Social media’s impact on football coaches

[The Owl]

Actually, I heard they are tired of making SEC title games and didn't like their playoff win.

Funny you say that, I heard that they hate having to sign all of these five stars. Don't kill the messenger but I heard them say that if they could swap their 2019 recruiting class for ours, they would.

 

[deleted19096]

Funny you say that, I heard that they hate having to sign all of these five stars. Don't kill the messenger but I heard them say that if they could switch their 2019 recruiting class for ours, they would.

I'd gladly trade them recruiting classes and head coaches.

 

[kryptonite]

Bama was horrible for about 15 years. They still went to games and didn’t fly banners. Their AD even made a coach who tried to resign finish the season and they went 3-8. They even announced he’d be fired at the end of the season half way through but had him keep coaching. Blake James has never been that bad. Bama fans still showed up

That was 15 years ago, that sht doesn't fly anymore. A coach on the way to 3-8 gets fired mid-season and the coaching search begins.

I'm serious, things have changed. There's no patience anymore, nobody wants to hear that a turnaround takes 5 years or that there will be set-backs. You show significant progress in 3 years or you're looking for a new job. Watch what happens if fsu doesn't look significantly better next year. It's not just football, everything moves faster these days and nobody has time for losing.

 

[kryptonite]

UGA has one modern NC in 1980. It took a once in a generation type player for them to get it.

CMR not getting a title at UGA is not some type of anti-Richt selling point no matter how many of you would like to believe it is.

Additionally UGA is doing exactly the same right now as they did with CMR...very strong team that isn't quite able to run with the elite. Next year will go a long way both at UM and UGA to determine what type of coach he is.

What's funny is that this was the year that was going to show what a corch kirby is. Now he's rolling into the seccg and a win puts him in the playoff again. And a loss is totally understandable. As long as they don't get embarrassed by bama, this season was a full-on success.

He better start stinking up the place soon or your whole argument goes out the window.

 

[The Franchise]

That was 15 years ago, that sht doesn't fly anymore. A coach on the way to 3-8 gets fired mid-season and the coaching search begins.

I'm serious, things have changed. There's no patience anymore, nobody wants to hear that a turnaround takes 5 years or that there will be set-backs. You show significant progress in 3 years or you're looking for a new job. Watch what happens if fsu doesn't look significantly better next year. It's not just football, everything moves faster these days and nobody has time for losing.

This is exactly the point of my original post, and, as usual, goofball Rickophants took it and contorted it to an unrecognizable heap in order to blame our fans in particular or to point out some fake contrarian theory that is wholly unsupportable.

Fact is social media has changed the world. And it’s shortened a coach’s leash at ANY marquee program (and many non-marquee programs) to a 3 year max. If you’re on the fail train in year 3 it’s going to get super toxic. And that’s going to permeate every aspect of the program. This is especially true when your marquee program has repeated this same pattern for the last 15 years.

Ghey Helton, in year 3, was forced to dump his entire staff in order to save his own hide. This is coming off one excellent season and one good season.

 

[deleted20764]

What's funny is that this was the year that was going to show what a corch kirby is. Now he's rolling into the seccg and a win puts him in the playoff again. And a loss is totally understandable. As long as they don't get embarrassed by bama, this season was a full-on success.

He better start stinking up the place soon or your whole argument goes out the window.

Why would he need to "start stinking up the place soon"? CMR never stunk at UGA. The beginnings of their careers are incredibly similar. UGA will either get a Ship under Smart or they won't. That will be the lone delineating factor.

 

[orange&green84]

Well Miami fans give butch credit for Coker’s success..overall time will tell what UGA is W/O MR. But my whole argument is MR just fineshed year 3, he done enough in his 1st 2 years here for fans not to be calling for his head mid season. Not saying that’s your stance but a lot of others here feel that way.

You don’t think he’ll make changes based on his history at uga. I understand your argument.

Every year you saw the steady digression of the team. It's year 3 and Kirby has them at a 11-1 record in the SEC title game. You could make that argument after 1 or 2 years, by year 3, it's the new coaches team.

 

[FrancisSawyer]

I suggest you apply for the coaching position. You seem to have all the answers. Are you Nick saban Jr.?

@g8rh8rMD writes a **** good post that pretty much sums up the situation and that's what you get out of it? That's your reply? That's your level of insight? That's your contribution? Do us all a favor and kindly refrain from posting. Have a nice day.

