Speculation - Miami makes playoffs regardless of result

[WeBallinBoyz]

I actually think that if Auburn wins handily this weekend (which very well could happen) then Bama would not get in at 11-1. Having your best wins as Mississippi St and LSU is definitely not a highlight.

 

[CanesFan23]

It's pathetic a team like Alabama could lose to Auburn and not even play in their conference championship, but have a spot locked up in the 4 team playoff.

 

[monkey1371]

It's pathetic a team like Alabama could lose to Auburn and not even play in their conference championship, but have a spot locked up in the 4 team playoff.

I don't think they do. Talking heads have been saying the same thing....they will need help in that scenario.

SEC Champ Auburn or UGA
ACC Champ Clemson or Miami
B12 Champ OU
B10 Champ Undefeated Wisconsin goes in before them

And I don't subscribe to the doom and gloom, anti Miami conspiracy that everyone else does if it comes down to an 11-1 Bama versus 11-1 Miami.

Miami will have a better loss (Clemson beat Auburn)
Miami will have the higher quality win (ND)
Miami will have won their division

But if Clemson is the 1 seed.....Committee probably will not make us #4 and have a rematch....so that works against us.

 

[ThomasM]

I'm starting to believe we are in over every one loss team, if we lose a close one to Clemson. This changes if Alabama loses one. I think our resume is super strong, even with a loss. IF our only loss is to Clemson in the championship game, Ohio State and Auburn would have an impossible task jumping us. First, Auburn lost to Clemson, AND they lost to an LSU team that lost to Troy. OSU got mutilated by Iowa. I was thinking Auburn might jump us, but I am not so sure they will.

Wisconsin will have to lose to OSU, if we lose to Clemson. However, we very well COULD stay ahead of OU, since our loss in a championship game would trump their loss to Iowa State. Hocutt said Clemson is ahead of OU because they lost at home to Iowa State, while Clemson lost on the road to Syracuse. Now, if our only loss is to Clemson in a championship game, that should be better than OU losing at home to Iowa State.

I think they want Miami in, because they know ratings will be through the roof. What we have to do this weekend is win convincingly to create some separation. Undefeated going into the championship game will hold a lot of weight, and they will have a hard time penalizing Miami for losing a close championship game after finishing the regular season undefeated.

All that being said, I think we win out.

 

[supacane]

You mofos sound like the lunatics who always talking about Globalist are running ****. Like oh, you just figured that people with money control ****, **** breaking news. I thought about it, and other than last year they always got the right 4 imo. I thought PSU should have gotten in because they beat Ohio St. But one could argue for Ohio St because PSU did have two losses and got drubbed by Mich. Not unreasonable. I Wil argue with anyone, but crying about fixes when there are games left to play just sounds stupid. Nobody have gotten shafted more than Wisconsin and if they win their next two games, they are in. Period. We have had good reasons to about crap that the media throws at us at times but sometimes it's just people ing just to . Lawd

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[BloodEunsOrangeAndGreen]

1. Miami has to beat Pitt and play Clemson close.
2. Bama has to win out leaving the SEC with only one team in. Auburn wins this weekend and Bama gets in as 11-1.
3. OSU* has to beat WISC. WISC at 13-0 gets in even with that FCS schedule.


It would help if Michigan beat OSU*.

That leaves
13-0 Bama
12-1 Clemson
11-1 Miami
12-1 OU

WSC 12-1
OSU 11-2
USC 11-2
UGA 11-2
PSU 10-2
ND 10-2
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FSU 6-6
UF 4-8

I want to know how anyone can compare a one loss non confrence champion Alabama and put them in over a one loss non confrence champion Miami. We have better wins, a harder strength of schedule, and our one loss(think we kill Clemson but just for arguments sake) would be better then their loss. Plus we actually made our confrence championship. If Alabama loses this weekend that should in most logical discussions have us ranked over Alabama for that 4th spot if we in fact lost.

 

[407cane]

Reality - Doubtful

Especially with Ohio State and Notre Dame both on the doorstep to sneak into that 4th spot.

ND is as dead as dead can be. 2 loss AND no conference championship.

Notre Dame is 8th right now with a clear as day path to the 4 spot.

Notre Dame beats Stanford
Auburn and Georgia lose to Alabama
Wisconsin loses to Ohio State
One of the two ACC teams loses

Notre Dame backdoors in the #4 spot. Their combined SOS and SOR is the best in the country.

Plus the committee has a track record of putting in the big time money schools.

