Socialism v. Capitalism

[supersaiyanshel]

Trump vs ILLARY. Capitalism vs Socialism/ Communism

Not trying to get political, but Trump is no Capitalist (I prefer the term robber baron to describe him), and Hillary most definitely is no Socialist (as a socialist hack myself, I would know). Believe me.

Love ya, DMoney, but that's not socialism you described. That's more like the current brand of economic policy we have that's masquerading as Capitalism. You know Steve Jobs, but I highly doubt you know the guys who came up with the iPhone or its patents, feel me?

I get what you're saying, though.

No, D got it pretty right on. The fact that we live under fascism doesn't change what capitalism or socialism are. Inherent is every socialist regime is the "leader" complex of the few knowing better and getting the credit. It has always been an elitist school of thought. Boiled down to bare bones: Socialists sit around and think; Capitalist go out a get things done to make money(certainly one could argue more than they fair share). Mark was smartest guy in the room type. Manny is the lets go beat the crap out of people and take our share, if you do come you don't get. Classic Think/Action contrast. Framer/Hunter types also. I bet you believe you should think things though and see what grows. Others would rather shoot something and eat.

I disagree about the leader complex and socialism, my man. That applies more to Communism (fidel, mao, stalin, lenin, Kim jong), which contrary to popular belief is a different concept than socialism.

Believe it or not, especially during the 30s to the late 50s, the US was one of the most socialist countries IN THE WORLD. We taxed at a high rate, gave huge subsidies to corporations that favored one over another, and there were far less millionaires and billionaires than today.

Dorito was a plutocrat. A protected individual whose performance didn't matter, which also applied to his philosophy in recruiting and Defense. He and Golden were never at fault bc they had no one to hold them accountable for years l. They acted and carried themselves as elites. That's not socoalism.

 

[imurcane]

Where the **** is Monty Brewster when you need him? Vote none of the above . . . speaking of Clinton and Trump.

That's good inside game. People n here needing to do the Google

I wondered if anyone would get it . . .thanks!

 

[CaneFan79]

I think the election campaign and the Miami Defense improvement have more to do with Colonel John Boyd, USAF and his "Observe-Orient-Decide-Act (OODA) "loop."

According to Boyd, decision-making occurs in a recurring cycle of observe-orient-decide-act. An entity (whether an individual or an organization) that can process this cycle quickly, observing and reacting to unfolding events more rapidly than an opponent can thereby "get inside" the opponent's decision cycle and gain the advantage.

Trump did that to his Repub opponents and after some false starts, appears to be doing it to Hillary. Same with New Coach D vs. Old Coach No D; Diaz creates havoc, Onfrio let the offense dictate the game to him, and by extension, his players.

 

[supersaiyanshel]

I think the election campaign and the Miami Defense improvement have more to do with Colonel John Boyd, USAF and his "Observe-Orient-Decide-Act (OODA) "loop."

According to Boyd, decision-making occurs in a recurring cycle of observe-orient-decide-act. An entity (whether an individual or an organization) that can process this cycle quickly, observing and reacting to unfolding events more rapidly than an opponent can thereby "get inside" the opponent's decision cycle and gain the advantage.

Trump did that to his Repub opponents and after some false starts, appears to be doing it to Hillary. Same with New Coach D vs. Old Coach No D; Diaz creates havoc, Onfrio let the offense dictate the game to him, and by extension, his players.

If we're making analogies...

Trump=Golden -- Never accomplished anything, yet fools people into thinking he has. Never accepts responsibility, blames others, refuses to change or adapt, is living in a past era.

Hillary=Jumbo -- Sweeps scandals under the rug, has a well-oiled machine that should be performing better than it is, and has a serial cheater for a spouse.

 

[jackedaround]

Mark D'Onofrio: "If every single person does their job, the defense will be successful. And I'll get all the credit."

Manny Diaz: "If you don't make the play, the guy next to you will make the play. And he'll get all the credit."

Golden said to eat a mcdonalds cheeseburger so which is that

 

[supersaiyanshel]

Mark D'Onofrio: "If every single person does their job, the defense will be successful. And I'll get all the credit."

