South Florida talent on display in bowls

[User-4525]

What does it being closer to sec schools have to do with anything?

The reason South Florida is so important to Miami is because Miami is in South Florida. We have the most information on the players and a natural recruiting advantage. We can't mine three stars in Metro Atlanta the same way.

Moreover, location was the primary reason we landed Duke Johnson, Chad Thomas, and countless other miami athletes before them. Location was a primary factor why Howard was able to build this thing up.

 

[User-4525]

I get it that we missed on some recruits, but these guys ended up at South Florida and Western Kentucky. Plenty of kids have gone on to win on the big stage at places like Clemson and Alabama. Those are misses. It's not a miss when no one else in the Power 5 wanted you either.

The only guys that I thought were misses were Nichols (he is better than Mayes) and Flowers, who would've been a dynamite safety here (or, at the least, better than Rosier). Hoggins was a miss because we could've had a package deal with him, SBB and Calvin Ridley.

Just spotlighting the depth of talent from this area.

And if he took Nichols and let Mayes go elsewhere we would be sitting here talking about how Mayes is the better player. The problem here was talent. It was coaching. We haven't developed a kid in over a decade. Everyone seems to only make it on their own talent.

No, we wouldn't. Anyway, we took Mayes and Dennis Turner over Juwan dowels and Quincy Wilson. Do those guys keep al golden from getting fired? No. Do they add more depth and help us in the future, if we had them, yes. There are a staggering high amount of kids that should not be sniffing a Miami roster. The best developers could not turn them into serviceable guys. That is strictly because of evaluations.

It isn't a hard concept to seperate evaluations from coaching. Everyone knows the coaching sucks, but the evaluations play a pivotal role in college football. Butch Davis' gameday flaws were hashed countless times on this board, but posters still wanted him because he was one of, if not the, best evaluators to lace em up.

Our talent level wasn't low enough to make excuses for not winning the ACC or the coastal, but our roster was far away from a playoff contender.

 

[StPeteCane]

Fun game to watch

 

[nbrewer22]

So there is 171 players currently in the NFL from the state of Florida, and 122 of them are from South Florida? Are you just considering Dade, Broward and Palm Beach, or is there more to South Florida?

The numbers are from Jamie Newberg's study last year. He had 252 players from Florida and 122 from those three counties.

I did a quick search just to see how many players were in the NFL from Florida, and that's what pro-football reference listed for 2015. However I find it hard to believe that there is that many fewer this year so maybe I looked it up wrong. Still impressive nonetheless.

 

[AUcane]

I get it that we missed on some recruits, but these guys ended up at South Florida and Western Kentucky. Plenty of kids have gone on to win on the big stage at places like Clemson and Alabama. Those are misses. It's not a miss when no one else in the Power 5 wanted you either.

The only guys that I thought were misses were Nichols (he is better than Mayes) and Flowers, who would've been a dynamite safety here (or, at the least, better than Rosier). Hoggins was a miss because we could've had a package deal with him, SBB and Calvin Ridley.

Just spotlighting the depth of talent from this area.

Cmon, D, not even a guy like Hoggins could have overpowered SEC bagmen.

 

[DMoney]

I get it that we missed on some recruits, but these guys ended up at South Florida and Western Kentucky. Plenty of kids have gone on to win on the big stage at places like Clemson and Alabama. Those are misses. It's not a miss when no one else in the Power 5 wanted you either.

The only guys that I thought were misses were Nichols (he is better than Mayes) and Flowers, who would've been a dynamite safety here (or, at the least, better than Rosier). Hoggins was a miss because we could've had a package deal with him, SBB and Calvin Ridley.

Just spotlighting the depth of talent from this area.

Cmon, D, not even a guy like Hoggins could have overpowered SEC bagmen.

Just repeating what a UM guy told me. He was ****ed we didn't pull the trigger and felt Hoggins was good enough to help us (or at least could've been dropped if Ridley and SBB went Bama).

 

[FullyERicht]

It's why you jacked off hard to Charlie Strong, b/c he beat up on some horrible conference with 2nd rate South Florida kids.

Didn't your screen name used to be GoldenShowers? And you're accusing me of jacking off to a coach?

Yes. Just like everyone else here, I got behind the coach we hired. I did it for Randy and Coker and Butch and I'm doing it for Richt.

What I haven't done, however, is promoted a guy who lost 8 games in his second season at Texas.

 

[gogeta4]

lived in Metro Atlanta...and from South florida...

dont even argue the difference in high schol football or talent...its totally different breed here...

did u watch this year our teams all went to metro atlanta and ran a clean sweep.

Georgia and the metro atlanta is an area i would hit every year...but slow it down on comparing it to south florida....not close.

major recruits from here take a back seat to no one......Perfect example...BAMA is considered the best of the best....Any kid they get from down here...goes up there and starts....guys like Eddie Jackson (A kdi that is probably forgotten somewhat ins outh florida)..Calvin Ridley a kid that wasnt even considered the best prospect on his team..doesnt matter..Goes there and takes positions...

