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rjustilien1 said:
It's funny becuase i graduated from Hallandale still go to thier games I never see Miami coaches at the games but I've seen Mucschamp, T-Rob, Auburn coach before Malzahn, Guys from Fisher's staff recruiting guys from Hallandale and other schools in the area. That has to change now! Losing too many local studs to schools out of state
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Exactly! LOL

How bad is that?

Hallandale is loaded!
 
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There are so many kids down here, how can you be first on every one? It's simply not possible. Hammond might not be a take or as high on their board.
 
So just throw out an offer because the kid is talented? Bad business. I'm not saying everything or how the U recruits is great. I actually feel they can do a better job. But I say that from the outside. I really have no idea how they recruit or what they do. I will offer my opinion and that is I would rather them do some homework and miss out on some kids then take some kid because he's local and get a **** that doesn't pan out.
Seems like they may be changing their tactics anyway. Just look at the 2016 commit list.
 
For those on the Miami should offer all the "local studs" first train, answer this question/hypothetical:

I believe we have roughly 200 kids on average that sign D1 scholarships from the tri-county area. Throwing out half of that number due to them not being good enough for Miami, grades or available scholarships at their position, that still leaves 100 kids from South Florida. If we offered all of those kids based on either what guys like Hammond are saying or some on this board, that means we would literally have the class full a year in advance, since "if they got that offer first, they would be all Miami."

Now the problem, what if you like a kid better from somewhere else in the state? What is you like an OOS kid better (since even on the greatest team of all time, I believe 25-35% was OOS)? What do you about late bloomers? What if the South Florida class is not particularly good at the position? Do you wait on the kids who want to make the announcement on NSD? Are you willing to burn bridges pulling a scholly from one local guy, when a better local player wants it?

I understand everyone wants to say there is no reason we should be late to the show on the offer vs. other schools, but this thinking is eschew. We should NEVER be late on opening communication to a kid (and yes here we should be first), but offers need to be managed. If a kid can't respect you when you are shooting straight with them, then frankly that kid is probably not the best kid to have be a part of your team. That doesn't mean you don't show the kid "love" to make him feel wanted, it just means you don't let an immature 16-yr old have you by the balls. Also, given the number of guys with SFLA ties now on collage coaching staffs (something that has greatly increased in the past 10 yrs) fans need to realize we no longer are the only ones in the know early about a local stud (big program recruiting budgets also even the playing field).

We have MORE to lose than other schools who can come in here and throw around an offer. Some HS doesn't like how LSU or Bama treated a kid, no biggie to those programs since they are only trying to cherry pick a couple guys. They can move on to the next HS. But since we have to LIVE here, you have to be careful to not burn bridges either.

Recruiting has become a catch-22 for Miami, but to look at this only from the kid's point of view is shortsighted. This board thrives on its connection to local kids, coaches, etc. but IMO there are two-sides to this coin
 
I believe what Hammond is also saying is that Miami coaches aren't even contacting these kids there are no relationships...some studs in South Florida got offered on NSD. It bothers fans when local kids get overlooked but we go to New Jersey to go recruit that just doesn't make sense. Good enough for OSU, FSU Auburn, Bama and UGA but not for a 6 win Miami team thats down the street. Yea we won't get all the kids from South Florida but we need to identify these players first and start building relationships with payers and coaches early in the process.
 
South Florida is full of divas. Hammond's thought process is whats wrong with recruiting. I think the coaching staff has done a much better job getting on these kids earlier. If an offer 12 plus months before signing day isnt good enough then i dont know. We supposed to offer every kid whos talented, their freshman year? Its a joke, these So Fl players are like females, always in their feelings.
 
Don't know what it'll be like that now that brennan is gone but I sent him info on several players from my area. Two that I coached and one other I knew very well. Two of the three are / were 4 star players. One plays Safety for UT now and the other 4 star is a QB being recruited by UT & Notre Dame.

Not even a return email. As a coach that starts to **** you off after a while.
 
Cash said:
Don't know what it'll be like that now that brennan is gone but I sent him info on several players from my area. Two that I coached and one other I knew very well. Two of the three are / were 4 star players. One plays Safety for UT now and the other 4 star is a QB being recruited by UT & Notre Dame.

Not even a return email. As a coach that starts to **** you off after a while.
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They've got to do better!!!!!
 
The teams that are just "coming down here and throwing out offers" seem to be doing pretty well with our local kids.

And most of these schools have a pretty decent track record for developing players. They're successful programs.

