South Florida talent on display in bowls

[INCaneFan]

I get it that we missed on some recruits, but these guys ended up at South Florida and Western Kentucky. Plenty of kids have gone on to win on the big stage at places like Clemson and Alabama. Those are misses. It's not a miss when no one else in the Power 5 wanted you either.

Nor is it necessarily a miss when said recruit is playing on some middling team against middling competition. Someone has to make plays at that level and just because they can there doesn't necessarily mean they would at a BCS conference level.

 

[DMoney]

Great football is played in areas other than south Florida.

Yes, but the best football is played in South Florida. And South Florida happens to be where our school is located. That's why South Florida is so relevant to this program.

I focus so much on South Florida three stars because they are automatic gets for Miami. Our poor depth directly correlates to our inability to sign underrated local talent.

Metro Atlanta is a strong area but (1) it's closer to the SEC schools than it is to Miami; and (2) it isn't producing stars. Aside from Cam Newton and Eric Berry, how many major impact players have come out of there recently? Last year alone, there were five Pro Bowlers from South Florida. None were from Metro Atlanta.

 

[ChrisLamar757]

Right, it's just when you do that, the mopes get suicidal and act like we lost someone who would have flipped the score of the Clemson game. There was waaaaaaay too much wrong with our program to worry about missing out on some Sun Belt players. If we get those guys, we lose to Clemson 49-6 instead of 58-0.

It's all part of the problem. We lost out on South Florida superstars like Cook, Collins, Ridley and Kirkland. We also lost out on quality depth behind those guys.

Basically.

All these things do is highlight a fundamental misphilosophy in recruiting practices for Miami. While players like the ones mentioned may not have been immediate, program changing stars, they're proven productive players that could add quality depth and competition and fanfare from the community. They could be allowed to grow and develop within the program. It's only made to be more frustrating when you see Miami go out of the area to get players that are comparable to players locally or they zero in on the players locally that aren't as good.

 

[DMoney]

Another word on Metro Atlanta vs. South Florida.

Both areas have roughly the same population (Metro Atlanta is slightly bigger). But as of 2014, South Florida had 122 NFL players. Metro Atlanta had 70. It's just different down here.

 

[dedostheibis]

Western Michigan

 

[brock]

Great football is played in areas other than south Florida.

Yes, but the best football is played in South Florida. And South Florida happens to be where our school is located. That's why South Florida is so relevant to this program.

I focus so much on South Florida three stars because they are automatic gets for Miami. Our poor depth directly correlates to our inability to sign underrated local talent.

Metro Atlanta is a strong area but (1) it's closer to the SEC schools than it is to Miami; and (2) it isn't producing stars. Aside from Cam Newton and Eric Berry, how many major impact players have come out of there recently? Last year alone, there were five Pro Bowlers from South Florida. None were from Metro Atlanta.

What does it being closer to sec schools have to do with anything? It's 2015, schools have private jets now to recruit from anywhere...Again a bunch of Miami's best players EVER have come from out state so it's naive to think so short sided. You can't just win with south Florida talent. Take off kaaya, AQM, njoku and corn elder what would this team be with out them? Miami needs to keep adding elite talent everywhere else like ga, Cali, La, jersey to go along with our main base of talent( south Florida)

 

[brock]

Another word on Metro Atlanta vs. South Florida.

Both areas have roughly the same population (Metro Atlanta is slightly bigger). But as of 2014, South Florida had 122 NFL players. Metro Atlanta had 70. It's just different down here.

have you seen the top level recruits coming out of the state of Georgia lately? It's the most talented state behind fla.

 

[DMoney]

What does it being closer to sec schools have to do with anything?

The reason South Florida is so important to Miami is because Miami is in South Florida. We have the most information on the players and a natural recruiting advantage. We can't mine three stars in Metro Atlanta the same way.

 

[brock]

What does it being closer to sec schools have to do with anything?

The reason South Florida is so important to Miami is because Miami is in South Florida. We have the most information on the players and a natural recruiting advantage. We can't mine three stars in Metro Atlanta the same way.

Not saying to mine 3 stars from ga but we need to get some of the elite players from there. Like Florida the state produces a bunch of top level athletes, they all can't go to Uga so they go to auburn, bama, osu, Clemson, South Carolina and other schools.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

While players like the ones mentioned may not have been immediate, program changing stars, they're proven productive players that could add quality depth and competition and fanfare from the community. They could be allowed to grow and develop within the program.

Maybe that's exactly why they go to places like USF and Western Kentucky. They can go and play instead of serving as career backups. Like someone said earlier......just because they're making some plays against North Texas doesn't mean they would have had any impact at Miami.

 

[DMoney]

What does it being closer to sec schools have to do with anything?

The reason South Florida is so important to Miami is because Miami is in South Florida. We have the most information on the players and a natural recruiting advantage. We can't mine three stars in Metro Atlanta the same way.

Not saying to mine 3 stars from ga but we need to get some of the elite players from there. Like Florida the state produces a bunch of top level athletes, they all can't go to Uga so they go to auburn, bama, osu, Clemson, South Carolina and other schools.