Manny Diaz: "If you don't make the play, the guy next to you will make the play. And he'll get all the credit."

Golden said to eat a mcdonalds cheeseburger so which is that

Chris Cristieism?

 

[Jmhcane]

Mark D'Onofrio: "If every single person does their job, the defense will be successful. And I'll get all the credit."

Manny Diaz: "If you don't make the play, the guy next to you will make the play. And he'll get all the credit."

Why this post??
Just opens the door for a lot of hateful responses that occasionally ruin this site.

 

[kryptonite]

This is going to be a rare thread that starts off with an excellent humorous post by the OP and then..........goes straight to ****.

How could you possibly know a thing like that?

 

[CaneFan79]

I think the election campaign and the Miami Defense improvement have more to do with Colonel John Boyd, USAF and his "Observe-Orient-Decide-Act (OODA) "loop."

According to Boyd, decision-making occurs in a recurring cycle of observe-orient-decide-act. An entity (whether an individual or an organization) that can process this cycle quickly, observing and reacting to unfolding events more rapidly than an opponent can thereby "get inside" the opponent's decision cycle and gain the advantage.

Trump did that to his Repub opponents and after some false starts, appears to be doing it to Hillary. Same with New Coach D vs. Old Coach No D; Diaz creates havoc, Onfrio let the offense dictate the game to him, and by extension, his players.

If we're making analogies...

Trump=Golden -- Never accomplished anything, yet fools people into thinking he has. Never accepts responsibility, blames others, refuses to change or adapt, is living in a past era.

Hillary=Jumbo -- Sweeps scandals under the rug, has a well-oiled machine that should be performing better than it is, and has a serial cheater for a spouse.

To say a person with a brand name such as Trump has "Never Accomplished Anything" is a stretch...Have you ever even tried to find a place to live in Manhattan, let alone build/purchase the amount of properties he has in his portfolio? He is no Harry Helmsley (who started with pretty much nothing), but to say he hasn't accomplished anything is ignorant. I would equate Trump to Rich Rodriquez.

Flipping this, what has Hillery accomplished? She is Don Nehlen without the home, three point win against Miami in '93.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

This is going to be a rare thread that starts off with an excellent humorous post by the OP and then..........goes straight to ****.

How quickly before someone starts keyboard screaming at another poster that they are...

a faccquit, ghey, r tarded, a c unt, a f ag, oh the list goes on and on...

5...4...3...2...1...

You just did. Congratulations.

 

[Genghis Cane]

Careful D-Money, you don't want to rustle the jimmies of all of those Bernie Sanders fans lmao.

 

[supersaiyanshel]

I think the election campaign and the Miami Defense improvement have more to do with Colonel John Boyd, USAF and his "Observe-Orient-Decide-Act (OODA) "loop."

According to Boyd, decision-making occurs in a recurring cycle of observe-orient-decide-act. An entity (whether an individual or an organization) that can process this cycle quickly, observing and reacting to unfolding events more rapidly than an opponent can thereby "get inside" the opponent's decision cycle and gain the advantage.

Trump did that to his Repub opponents and after some false starts, appears to be doing it to Hillary. Same with New Coach D vs. Old Coach No D; Diaz creates havoc, Onfrio let the offense dictate the game to him, and by extension, his players.

If we're making analogies...

Trump=Golden -- Never accomplished anything, yet fools people into thinking he has. Never accepts responsibility, blames others, refuses to change or adapt, is living in a past era.

Hillary=Jumbo -- Sweeps scandals under the rug, has a well-oiled machine that should be performing better than it is, and has a serial cheater for a spouse.

To say a person with a brand name such as Trump has "Never Accomplished Anything" is a stretch...Have you ever even tried to find a place to live in Manhattan, let alone build/purchase the amount of properties he has in his portfolio? He is no Harry Helmsley (who started with pretty much nothing), but to say he hasn't accomplished anything is ignorant. I would equate Trump to Rich Rodriquez.