Urban Meyer didn't need to see any more of Hammond to warrant an offer but Al Golden did? LOL

I've seen this process go down multiple times...FROM A LOCAL COACH'S PERSPECTIVE...but I'll let you guys believe what you want.
 
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Cash said:
Don't know what it'll be like that now that brennan is gone but I sent him info on several players from my area. Two that I coached and one other I knew very well. Two of the three are / were 4 star players. One plays Safety for UT now and the other 4 star is a QB being recruited by UT & Notre Dame.

Not even a return email. As a coach that starts to **** you off after a while.
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Exactly.
 
Hammond is not a take, he is the same WR mold as Pie Young, Mullins, and bruce.... im not takin him over them.... he probably goin to UF following his brother. .... 11 of our 18 commits are from So fla, and none are OOS... so how are we not gettin in on kids early this year??.... please, dnt worry KB goin to get this thing right
 
The slurps will keep making excuses and blame the kids. You are 1/2hour from this kids school. If you don't offer him fine ,but offer after schools who are thousand of miles away. No way and that is what is unacceptable and some of you dont seem to get it. You hit every single school in the tri county, every single one. Not some when they have a good prospect. Point blank period.
 
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Anyone want to temper their enthusiasm about the effect of Billy Cohen's sequel now ? All that stuff (and especially his spin on it) gets more and more irrelevant by the day.
 
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If you're the University of Miami you should have the jump on any prospect from a loaded school. If the kid plays at Central, Booker, Northwestern, Saint Thomas, Monarch, Miramar, American Heritage or Hallandale you should be able to recruit him before anybody. You should assume that EVERY YEAR those schools have guys that can play for you. While you FREQUENT those schools you do some fine combing at some of the other local schools. Ely, Boyd Anderson, Flanagan, Cardinal Gibbons, etc. If you have your ear in the streets and you have the admiration of local coaches then you can find some studs at less heralded schools that have begun to receive interest from D1 programs. Every now and then you'll find a kid at Piper High or Western High.
 
Ask Hammond to commit to lsu right now....he will see the definition of slow play.

Urb can offer as he had the kids brother, but he doesn't deserve an offer from us now.
Certain guys warrant slow play or spring evals. Not taking up for al but is ain't offering up everybody.
Like Luke saying we should offer "his linebacker", who is headed to uf, when we got some stone cold savages committed at line backer right now doesn't even make sense.

Unless your an ELITE talent you don't deserve an offer at this point. You should have contact but an eval is needed.

My problem is al doesn't keep "contact", or certain kids who are less heralded get offered at his camp where they are the tallest midget. Kids like Fenton, Skai Moore fall through the crack and they are definite studs, but we chase others in search of something that's in their face.
 
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this let's me know how uninvolved we are in the community. This staff is not noticing or reaching out to kids playing youth football; they're not noticing or offering freshmans, they're noticing freaking Jrs and Srs. By that time, it's too late. OSU has already swooped in. Bama has already swooped in...and you know UF and FSU has already swooped in. How does a kid grow up rooting for the Canes, then all of a sudden, when they hit high school, they become pro-FSU or pro-UF? B/c they're staff reach out to them early. Meanwhile, our staff is too busy sitting back on their hands looking at players from Maryland, NJ, and Washington DC. We hear about LSU offering kids as incoming high school freshmans all the time in their own back yard. Us? Total opposite...hence the fence is broken completely.
 
gogeta4 said:
Ask Hammond to commit to lsu right now....he will see the definition of slow play.

Urb can offer as he had the kids brother, but he doesn't deserve an offer from us now.
Certain guys warrant slow play or spring evals. Not taking up for al but is ain't offering up everybody.
Like Luke saying we should offer "his linebacker", who is headed to uf, when we got some stone cold savages committed at line backer right now doesn't even make sense.

Unless your an ELITE talent you don't deserve an offer at this point. You should have contact but an eval is needed.

My problem is al doesn't keep "contact", or certain kids who are less heralded get offered at his camp where they are the tallest midget. Kids like Fenton, Skai Moore fall through the crack and they are definite studs, but we chase others in search of something that's in their face.
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Spot on.
 
The thing is that if you are going to see the 2015 guys last year, you should already have a leg up on the good kids for 2016 and beyond.
 
So, does Hammonds speak for all south florida recruits, or just the ones who didn't get offered 730 days before NSD? Lol
I think the kid knows he's not coming to the []_[] and just taking a shot at the coaches..he's just repeating the things he probably hear from other salty south Florida players and coaches. Lol...Swag16
 
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