Do I think they jump a 1 loss Miami? No. Would I be shocked if they did? Not at all.

then that would be Bama, Acc Champ, Ou, Acc loser/Ohio State...ND has a 0% chance. Less then 0% actually.

You can say it all you want, but It's just not true. Notre Dame will be the strongest two loss team regardless of what Ohio State does. The committee the last 3 years has established that they don't give a **** about conference championships.

There's a reason why Notre Dame stayed ahead of Ohio State after getting demolished by Miami, the same week that Ohio State absolutely demolished Michigan State. These rankings are set up for the long term. They'd bulldoze their own mothers house to get Notre Dame in the Final 4.

so you're implying notre dame with two losess and a loss to miami 41-8 ,would get in OVER miami with one loss who as mentioned before, beat ND 41-8?

or is this scenario if bama miami and oklahoma win out, and wisky loses?

even then, CFP committee loves ohio state and they would get in over notre dame 10 times out of 10

 

[GenericYesMan]

ND is as dead as dead can be. 2 loss AND no conference championship.

Notre Dame is 8th right now with a clear as day path to the 4 spot.

Notre Dame beats Stanford
Auburn and Georgia lose to Alabama
Wisconsin loses to Ohio State
One of the two ACC teams loses

Notre Dame backdoors in the #4 spot. Their combined SOS and SOR is the best in the country.

Plus the committee has a track record of putting in the big time money schools.

Do I think they jump a 1 loss Miami? No. Would I be shocked if they did? Not at all.

then that would be Bama, Acc Champ, Ou, Acc loser/Ohio State...ND has a 0% chance. Less then 0% actually.

You can say it all you want, but It's just not true. Notre Dame will be the strongest two loss team regardless of what Ohio State does. The committee the last 3 years has established that they don't give a **** about conference championships.

There's a reason why Notre Dame stayed ahead of Ohio State after getting demolished by Miami, the same week that Ohio State absolutely demolished Michigan State. These rankings are set up for the long term. They'd bulldoze their own mothers house to get Notre Dame in the Final 4.

so you're implying notre dame with two losess and a loss to miami 41-8 ,would get in OVER miami with one loss who as mentioned before, beat ND 41-8?

or is this scenario if bama miami and oklahoma win out, and wisky loses?

even then, CFP committee loves ohio state and they would get in over notre dame 10 times out of 10

My point is that I will not be shocked if Miami loses to Clemson they'll play the "this was a playoff game" horse**** angle and dump Miami below Notre Dame or Ohio State. They've done it before to more deserving teams and they'll do it again.

And yes, if Miami/Bama/Oklahoma win out and Wisky loses Notre Dame is taking that 4th spot. Absolute lock.

The committee has set them up to jump everyone but the Top 3 teams, they take care of business this weekend have the easiest path to the title game of any two loss team unless Wisconsin absolutely gets flattened by Ohio State.

 

[BloodEunsOrangeAndGreen]

1. Miami has to beat Pitt and play Clemson close.
2. Bama has to win out leaving the SEC with only one team in. Auburn wins this weekend and Bama gets in as 11-1.
3. OSU* has to beat WISC. WISC at 13-0 gets in even with that FCS schedule.


It would help if Michigan beat OSU*.

That leaves
13-0 Bama
12-1 Clemson
11-1 Miami
12-1 OU

WSC 12-1
OSU 11-2
USC 11-2
UGA 11-2
PSU 10-2
ND 10-2
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FSU 6-6
UF 4-8

I want to know how anyone can compare a one loss non confrence champion Alabama and put them in over a one loss non confrence champion Miami. We have better wins, a harder strength of schedule, and our one loss(think we kill Clemson but just for arguments sake) would be better then their loss. Plus we actually made our confrence championship. If Alabama loses this weekend that should in most logical discussions have us ranked over Alabama for that 4th spot if we in fact lost.

I’m more worried about then pulling that two loss confrence champion bs. If 2 loss Ohio State(demolished by Iowa) gets in over a one loss Miami who’s only loss was to Clemson(number one or two team in the country) then the comittee has some major flaws and they just need to expand to 8 teams 5 confrence champions and 3 at large so atleast a top team isn’t getting screwed. It saturates the season a tad but atleast no desrving team gets left out

 

[GenericYesMan]

1. Miami has to beat Pitt and play Clemson close.
2. Bama has to win out leaving the SEC with only one team in. Auburn wins this weekend and Bama gets in as 11-1.
3. OSU* has to beat WISC. WISC at 13-0 gets in even with that FCS schedule.


It would help if Michigan beat OSU*.