Flipping this, what has Hillery accomplished? She is Don Nehlen without the home, three point win against Miami in '93.

I don't consider inherited wealth to be much of an accomplishment. Furthermore, he is not a billionaire as he claims, and its well documented that even if you believe he is, he would have far more money in his portfolio today had he just sat on his father's money.

If we're going by wealth, it's been speculated that Hillary and Bill have made more money the last decade than Trump has (and that's without the Clinton foundation). I'm no Hillary fan, but Trump's brand, like Golden's is all slogans and talk, very little in terms of results when you really sit down and scrutinize it.

His policies are Golden like too. Illegal Immigration is an absolute legit issue, but like Golden's patty cake 3-4, and playing WR's 10 yards off the ball on obvious running plays, "BUILD THE WALL" is ridiculous when you consider most illegal immigration occurs via airport. How is a wall on the Southern border going to stop immigrants from Africa, Europe, Canada (yes, Canada), Asia, and the Carribbean from illegally coming and staying here? The issue is bigger than Mexicon and Central America (who it should also be noted most of whom don't even come here via the border crossing anymore).

 

[Gatorhater]

Trump vs ILLARY. Capitalism vs Socialism/ Communism

Not trying to get political, but Trump is no Capitalist (I prefer the term robber baron to describe him), and Hillary most definitely is no Socialist (as a socialist hack myself, I would know). Believe me.

Love ya, DMoney, but that's not socialism you described. That's more like the current brand of economic policy we have that's masquerading as Capitalism. You know Steve Jobs, but I highly doubt you know the guys who came up with the iPhone or its patents, feel me?

I get what you're saying, though.

No, D got it pretty right on. The fact that we live under fascism doesn't change what capitalism or socialism are. Inherent is every socialist regime is the "leader" complex of the few knowing better and getting the credit. It has always been an elitist school of thought. Boiled down to bare bones: Socialists sit around and think; Capitalist go out a get things done to make money(certainly one could argue more than they fair share). Mark was smartest guy in the room type. Manny is the lets go beat the crap out of people and take our share, if you do come you don't get. Classic Think/Action contrast. Framer/Hunter types also. I bet you believe you should think things though and see what grows. Others would rather shoot something and eat.

I disagree about the leader complex and socialism, my man. That applies more to Communism (fidel, mao, stalin, lenin, Kim jong), which contrary to popular belief is a different concept than socialism.

Believe it or not, especially during the 30s to the late 50s, the US was one of the most socialist countries IN THE WORLD. We taxed at a high rate, gave huge subsidies to corporations that favored one over another, and there were far less millionaires and billionaires than today.

Dorito was a plutocrat. A protected individual whose performance didn't matter, which also applied to his philosophy in recruiting and Defense. He and Golden were never at fault bc they had no one to hold them accountable for years l. They acted and carried themselves as elites. That's not socoalism.

Fascism, Socialism, Communism are different labels for similar products. You left out Benito, Hitler and Franco. You are certainly correct about US. Starting with old Teddy, to Wilson and huge during FDR the government reached for and grabbed the levers of productions. Avoiding the pitfall of direct control communism, the Utopia of socialists, enable us to continue to excel, but left us in the fascist from of the beast. The Clintons, Bushes and Obama are global fascists. Although the Bushes probably see us leading the new world order while that is the last thing Obama wants with the Clintons are available to highest bidder. Any way your cut it, none of them give a crap about you and me.

I do object to the slander of Pluto's good name by association with Dorito. Both a planet,or former, planet and the beloved character deserve better.

 

[CaneFan79]

I think the election campaign and the Miami Defense improvement have more to do with Colonel John Boyd, USAF and his "Observe-Orient-Decide-Act (OODA) "loop."

According to Boyd, decision-making occurs in a recurring cycle of observe-orient-decide-act. An entity (whether an individual or an organization) that can process this cycle quickly, observing and reacting to unfolding events more rapidly than an opponent can thereby "get inside" the opponent's decision cycle and gain the advantage.

