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P-Tizzle said:
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
I reread the genesis of this back and forth. I was respectful with my first comment (that included stats). You then started with the silliness. Not me - you. I’ve seen you pull the same exact routine with plenty of others on here and this time I pushed back. Clearly you didn’t like it - and you shouldn’t. How about you stop with the your nonsense and spend a moment in self-reflection?

You made some good points on this site, but the manner in which you attack fellow fans dilutes the validity of the (good) you bring to the site.

And yes, I spend some time in introspection on a regular basis. It’s how we grow.
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I'm asking you to go back through our thread of replies and point out who was the first one that was disrespectful? Who was the first one, between you and I, to insult the other person, etc.
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“Who gives a **** about my commentary? No one should.”

That was the beginning of it. It went downhill from there.

Bless your heart
 
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
You’ll make an excellent ex-husband someday.
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P-Tizzle said:
Who gives a **** about my commentary? No one should.

The argument from the OP: Eddie Brown is on the Mount Rushmore of Miami WRs. And I disagree.

Michael Irvin
Malachi Toney
Santana Moss
Andre Johnson.

Who are you taking off for Eddie Brown?
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Toney aint there yet....good list but Toney has 1 year. Eddie Brown was b4 my time, so i can't comment on him. The list is spot on with the other 3, i'll add Yatil Green just based off what happened at UM.
 
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
Bro, you're wrong on this one. Don't want Eddie on your Mount Rushmore? Ok, I guess. However, when you say "Eddie Brown isn't above any of those for that Mt. Rushmore of WRs," you're just wrong.

Eddie played in a different era, as was already mentioned, but still put up some really super numbers.
In two seasons...
89 catches, 1754 yards, 14 TD, 19.7 YPC

For perspective, here are the two best seasons (and I cheated and counted more than two seasons - I cherry picked the high numbers so that they might have better numbers than if I just stuck with the same two seasons) from the other guys:

Michael Irvin: 99 catches, 1708 yards, 20 TD, 17.2 YPC
Andre Johnson: 89 catches, 1774 yards, 19 TD, 19.9 YPC
Reggie Wayne: 91 catches, 1395 yards, 14 TD, 15.3 YPC
X: 154 catches, 2219 yards, 17 TD, 14.4 YPC
Santana Moss: 99 catches, 1647 yards, 14 TD, 16.6 YPC
Malachi: GOD STATUS

Aside from X, all were first rounders.

You said Eddie wasn't a superstar. Subjectivity to the side, his All-American award and first round selection suggest otherwise. He had a pretty good pro career too. He won the Offensive rookie of the year his first season and was in a pro bowl later on. He did NOT put up the production in the pros that Irvin, Johnson, and Wayne did, but he also wasn't a slug. If you're including pro production in there, different story..... but you can wipe X off that list (and Malachi temporarily) if you're including pro production.

And yes, I'm Eddie's dad.
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klineski96 said:
I turn 47 tomorrow, so I was only 4 & 5 years old when Eddie Brown was at Miami. My point being I was too young to watch him play at Miami.

According to this list, he's 14th on the all time list of total receiving yards at Miami. 1 yard ahead of Clive Walford.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/miami-fl/receiving.html

But one of the 4 best WR's ever at Miami?
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Eddie compiled those stats in two seasons. Also, aside from Irvin, all the others in front of him are from the new era. If you’re curious, dig a little deeper and look at the individual seasons.
 
k9cane said:
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
Bro, you're wrong on this one. Don't want Eddie on your Mount Rushmore? Ok, I guess. However, when you say "Eddie Brown isn't above any of those for that Mt. Rushmore of WRs," you're just wrong.