That leaves
13-0 Bama
12-1 Clemson
11-1 Miami
12-1 OU

WSC 12-1
OSU 11-2
USC 11-2
UGA 11-2
PSU 10-2
ND 10-2
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FSU 6-6
UF 4-8

I want to know how anyone can compare a one loss non confrence champion Alabama and put them in over a one loss non confrence champion Miami. We have better wins, a harder strength of schedule, and our one loss(think we kill Clemson but just for arguments sake) would be better then their loss. Plus we actually made our confrence championship. If Alabama loses this weekend that should in most logical discussions have us ranked over Alabama for that 4th spot if we in fact lost.

I’m more worried about then pulling that two loss confrence champion bs. If 2 loss Ohio State(demolished by Iowa) gets in over a one loss Miami who’s only loss was to Clemson(number one or two team in the country) then the comittee has some major flaws and they just need to expand to 8 teams 5 confrence champions and 3 at large so atleast a top team isn’t getting screwed. It saturates the season a tad but atleast no desrving team gets left out

They'll say the ACC Title Game was the pseudo first round of the playoff and that losses in December are more costly than losses in October. They'll say Ohio State beat an unbeaten team and won their conference.

Same way the spun Ohio State into the playoffs last year without a conference title, same way the spun Ohio State in 2014 and dropped TCU 3 spots after a 55-6 win to close their season to make it happen.

 

[407cane]

Notre Dame is 8th right now with a clear as day path to the 4 spot.

Notre Dame beats Stanford
Auburn and Georgia lose to Alabama
Wisconsin loses to Ohio State
One of the two ACC teams loses

Notre Dame backdoors in the #4 spot. Their combined SOS and SOR is the best in the country.

Plus the committee has a track record of putting in the big time money schools.

Do I think they jump a 1 loss Miami? No. Would I be shocked if they did? Not at all.

then that would be Bama, Acc Champ, Ou, Acc loser/Ohio State...ND has a 0% chance. Less then 0% actually.

You can say it all you want, but It's just not true. Notre Dame will be the strongest two loss team regardless of what Ohio State does. The committee the last 3 years has established that they don't give a **** about conference championships.

There's a reason why Notre Dame stayed ahead of Ohio State after getting demolished by Miami, the same week that Ohio State absolutely demolished Michigan State. These rankings are set up for the long term. They'd bulldoze their own mothers house to get Notre Dame in the Final 4.

so you're implying notre dame with two losess and a loss to miami 41-8 ,would get in OVER miami with one loss who as mentioned before, beat ND 41-8?

or is this scenario if bama miami and oklahoma win out, and wisky loses?

even then, CFP committee loves ohio state and they would get in over notre dame 10 times out of 10

My point is that I will not be shocked if Miami loses to Clemson they'll play the "this was a playoff game" horse**** angle and dump Miami below Notre Dame or Ohio State. They've done it before to more deserving teams and they'll do it again.

And yes, if Miami/Bama/Oklahoma win out and Wisky loses Notre Dame is taking that 4th spot. Absolute lock.

The committee has set them up to jump everyone but the Top 3 teams, they take care of business this weekend have the easiest path to the title game of any two loss team unless Wisconsin absolutely gets flattened by Ohio State.

no, not even close

look at the rankings now, it's obvious head to head matters more than anything

auburn > uga > nd

ohio state > penn state


ND has less than 0% chance to get in

 

[GenericYesMan]

then that would be Bama, Acc Champ, Ou, Acc loser/Ohio State...ND has a 0% chance. Less then 0% actually.

You can say it all you want, but It's just not true. Notre Dame will be the strongest two loss team regardless of what Ohio State does. The committee the last 3 years has established that they don't give a **** about conference championships.

There's a reason why Notre Dame stayed ahead of Ohio State after getting demolished by Miami, the same week that Ohio State absolutely demolished Michigan State. These rankings are set up for the long term. They'd bulldoze their own mothers house to get Notre Dame in the Final 4.

so you're implying notre dame with two losess and a loss to miami 41-8 ,would get in OVER miami with one loss who as mentioned before, beat ND 41-8?

or is this scenario if bama miami and oklahoma win out, and wisky loses?

even then, CFP committee loves ohio state and they would get in over notre dame 10 times out of 10

My point is that I will not be shocked if Miami loses to Clemson they'll play the "this was a playoff game" horse**** angle and dump Miami below Notre Dame or Ohio State. They've done it before to more deserving teams and they'll do it again.

And yes, if Miami/Bama/Oklahoma win out and Wisky loses Notre Dame is taking that 4th spot. Absolute lock.