Trump did that to his Repub opponents and after some false starts, appears to be doing it to Hillary. Same with New Coach D vs. Old Coach No D; Diaz creates havoc, Onfrio let the offense dictate the game to him, and by extension, his players.

If we're making analogies...

Trump=Golden -- Never accomplished anything, yet fools people into thinking he has. Never accepts responsibility, blames others, refuses to change or adapt, is living in a past era.

Hillary=Jumbo -- Sweeps scandals under the rug, has a well-oiled machine that should be performing better than it is, and has a serial cheater for a spouse.

To say a person with a brand name such as Trump has "Never Accomplished Anything" is a stretch...Have you ever even tried to find a place to live in Manhattan, let alone build/purchase the amount of properties he has in his portfolio? He is no Harry Helmsley (who started with pretty much nothing), but to say he hasn't accomplished anything is ignorant. I would equate Trump to Rich Rodriquez.

Flipping this, what has Hillery accomplished? She is Don Nehlen without the home, three point win against Miami in '93.

I don't consider inherited wealth to be much of an accomplishment. Furthermore, he is not a billionaire as he claims, and its well documented that even if you believe he is, he would have far more money in his portfolio today had he just sat on his father's money.

If we're going by wealth, it's been speculated that Hillary and Bill have made more money the last decade than Trump has (and that's without the Clinton foundation). I'm no Hillary fan, but Trump's brand, like Golden's is all slogans and talk, very little in terms of results when you really sit down and scrutinize it.

His policies are Golden like too. Illegal Immigration is an absolute legit issue, but like Golden's patty cake 3-4, and playing WR's 10 yards off the ball on obvious running plays, "BUILD THE WALL" is ridiculous when you consider most illegal immigration occurs via airport. How is a wall on the Southern border going to stop immigrants from Africa, Europe, Canada (yes, Canada), Asia, and the Carribbean from illegally coming and staying here? The issue is bigger than Mexicon and Central America (who it should also be noted most of whom don't even come here via the border crossing anymore).

Here is the most balanced view of Trump's wealth I have found:

This Is How Donald Trump Actually Got Rich | Investopedia

Bankruptcy? Sure, but if you fly into Miami hub on American Airlines, pick up your Cadillac Escalade and head to campus, unfortunately get hit and killed and your family cashes in your BankersLife policy...Well, all of these companies went bankrupt too and re-org'd like Trump's companies did. Golden took the easy way out and blamed "The Cloud" for his impotence during his entire tenure.

Selling influence and political favors is hardly an example of business acumen; in fact, I would rather have someone in the White House who has faced adversity then sold themselves to the highest bidder. Again, what are Hillary's real accomplishments? No D had the Florida game to hang his Waffle House menus on for a year, Hillary's commercials tout her arms deal which made our 1960s-era Minuteman III ICBM single warheaded while the Russians deploy brand new heavy and super heavy ICBMs. Yep, No D has her beat in spades!

 

[AUcane]

Shannon's defenses towards the end was like that. If one guy was out of position, the whole defense would have a huge hole and we'd get gashed. With tweedle Dee and tweedle dum, it got much worse.

 

[supersaiyanshel]

I think the election campaign and the Miami Defense improvement have more to do with Colonel John Boyd, USAF and his "Observe-Orient-Decide-Act (OODA) "loop."

According to Boyd, decision-making occurs in a recurring cycle of observe-orient-decide-act. An entity (whether an individual or an organization) that can process this cycle quickly, observing and reacting to unfolding events more rapidly than an opponent can thereby "get inside" the opponent's decision cycle and gain the advantage.

Trump did that to his Repub opponents and after some false starts, appears to be doing it to Hillary. Same with New Coach D vs. Old Coach No D; Diaz creates havoc, Onfrio let the offense dictate the game to him, and by extension, his players.

If we're making analogies...

Trump=Golden -- Never accomplished anything, yet fools people into thinking he has. Never accepts responsibility, blames others, refuses to change or adapt, is living in a past era.

Hillary=Jumbo -- Sweeps scandals under the rug, has a well-oiled machine that should be performing better than it is, and has a serial cheater for a spouse.

