasey for it

Bench press means nothing

It does if you're an OL/DL and you use your hands and upper body strength to shield and push other big dudes around.

Nope

ok

Must be why the top two tackles in the draft didn't bench at the combine. Or why the history of guys that put up ridiculous bench numbers is terrible.

 

[Astcloud11]

Bench press means nothing

It does if you're an OL/DL and you use your hands and upper body strength to shield and push other big dudes around.

Nope

ok

Must be why the top two tackles in the draft didn't bench at the combine. Or why the history of guys that put up ridiculous bench numbers is terrible.

Did you even read what the topic of my reply was? We were discussing our S&C and you just said bench press means nothing, now you're bringing up how good or bad they were...it's null to the point of the topic at hand, which was claiming our players were too weak. So please explain to me how bench presses has nothing to do with our players being weak.

 

[Zbrod95]

Bench press means nothing

It does if you're an OL/DL and you use your hands and upper body strength to shield and push other big dudes around.

Nope

ok

Must be why the top two tackles in the draft didn't bench at the combine. Or why the history of guys that put up ridiculous bench numbers is terrible.

Jarran Reed, Lawrence Thomas, Nile Lawerence - Staple, Adam Gotsis, and Antuawn Woods are the Only DT's that didn't bench. Deforest Buckner isn't a DT he's a 3-4 end and Jarran reed isn't one of the top 2 DT's in the draft, so you're wrong

 

[mirvin88]

It does if you're an OL/DL and you use your hands and upper body strength to shield and push other big dudes around.

Nope

ok

Must be why the top two tackles in the draft didn't bench at the combine. Or why the history of guys that put up ridiculous bench numbers is terrible.

Did you even read what the topic of my reply was? We were discussing our S&C and you just said bench press means nothing, now you're bringing up how good or bad they were...it's null to the point of the topic at hand, which was claiming our players were too weak. So please explain to me how bench presses has nothing to do with our players being weak.

You claim that our players surprise people by their strength and support that by bench numbers. High bench numbers does not mean you're strong and has very little impact on your ability as a football player in comparison to other attributes as evidenced by the high bust rate for top performers at the exercise and lack of emphasis on it by scouts.

 

[mirvin88]

It does if you're an OL/DL and you use your hands and upper body strength to shield and push other big dudes around.

Nope

ok

Must be why the top two tackles in the draft didn't bench at the combine. Or why the history of guys that put up ridiculous bench numbers is terrible.

Jarran Reed, Lawrence Thomas, Nile Lawerence - Staple, Adam Gotsis, and Antuawn Woods are the Only DT's that didn't bench. Deforest Buckner isn't a DT he's a 3-4 end and Jarran reed isn't one of the top 2 DT's in the draft, so you're wrong

Offensive tackles

 

[QSTOKES]

Banda should've picked Deon Bush's brain not Crawfords

 

[Astcloud11]

Nope

ok

Must be why the top two tackles in the draft didn't bench at the combine. Or why the history of guys that put up ridiculous bench numbers is terrible.

Did you even read what the topic of my reply was? We were discussing our S&C and you just said bench press means nothing, now you're bringing up how good or bad they were...it's null to the point of the topic at hand, which was claiming our players were too weak. So please explain to me how bench presses has nothing to do with our players being weak.

You claim that our players surprise people by their strength and support that by bench numbers. High bench numbers does not mean you're strong and has very little impact on your ability as a football player in comparison to other attributes as evidenced by the high bust rate for top performers at the exercise and lack of emphasis on it by scouts.

Then what measurables can be used to compare how strong players are? Because again, we aren't talking about good or bad players so bust rate means nothing like I said. When someone claims a player as weak, that means they are unable to obtain leverage or push at the LOS, Ereck Flowers abilities as a lineman is based around the strength that he has, his knock as a player was technique and footwork but yet he got drafted #9 overall. If bench press didn't matter it wouldn't be in the combine.

 

[marshallrc13]

ok

Must be why the top two tackles in the draft didn't bench at the combine. Or why the history of guys that put up ridiculous bench numbers is terrible.

Did you even read what the topic of my reply was? We were discussing our S&C and you just said bench press means nothing, now you're bringing up how good or bad they were...it's null to the point of the topic at hand, which was claiming our players were too weak. So please explain to me how bench presses has nothing to do with our players being weak.

You claim that our players surprise people by their strength and support that by bench numbers. High bench numbers does not mean you're strong and has very little impact on your ability as a football player in comparison to other attributes as evidenced by the high bust rate for top performers at the exercise and lack of emphasis on it by scouts.

What other measurables can show strength. Because again, we aren't talking about good or bad players so bust rate means nothing like I said. When someone claims a player as weak, that means they are unable to obtain leverage or push at the LOS, Ereck Flowers abilities as a lineman is based around the strength that he has, his knock as a player was technique and footwork but yet he got drafted #9 overall. If bench press didn't matter it wouldn't be in the combine.

For lineman they should test bench press and squat. Those are 2 indicators of a lineman's strength. They can do the 3 cone drills to test their agility. 40s, vertical, and broad jump IMO they can throw out for OL.