The committee has set them up to jump everyone but the Top 3 teams, they take care of business this weekend have the easiest path to the title game of any two loss team unless Wisconsin absolutely gets flattened by Ohio State.

no, not even close

look at the rankings now, it's obvious head to head matters more than anything

auburn > uga > nd

ohio state > penn state


ND has less than 0% chance to get in

The same rankings that has Notre Dame ahead of Ohio State already?

How is this so difficult to see? They're in the prime 2 loss position. They have the best resume of any of the two loss teams. They have the best SOS and SOR of any of the two loss teams. They're the biggest money draw in play.

Auburn and Georgia are both out if they lose to Alabama. There's obviously no way they're putting in a 3 loss Auburn and UGA is one spot ahead of Notre Dame heading into this weekend you think UGA losing to Bama with Notre Dame staying idle will keep them ahead of ND?

This is simple logic.

 

[Canedog]

The establishment sees Miami and the Turn Over Chain as a threat. They will stop at nothing to keep the Turn Over Chain from taking over all of college football.

 

[Canesfan101]

It's pathetic a team like Alabama could lose to Auburn and not even play in their conference championship, but have a spot locked up in the 4 team playoff.

If Alabama loses to Auburn it wont be automatic for them to get in. They would be 11-1 with no sec championship and still need others to lose.
One of Miami and Clemson will be in, we'll say Miami at 12-0, You would have the SEC Champ in, lets say Auburn at 11-2, Wisconsin could be 13-0, and if OU wins out that puts them a 12-1 with a conference championship.
1. Miami 12-0, ACC Champ
2. OU 12-1. Big 12 Champ
3.Aub 11-2 sec Champ
4. Wisc 13-0 Big10 Champ

The Bamers are out in this scenario. Not saying it will happen, just that it isnt automatic for bama to lose and still get in.

 

[Canesfan101]

You can say it all you want, but It's just not true. Notre Dame will be the strongest two loss team regardless of what Ohio State does. The committee the last 3 years has established that they don't give a **** about conference championships.

There's a reason why Notre Dame stayed ahead of Ohio State after getting demolished by Miami, the same week that Ohio State absolutely demolished Michigan State. These rankings are set up for the long term. They'd bulldoze their own mothers house to get Notre Dame in the Final 4.

so you're implying notre dame with two losess and a loss to miami 41-8 ,would get in OVER miami with one loss who as mentioned before, beat ND 41-8?

or is this scenario if bama miami and oklahoma win out, and wisky loses?

even then, CFP committee loves ohio state and they would get in over notre dame 10 times out of 10

My point is that I will not be shocked if Miami loses to Clemson they'll play the "this was a playoff game" horse**** angle and dump Miami below Notre Dame or Ohio State. They've done it before to more deserving teams and they'll do it again.

And yes, if Miami/Bama/Oklahoma win out and Wisky loses Notre Dame is taking that 4th spot. Absolute lock.

The committee has set them up to jump everyone but the Top 3 teams, they take care of business this weekend have the easiest path to the title game of any two loss team unless Wisconsin absolutely gets flattened by Ohio State.

no, not even close

look at the rankings now, it's obvious head to head matters more than anything

auburn > uga > nd

ohio state > penn state


ND has less than 0% chance to get in

The same rankings that has Notre Dame ahead of Ohio State already?

How is this so difficult to see? They're in the prime 2 loss position. They have the best resume of any of the two loss teams. They have the best SOS and SOR of any of the two loss teams. They're the biggest money draw in play.

Auburn and Georgia are both out if they lose to Alabama. There's obviously no way they're putting in a 3 loss Auburn and UGA is one spot ahead of Notre Dame heading into this weekend you think UGA losing to Bama with Notre Dame staying idle will keep them ahead of ND?

This is simple logic.

Clemson, UGA, and ohio st all get in before nd in that Miami, bama, OU win out scenario. I dont think it is even close.

 

[GenericYesMan]

so you're implying notre dame with two losess and a loss to miami 41-8 ,would get in OVER miami with one loss who as mentioned before, beat ND 41-8?

or is this scenario if bama miami and oklahoma win out, and wisky loses?

even then, CFP committee loves ohio state and they would get in over notre dame 10 times out of 10

My point is that I will not be shocked if Miami loses to Clemson they'll play the "this was a playoff game" horse**** angle and dump Miami below Notre Dame or Ohio State. They've done it before to more deserving teams and they'll do it again.

And yes, if Miami/Bama/Oklahoma win out and Wisky loses Notre Dame is taking that 4th spot. Absolute lock.

