Speculation - Miami makes playoffs regardless of result

[SFbayCane]

1. Miami has to beat Pitt and play Clemson close.
2. Bama has to win out leaving the SEC with only one team in. Auburn wins this weekend and Bama gets in as 11-1.
3. OSU* has to beat WISC. WISC at 13-0 gets in even with that FCS schedule.

It would help if Michigan beat OSU*.

That leaves
13-0 Bama
12-1 Clemson
11-1 Miami
12-1 OU

WSC 12-1
OSU 11-2
USC 11-2
UGA 11-2
PSU 10-2
ND 10-2
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FSU 6-6
UF 4-8

If it plays out the way you have it in bold, we would play Clemson in back to back games. One in Charlotte and one in the Rose Bowl. Its possible, I guess but I cannot see that happening.


I think we're in the Orange Bowl if we lose to Clemson.. Against Wisconsin or UGA... My guess is UGA. Although I think facing the Pac 12 champs would be fun too. (USC -vs- Washington winner).

 

[iLoveTDs]

These kinds of threads just feel like a jinx. I'll discuss all of these options after the Pitt game

 

[JgDaCane]

Reality - Doubtful

Especially with Ohio State and Notre Dame both on the doorstep to sneak into that 4th spot.

ND is as dead as dead can be. 2 loss AND no conference championship.

Notre Dame is 8th right now with a clear as day path to the 4 spot.

Notre Dame beats Stanford
Auburn and Georgia lose to Alabama
Wisconsin loses to Ohio State
One of the two ACC teams loses

Notre Dame backdoors in the #4 spot. Their combined SOS and SOR is the best in the country.

Plus the committee has a track record of putting in the big time money schools.

Do I think they jump a 1 loss Miami? No. Would I be shocked if they did? Not at all.

then that would be Bama, Acc Champ, Ou, Acc loser/Ohio State...ND has a 0% chance. Less then 0% actually.

You can say it all you want, but It's just not true. Notre Dame will be the strongest two loss team regardless of what Ohio State does. The committee the last 3 years has established that they don't give a **** about conference championships.

There's a reason why Notre Dame stayed ahead of Ohio State after getting demolished by Miami, the same week that Ohio State absolutely demolished Michigan State. These rankings are set up for the long term. They'd bulldoze their own mothers house to get Notre Dame in the Final 4.

They don’t have a conference championship. They’re out. Sorry. You’re wrong.

 

[Gatorhater]

The networks want us in, but the humans in college football hate us. We need to storm the gates and win out.

 

[Dghustla]

Since the narrative is OSU is the best 2 loss Team and beating Wisky will cement that. They will be the 1st team in. We need to win. If we loss we are banking on chaos.

 

[Colombie]

I don't want to say regardless of result because nothing is etched in stone. But as I have been saying for the last few months a one loss Miami would bring in better ratings than most other teams. ESPN executives will be in the ears of committee members just like Herbie was last night on National Television.

But it is all moot. I think we beat Clemson.

 

[hanna445]

Beat Pitt, and beat/keep game close with Clemson and we’re good. No way you keep a 1 loss Miami out over 2 loss Notre Dame (we blew them out) or Ohio State (I’m a firm believer you can lose as a playoff team but not get blown out—-OSU got blown out twice).

 

[Colombie]

And in that scenario O$U and the Big 10 can't really make much of a big stink about it since O$U was put into the playoffs last year over a Conference Champion. So turnabout is fair play.

 

[Tetragrammaton Cane]

E$PN understands the brand of Miami football carries weight across the entire nation more than any team in the country. We blew the ratings out the water in the two primtime games (Vtech, ND). It's well documented the playoffs had pretty **** ratings last year due too it being teams located in the south/Midwest.

Tell me an Alabama v Miami game (barring a loss) wouldn't generate the most revenue since the Playoffs have started. The media can **** on us all they want but at the end of the day money talks.