 

[Coach Macho]

SMH @ anybody who doesn't think recruiting was a huge problem during the Golden era. Dude had no ability to evaluate the South FLA athlete. They were ignoring kids who were All State and offering kids who looked good running around in shorts at one of their camps.

Fvckin' guys were clueless.

 

[San Amaro Dr]

SMH @ anybody who doesn't think recruiting was a huge problem during the Golden era. Dude had no ability to evaluate the South FLA athlete. They were ignoring kids who were All State and offering kids who looked good running around in shorts at one of their camps.

Fvckin' guys were clueless.

It almost seemed like they were so used to recruiting under the radar kids that they didn't see the obvious talent. Trying to be the smartest guys in the room cost them their jobs.

 

[Miacanes5]

I get it that we missed on some recruits, but these guys ended up at South Florida and Western Kentucky. Plenty of kids have gone on to win on the big stage at places like Clemson and Alabama. Those are misses. It's not a miss when no one else in the Power 5 wanted you either.

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That's bull****....that's like saying, "oh nobody else got the question right on the test either". These guys play in your ******* area code, you should have the best evaluations on them. You should find the less exposed kids

 

[DMoney]

In thirty minutes (noon), check out Western Michigan junior receiver Daniel Braverman in the Bahamas Bowl. Wide receiver out of University School who put up 103 catches, 1,266 yards and 12 TDs as a junior. High school teammate of Macgarrett Kings, who is a starting WR for Michigan State.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrD7L2u__A

 

[User-4525]

U school had an unreal wr core with braverman, Cunningham, and kings. Funny how the most hyped one has done the least in college

 

[demcanes26]

Great football is played in areas other than south Florida.

Yes, but the best football is played in South Florida. And South Florida happens to be where our school is located. That's why South Florida is so relevant to this program.

I focus so much on South Florida three stars because they are automatic gets for Miami. Our poor depth directly correlates to our inability to sign underrated local talent.

Metro Atlanta is a strong area but (1) it's closer to the SEC schools than it is to Miami; and (2) it isn't producing stars. Aside from Cam Newton and Eric Berry, how many major impact players have come out of there recently? Last year alone, there were five Pro Bowlers from South Florida. None were from Metro Atlanta.

What does it being closer to sec schools have to do with anything? It's 2015, schools have private jets now to recruit from anywhere...Again a bunch of Miami's best players EVER have come from out state so it's naive to think so short sided. You can't just win with south Florida talent. Take off kaaya, AQM, njoku and corn elder what would this team be with out them? Miami needs to keep adding elite talent everywhere else like ga, Cali, La, jersey to go along with our main base of talent( south Florida)

Why does it mean anything. There are 7 schools closer to Atlanta, than the closest p5 school Is to Miami (Florida). You have Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn, South Carolina, Clemson, FSU and Florida. With that much competition, you should expect even the elite to not sign with Georgia.

 

[BoxingRobes]

Daniel Braverman is going to be a pro. Nice little slot receiver. Belichick special.

No one would have ever said we should have taken a Braverman over say, a Braxton Barrios, but Braverman is a much better, much more polished wide out that does a lot of the same things we asked of Barrios.

 

[gogeta4]

U school had an unreal wr core with braverman, Cunningham, and kings. Funny how the most hyped one has done the least in college

sam bruce was a youngster there too ...maybe in 8th grade then. Some other kids that are currently playing div 1 ball as well. Think a kid at DUKE

 

[DMoney]

Braverman just took it 69 yards for a TD.

 

[SpikeUM]

Braverman just took it 69 yards for a TD.

Mazel tov!

 

[GlassHalfFull Guy]

Nichols was easily a Power 5 player, he went under the radar because he committed to USF early because of Telly Lockette while he was at USF.

You could have asked anyone in Dade county that year, Nichols was by far the best corner. Better than Lammons, Wilson etc. I specifically remember asking him about Miami at the media day that year and he said they weren't in touch.

The point D-Money is making is these are talented local players that would make the upcoming defense much more lethal. Instead you have Ryan Mayes, a guy who hasn't gotten good reps looking to be a prime part of the secondary next season. Would you really rather work with Mayes, or the All-AAC corner.

 

[GlassHalfFull Guy]

I get it that we missed on some recruits, but these guys ended up at South Florida and Western Kentucky. Plenty of kids have gone on to win on the big stage at places like Clemson and Alabama. Those are misses. It's not a miss when no one else in the Power 5 wanted you either.

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That's bull****....that's like saying, "oh nobody else got the question right on the test either". These guys play in your ******* area code, you should have the best evaluations on them. You should find the less exposed kids

exactly