I agree. My thing is, don't leave South Florida unless you are getting freaks. I like the Juwon Young take, for example, because he has a rare combo of size and speed.

 

[brock]

What does it being closer to sec schools have to do with anything?

The reason South Florida is so important to Miami is because Miami is in South Florida. We have the most information on the players and a natural recruiting advantage. We can't mine three stars in Metro Atlanta the same way.

Not saying to mine 3 stars from ga but we need to get some of the elite players from there. Like Florida the state produces a bunch of top level athletes, they all can't go to Uga so they go to auburn, bama, osu, Clemson, South Carolina and other schools.

I agree. My thing is, don't leave South Florida unless you are getting freaks. I like the Juwon Young take, for example, because he has a rare combo of size and speed.

True, I don't think this last staff hit Georgia hard enough though, a lot of kids like Miami in Georgia

 

[ChrisLamar757]

While players like the ones mentioned may not have been immediate, program changing stars, they're proven productive players that could add quality depth and competition and fanfare from the community. They could be allowed to grow and develop within the program.

Maybe that's exactly why they go to places like USF and Western Kentucky. They can go and play instead of serving as career backups. Like someone said earlier......just because they're making some plays against North Texas doesn't mean they would have had any impact at Miami.

But there's nothing that says they're destined to be career backups necessarily, especially lately.

Part of the issue is many prospect's recognition that Miami playing style and philosophies may not serve to accent the best of their natural abilities.

 

[bolivar]

I get it that we missed on some recruits, but these guys ended up at South Florida and Western Kentucky. Plenty of kids have gone on to win on the big stage at places like Clemson and Alabama. Those are misses. It's not a miss when no one else in the Power 5 wanted you either.

The only guys that I thought were misses were Nichols (he is better than Mayes) and Flowers, who would've been a dynamite safety here (or, at the least, better than Rosier). Hoggins was a miss because we could've had a package deal with him, SBB and Calvin Ridley.

Just spotlighting the depth of talent from this area.

Just curious....why didn't Hoggins go to Bama with SBB and Ridley?

They didn't offer him. One of the perks of being on top. We were forced to get creative and we didn't do it.

Makes sense.....thanks for the response..

 

[moshated305]

I get it that we missed on some recruits, but these guys ended up at South Florida and Western Kentucky. Plenty of kids have gone on to win on the big stage at places like Clemson and Alabama. Those are misses. It's not a miss when no one else in the Power 5 wanted you either.

The only guys that I thought were misses were Nichols (he is better than Mayes) and Flowers, who would've been a dynamite safety here (or, at the least, better than Rosier). Hoggins was a miss because we could've had a package deal with him, SBB and Calvin Ridley.

Just spotlighting the depth of talent from this area.

And if he took Nichols and let Mayes go elsewhere we would be sitting here talking about how Mayes is the better player. The problem here was talent. It was coaching. We haven't developed a kid in over a decade. Everyone seems to only make it on their own talent.

 

[FullyERicht]

Great football is played in areas other than south Florida.

Yes, but the best football is played in South Florida. And South Florida happens to be where our school is located. That's why South Florida is so relevant to this program.

I focus so much on South Florida three stars because they are automatic gets for Miami. Our poor depth directly correlates to our inability to sign underrated local talent.

Metro Atlanta is a strong area but (1) it's closer to the SEC schools than it is to Miami; and (2) it isn't producing stars. Aside from Cam Newton and Eric Berry, how many major impact players have come out of there recently? Last year alone, there were five Pro Bowlers from South Florida. None were from Metro Atlanta.

Our problem the last 15 years was coaching. You get so caught up in the minute details like some hidden gem we might have missed, and think that that is somehow what was missing here. It's why you jacked off hard to Charlie Strong, b/c he beat up on some horrible conference with 2nd rate South Florida kids.

Recruiting, diamond in the roughs, connection with South Florida....ALL superfluous BS to the main problem which is you had horrible HCs, horrible coordinators, and amateur staff for over a decade.

 

[nbrewer22]

Another word on Metro Atlanta vs. South Florida.

Both areas have roughly the same population (Metro Atlanta is slightly bigger). But as of 2014, South Florida had 122 NFL players. Metro Atlanta had 70. It's just different down here.

So there is 171 players currently in the NFL from the state of Florida, and 122 of them are from South Florida? Are you just considering Dade, Broward and Palm Beach, or is there more to South Florida?

 

[micmeistr8]

Never have a problem taking a risk on athletic under the radar South Florida kids. Rather have those guys as your fillers than the Jersey kids.

 

[DMoney]

It's why you jacked off hard to Charlie Strong, b/c he beat up on some horrible conference with 2nd rate South Florida kids.

Didn't your screen name used to be GoldenShowers? And you're accusing me of jacking off to a coach?

 

[DMoney]

So there is 171 players currently in the NFL from the state of Florida, and 122 of them are from South Florida? Are you just considering Dade, Broward and Palm Beach, or is there more to South Florida?

The numbers are from Jamie Newberg's study last year. He had 252 players from Florida and 122 from those three counties.