All of this is heresy cause we ain't losing, just food for thought.

FIFY

 

[Tetragrammaton Cane]

1. Miami has to beat Pitt and play Clemson close.
2. Bama has to win out leaving the SEC with only one team in. Auburn wins this weekend and Bama gets in as 11-1.
3. OSU* has to beat WISC. WISC at 13-0 gets in even with that FCS schedule.

It would help if Michigan beat OSU*.

That leaves
13-0 Bama
12-1 Clemson
11-1 Miami
12-1 OU

WSC 12-1
OSU 11-2
USC 11-2
UGA 11-2
PSU 10-2
ND 10-2
.
.
.
.
.
FSU 6-6
UF 4-8

If it plays out the way you have it in bold, we would play Clemson in back to back games. One in Charlotte and one in the Rose Bowl. Its possible, I guess but I cannot see that happening.


I think we're in the Orange Bowl if we lose to Clemson.. Against Wisconsin or UGA... My guess is UGA. Although I think facing the Pac 12 champs would be fun too. (USC -vs- Washington winner).

(Just going by the premise...because Herbstreit was trying to make a case that Oklahoma should be ranked #1 …)
Agreed New Richt School v Old Richt School is too hard for the Orange Bowl to pass up.

Lose to Clemson and the committee has every reason to keep Miami out rather than play back to back conference games on neutral fields.

It’s not optional, Miami has to go 1-0, 2 weeks in a row to make CFP.

 

[Hurricanemike32]

E$PN understands the brand of Miami football carries weight across the entire nation more than any team in the country. We blew the ratings out the water in the two primtime games (Vtech, ND). It's well documented the playoffs had pretty **** ratings last year due too it being teams located in the south/Midwest.

Tell me an Alabama v Miami game (barring a loss) wouldn't generate the most revenue since the Playoffs have started. The media can **** on us all they want but at the end of the day money talks.

All of this is hearsay cause we ain't losing, just food for thought.

Miami has to beat Pitt first. If they lose to Pitt I think they keep us out regardless of what happens in the ACCCG. Should be an easy win but we all know how that has played out this year. Just beat Pitt, head to Charlotte and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[simplycanes]

1) #BeatPitt

2) I continue to believe that Miami vs. Clemson is for the ACC playoff spot, regardless of what this Committee says now. I can't see them putting in two ACC teams that just played a week ago.

 

[costalpilot]

all this whining about money controlling who gets into the final four is just plain stupid. some of you people are just clueless. all the legacy schools are money makers.

im not a fan of committees, but I am a fan of integrity when its called for. there is no incentive for these people to favor one team over another, as a committee. I think they do their job, every year. as best they can.

they are judges. disagree with them all you want. I have. but to attack their integrity as a matter of course without evidence is ignorant, imo.

tosu getting in, as distasteful as it is, is not evidence, btw.

 

[jackedaround]

we must pound pitt. if we dont clemson beating a ranked south carolina team vaults them back into #2 . mark my words.

 

[jackedaround]

if auburn pounds bama by more than 2 tds bama isnt getting in.

 

[GenericYesMan]

ND is as dead as dead can be. 2 loss AND no conference championship.

Notre Dame is 8th right now with a clear as day path to the 4 spot.

Notre Dame beats Stanford
Auburn and Georgia lose to Alabama
Wisconsin loses to Ohio State
One of the two ACC teams loses

Notre Dame backdoors in the #4 spot. Their combined SOS and SOR is the best in the country.

Plus the committee has a track record of putting in the big time money schools.

Do I think they jump a 1 loss Miami? No. Would I be shocked if they did? Not at all.

then that would be Bama, Acc Champ, Ou, Acc loser/Ohio State...ND has a 0% chance. Less then 0% actually.

You can say it all you want, but It's just not true. Notre Dame will be the strongest two loss team regardless of what Ohio State does. The committee the last 3 years has established that they don't give a **** about conference championships.