The committee has set them up to jump everyone but the Top 3 teams, they take care of business this weekend have the easiest path to the title game of any two loss team unless Wisconsin absolutely gets flattened by Ohio State.

no, not even close

look at the rankings now, it's obvious head to head matters more than anything

auburn > uga > nd

ohio state > penn state


ND has less than 0% chance to get in

The same rankings that has Notre Dame ahead of Ohio State already?

How is this so difficult to see? They're in the prime 2 loss position. They have the best resume of any of the two loss teams. They have the best SOS and SOR of any of the two loss teams. They're the biggest money draw in play.

Auburn and Georgia are both out if they lose to Alabama. There's obviously no way they're putting in a 3 loss Auburn and UGA is one spot ahead of Notre Dame heading into this weekend you think UGA losing to Bama with Notre Dame staying idle will keep them ahead of ND?

This is simple logic.

Clemson, UGA, and ohio st all get in before nd in that Miami, bama, OU win out scenario. I dont think it is even close.

Clemson is totally done with a loss to Miami. Georgia is almost certainly done with a loss to Alabama unless they miracle themselves into a close one.

Ohio State's resume vs. Notre Dame's isn't a contest. It basically comes down to whether or not the committee cares about a conference title against Notre Dame's far superior overall body of work.

 

[2FNFST4U]

SEC Champ Auburn or UGA
ACC Champ Clemson or Miami
B12 Champ OU
B10 Champ Undefeated Wisconsin goes in before them

Auburn wins out Clemson already beat them at Auburn. ACC title game is a "neutral site my ***" game A close loss there on normal paper would give us the advantage.

Regardless we need ND and VT to win this weekend. That is our quality wins. Hope Ole **** rises up for the upset and A2M takes down the tigress.

Just F'N win it doesn't matter

We lose we will get the F'd BY THE COMMITTEE

 

[PharmCane305]

E$PN understands the brand of Miami football carries weight across the entire nation more than any team in the country. We blew the ratings out the water in the two primtime games (Vtech, ND). It's well documented the playoffs had pretty **** ratings last year due too it being teams located in the south/Midwest.

Tell me an Alabama v Miami game (barring a loss) wouldn't generate the most revenue since the Playoffs have started. The media can **** on us all they want but at the end of the day money talks.

All of this is hearsay cause we ain't losing, just food for thought.

You started with ESPN, they don't decide the rankings...

The acc has done well the past couple years so I think that history is in our favor.

Not bc it's osu but I really don't wanna see more boring a55 osu and even to an extent Oklahoma (a legit defense of Bama Miami or Clemson would knock that prick of a qb out). It's alrdy shown they can't win the big games.




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[amanan28]

E$PN understands the brand of Miami football carries weight across the entire nation more than any team in the country. We blew the ratings out the water in the two primtime games (Vtech, ND). It's well documented the playoffs had pretty **** ratings last year due too it being teams located in the south/Midwest.

Tell me an Alabama v Miami game (barring a loss) wouldn't generate the most revenue since the Playoffs have started. The media can **** on us all they want but at the end of the day money talks.

All of this is hearsay cause we ain't losing, just food for thought.

You started with ESPN, they don't decide the rankings...

The acc has done well the past couple years so I think that history is in our favor.

Not bc it's osu but I really don't wanna see more boring a55 osu and even to an extent Oklahoma (a legit defense of Bama Miami or Clemson would knock that prick of a qb out). It's alrdy shown they can't win the big games.




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[PharmCane305]

E$PN understands the brand of Miami football carries weight across the entire nation more than any team in the country. We blew the ratings out the water in the two primtime games (Vtech, ND). It's well documented the playoffs had pretty **** ratings last year due too it being teams located in the south/Midwest.

Tell me an Alabama v Miami game (barring a loss) wouldn't generate the most revenue since the Playoffs have started. The media can **** on us all they want but at the end of the day money talks.

All of this is hearsay cause we ain't losing, just food for thought.

You started with ESPN, they don't decide the rankings...

The acc has done well the past couple years so I think that history is in our favor.

Not bc it's osu but I really don't wanna see more boring a55 osu and even to an extent Oklahoma (a legit defense of Bama Miami or Clemson would knock that prick of a qb out). It's alrdy shown they can't win the big games.




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The games are played on ESPN/ABC (ESPN sponsored affiliate)...yes it is all about the ratings/money IMO at least.

We will see I dunno man... This cfb committee to me over analyzes everything and forgets to just get the four best teams on the field. Imo whatever the outcome of. Clemson game I think miami belongs in the top 4. Not being biased but they are undefeated with a solid SOS and SOR in what was considered the past couple years a real good conference.

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