Eddie played in a different era, as was already mentioned, but still put up some really super numbers.
In two seasons...
89 catches, 1754 yards, 14 TD, 19.7 YPC

For perspective, here are the two best seasons (and I cheated and counted more than two seasons - I cherry picked the high numbers so that they might have better numbers than if I just stuck with the same two seasons) from the other guys:

Michael Irvin: 99 catches, 1708 yards, 20 TD, 17.2 YPC
Andre Johnson: 89 catches, 1774 yards, 19 TD, 19.9 YPC
Reggie Wayne: 91 catches, 1395 yards, 14 TD, 15.3 YPC
X: 154 catches, 2219 yards, 17 TD, 14.4 YPC
Santana Moss: 99 catches, 1647 yards, 14 TD, 16.6 YPC
Malachi: GOD STATUS

Aside from X, all were first rounders.

You said Eddie wasn't a superstar. Subjectivity to the side, his All-American award and first round selection suggest otherwise. He had a pretty good pro career too. He won the Offensive rookie of the year his first season and was in a pro bowl later on. He did NOT put up the production in the pros that Irvin, Johnson, and Wayne did, but he also wasn't a slug. If you're including pro production in there, different story..... but you can wipe X off that list (and Malachi temporarily) if you're including pro production.

And yes, I'm Eddie's dad.
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I’m not actually Eddie’s dad 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
klineski96 said:
I turn 47 tomorrow, so I was only 4 & 5 years old when Eddie Brown was at Miami. My point being I was too young to watch him play at Miami.

According to this list, he's 14th on the all time list of total receiving yards at Miami. 1 yard ahead of Clive Walford.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/miami-fl/receiving.html

But one of the 4 best WR's ever at Miami?
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Eddie played 2years. Allen Hurns is likely above him in stats, and the receiver from Aquinas, Hankerson, but they were 4/5year guys.
 
klineski96 said:
I turn 47 tomorrow, so I was only 4 & 5 years old when Eddie Brown was at Miami. My point being I was too young to watch him play at Miami.

According to this list, he's 14th on the all time list of total receiving yards at Miami. 1 yard ahead of Clive Walford.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/miami-fl/receiving.html

But one of the 4 best WR's ever at Miami?
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Consensus All American in ‘84 and left as Miami’s all time leading receiver in yards, receptions and TD’s. First round pick -13th overall by the Bengals - in ‘85 and NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year. I saw him play and he was right up there with any Miami great.
 
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UM Mount Rushmore WRs:

Michael Irvin
Santana Moss
Andre Johnson
Malachi Toney

The ole timers of CIS object to Toney's inclusion because he's only played one season at Miami. Perfectly good reason but still incorrect.

Eddie Brown, in his freshman year, was a big play threat. He averaged 21 yards per reception. That's amazing. But he only had 600 yards receiving with a 115 of them coming in the national championship game. That season wasn't great. He only scored 5 TDs and had 30 receptions. That's Phillip Dorsett. Brown's great season was 1984. Great year. He had over 1000K yards receiving, 60 catches, 9 TDs, All-American. Fantastic year.

But I leave him off of Mount Rushmore, because Toney's one season was better than Brown's best season (of his two). Without Toney, we don't beat A&M and we don't beat Ole Miss. OSU's entire defense was designed to stop Toney. He had over a 100 catches, 1200 yards, 10 TDs (also 1TD rushing, and 2 TDs passing). He was the best player on the field every single time he stepped on the field (an argument can be made vs OSU, but their entire defense was designed to stop him). He certainly was the best player on the field vs Indiana. That's a superstar. IMO, superstars are players where there are no dissenting opinions about their stardom. For instance, no one would ever object to Shohei and him being a superstar, or Jeremiah Smith, etc. Or to bring it closer to home and personal, no one would object to Michael Irvin, Santana Moss, Andre Johnson, and Malachi Toney being superstars. They are the top 4 WRs ever at Miami. Eddie Brown was good, **** good. But Mount Rushmore only has four spots, and he's not on it.
 
423Hurricane said:
Consensus All American in ‘84 and left as Miami’s all time leading receiver in yards, receptions and TD’s. First round pick -13th overall by the Bengals - in ‘85 and NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year. I saw him play and he was right up there with any Miami great.
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hey brother. I don't think what a player does after playing at Miami should be considered for being an all time Miami great. And to be fair, UM WR unit before 1983 wasn't impressive.
 
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