To say a person with a brand name such as Trump has "Never Accomplished Anything" is a stretch...Have you ever even tried to find a place to live in Manhattan, let alone build/purchase the amount of properties he has in his portfolio? He is no Harry Helmsley (who started with pretty much nothing), but to say he hasn't accomplished anything is ignorant. I would equate Trump to Rich Rodriquez.

Flipping this, what has Hillery accomplished? She is Don Nehlen without the home, three point win against Miami in '93.

I don't consider inherited wealth to be much of an accomplishment. Furthermore, he is not a billionaire as he claims, and its well documented that even if you believe he is, he would have far more money in his portfolio today had he just sat on his father's money.

If we're going by wealth, it's been speculated that Hillary and Bill have made more money the last decade than Trump has (and that's without the Clinton foundation). I'm no Hillary fan, but Trump's brand, like Golden's is all slogans and talk, very little in terms of results when you really sit down and scrutinize it.

His policies are Golden like too. Illegal Immigration is an absolute legit issue, but like Golden's patty cake 3-4, and playing WR's 10 yards off the ball on obvious running plays, "BUILD THE WALL" is ridiculous when you consider most illegal immigration occurs via airport. How is a wall on the Southern border going to stop immigrants from Africa, Europe, Canada (yes, Canada), Asia, and the Carribbean from illegally coming and staying here? The issue is bigger than Mexicon and Central America (who it should also be noted most of whom don't even come here via the border crossing anymore).

Here is the most balanced view of Trump's wealth I have found:

This Is How Donald Trump Actually Got Rich | Investopedia

Bankruptcy? Sure, but if you fly into Miami hub on American Airlines, pick up your Cadillac Escalade and head to campus, unfortunately get hit and killed and your family cashes in your BankersLife policy...Well, all of these companies went bankrupt too and re-org'd like Trump's companies did. Golden took the easy way out and blamed "The Cloud" for his impotence during his entire tenure.

Selling influence and political favors is hardly an example of business acumen; in fact, I would rather have someone in the White House who has faced adversity then sold themselves to the highest bidder. Again, what are Hillary's real accomplishments? No D had the Florida game to hang his Waffle House menus on for a year, Hillary's commercials tout her arms deal which made our 1960s-era Minuteman III ICBM single warheaded while the Russians deploy brand new heavy and super heavy ICBMs. Yep, No D has her beat in spades!

You're clearly an intelligent guy, so Im hoping youll read this. This is the truth about Trumps worth (actual court transcripts). He is not a billionaire and can't even say so himself under oath.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/trump-lies/

Hillary has a list of shady things about her, the Clinton foundation isn't one of them bro. Don't fall for that media narrative. There's a ton of crooked things she's done. The CF ain't one of them bruh. You asked her accomplishments? She was elected Senator of a state she's not even from. No matter how much you dislike her, not everybody can just get elected a senator. The CF has a higher charitable organization rating than the red cross (and way higher than the Trump Foundations which is far shadier than the CF).

And what about Trump paying off our idiot Gator bimbo Attorney General to drop the Trump U (yet another of his failures) lawsuit ?

What adversity has Trump EVER faced ? Deciding wheter to take the jet or bentley aint adversity. He sells favor all day. He's balls deep into it w Russian oligarchs and Chinese bankers. C'mon man.

I loathe Hillary. But I'm not sure how Trump can be taken more seriously. Hillary at her worse would be a bad Obama. Trump at his best would lead to an economic apocalypse and possibly a suspension of basic freedoms we enjoy

 

[ChrisLamar757]

OP sniffs cat **** as a hobby.

 

[WhoDat]

Let it go. He's gone.

 

[OrangetieFatface]

"Lolcats hey Danny dollar signs, I bet this politician I don't like is a socialist which is a communist LULZ HAHA."

You're looking for totalitarianism. Socialism would be a system where the players govern themselves.

 

[rt cane]

Forget these politicians, they ALL just do what the big money tells them to do , they dont care about you or me.