There's a reason why Notre Dame stayed ahead of Ohio State after getting demolished by Miami, the same week that Ohio State absolutely demolished Michigan State. These rankings are set up for the long term. They'd bulldoze their own mothers house to get Notre Dame in the Final 4.

They don’t have a conference championship. They’re out. Sorry. You’re wrong.

Who won the Big 10 last year?

 

[Colombie]

all this whining about money controlling who gets into the final four is just plain stupid. some of you people are just clueless. all the legacy schools are money makers.

im not a fan of committees, but I am a fan of integrity when its called for. there is no incentive for these people to favor one team over another, as a committee. I think they do their job, every year. as best they can.

they are judges. disagree with them all you want. I have. but to attack their integrity as a matter of course without evidence is ignorant, imo.

tosu getting in, as distasteful as it is, is not evidence, btw.

I believe they will try their best to adhere to the criteria they have put forth and have integrity you are referring to in your post.

However make no mistake about it, these people are humans and a process like this is more a political process than a process of purity and integrity.
These humans behind closed doors are having conversations and are being lobbied by people associated with the Network that televises and funds this playoff with Network money.

When it comes to to subjectivity and scenarios where they must arbitrarily figure out how to separate teams every little detail counts. They may frame it in a different way like they want to get different regions and markets represented but it would be a bit naive to think that the bottom line is not a factor that can be considered in a situation like this.

 

[ShadowSpring]

If I was an outside fan, I'd want another team in rather than a rematch. That's been my position whenever these rematch scenarios are discussed. I don't see it happening.

Be undefeated ACC champs and we are in it to win it.

 

[JgDaCane]

Notre Dame is 8th right now with a clear as day path to the 4 spot.

Notre Dame beats Stanford
Auburn and Georgia lose to Alabama
Wisconsin loses to Ohio State
One of the two ACC teams loses

Notre Dame backdoors in the #4 spot. Their combined SOS and SOR is the best in the country.

Plus the committee has a track record of putting in the big time money schools.

Do I think they jump a 1 loss Miami? No. Would I be shocked if they did? Not at all.

then that would be Bama, Acc Champ, Ou, Acc loser/Ohio State...ND has a 0% chance. Less then 0% actually.

You can say it all you want, but It's just not true. Notre Dame will be the strongest two loss team regardless of what Ohio State does. The committee the last 3 years has established that they don't give a **** about conference championships.

There's a reason why Notre Dame stayed ahead of Ohio State after getting demolished by Miami, the same week that Ohio State absolutely demolished Michigan State. These rankings are set up for the long term. They'd bulldoze their own mothers house to get Notre Dame in the Final 4.

They don’t have a conference championship. They’re out. Sorry. You’re wrong.

Who won the Big 10 last year?

Penn State who had 2 losses. Ohio State got in because they had 1 loss. ND is a 2 loss (at best) non-conf champ. They’re 2000% dead.

 

[GenericYesMan]

then that would be Bama, Acc Champ, Ou, Acc loser/Ohio State...ND has a 0% chance. Less then 0% actually.

You can say it all you want, but It's just not true. Notre Dame will be the strongest two loss team regardless of what Ohio State does. The committee the last 3 years has established that they don't give a **** about conference championships.

There's a reason why Notre Dame stayed ahead of Ohio State after getting demolished by Miami, the same week that Ohio State absolutely demolished Michigan State. These rankings are set up for the long term. They'd bulldoze their own mothers house to get Notre Dame in the Final 4.

They don’t have a conference championship. They’re out. Sorry. You’re wrong.

Who won the Big 10 last year?

Penn State who had 2 losses. Ohio State got in because they had 1 loss. ND is a 2 loss (at best) non-conf champ. They’re 2000% dead.

But wait, I thought you said you said you can't get in without a conference championship.

Seems like you don't know how this whole process works. Try harder.