 

[Empirical Cane]

...Now he's rolling into the seccg and a win puts him in the playoff again. And a loss is totally understandable. As long as they don't get embarrassed by bama, this season was a full-on success...

Respectfully disagree.

The UGA's BOT, AD, and fan base have set "Natty or bust" on the program with Kirby's hire. Not once, but every year.

They don't win it this year, the season will be labeled far from a success. Not even close.

 

[Dorcane]

@g8rh8rMD writes a **** good post that pretty much sums up the situation and that's what you get out of it? That's your reply? That's your level of insight? That's your contribution? Do us all a favor and kindly refrain from posting. Have a nice day.

Last I looked we still live in a democracy and I have a right to my opinion. If you don’t like it don’t read it. A lot of you here pretend you could be college level coaches. You are not. And when someone disagrees with your umpteenth post on the same issue you don’t like it. So no, I will post what I want and respectfully disagree.

 

[kryptonite]

Respectfully disagree.

The UGA's BOT, AD, and fan base have set "Natty or bust" on the program with Kirby's hire. Not once, but every year.

They don't win it this year, the season will be labeled far from a success. Not even close.

My point was that, unlike Richt, he's not corching it up over there. No doubt they will expect more from him, but he's delivering at a high level so far. He's done exactly what we expected of Richt this year...got them to the secCG with a shot at the playoff. At this point, reasonable people see that as acceptable.

 

[FrancisSawyer]

Last I looked we still live in a democracy and I have a right to my opinion. If you don’t like it don’t read it. A lot of you here pretend you could be college level coaches. You are not. And when someone disagrees with your umpteenth post on the same issue you don’t like it. So no, I will post what I want and respectfully disagree.

What on earth ever gave you the idea that CIS is a democracy?

 

[deleted20764]

My point was that, unlike Richt, he's not corching it up over there. No doubt they will expect more from him, but he's delivering at a high level so far. He's done exactly what we expected of Richt this year...got them to the secCG with a shot at the playoff. At this point, reasonable people see that as acceptable.

Richt never corched it up at UGa tho... And their first three years are remarkably similar.

You should stop pretending Richts time at UGA wasn't successful.

 

[kryptonite]

Richt never corched it up at UGa tho... And their first three years are remarkably similar.

You should stop pretending Richts time at UGA wasn't successful.

If you're going to respond, at least read what I wrote. I'm comparing what Kirby is doing right now with what Richt is doing right now. My only concern is that Richt is sucking it right now at Miami, wins from years ago at another school are of no value to me.

But hey, you rest easy in the knowledge that Kirby isn't doing better than Richt from 15 years ago. At UGA.

 

[deleted20764]

If you're going to respond, at least read what I wrote. I'm comparing what Kirby is doing right now with what Richt is doing right now. My only concern is that Richt is sucking it right now at Miami, wins from years ago at another school are of no value to me.

But hey, you rest easy in the knowledge that Kirby isn't doing better than Richt from 15 years ago. At UGA.

Here's the thing...read this slowly:

The only way Kirby separates himself from Richt is with a Ship. That's it.
The question we have to ask is why would any able minded human ever hold CMR not winning a Ship at UGA against him?
UGA is not a premier destination
UGA does not have a history of being a NC'ship powerhouse
UGA is not an elite SEC team

UGA is the VTech of the SEC. It would (and did ) take an act of God for them to win it all.

It is absolutely pertinent to compare the beginning of CMR's career at UGA with Smarts. There is no value at all in comparing their first years at different schools.

When they fired Richt it was because they felt another coach could get them to the next level. So far they have a lateral move at best. Do you really think that's what they wanted?

The fact Smart isn't doing better than CMR means firing him was a mistake.

 

[Empirical Cane]

Richt never corched it up at UGa tho... And their first three years are remarkably similar.

You should stop pretending Richts time at UGA wasn't successful.

By measure of Natty, no, none of his years at UGA were successful.

 

[Dwinstitles]

The big problem for slugs like Rick and Folden is social media. It used to be that the only coverage you’d get of UM football was Edwin Pope and Linda Robertson gargling the goo of whoever was the UM HC. And the feeble voices of UM on WQAM making excuses for struggling coaches and dismissing any dissenting voices. As a result, the HC had a lot more leeway and recruits weren’t bombarded with an instant flow of information and truth.

Now, the minute a coach is revealed as a fraud it’s broadcast all over the world, and recruits are hammered with what a disaster the HC is. The program immediately becomes toxic, and recruiting goes in the tank. It’s a very palpable phenomenon.

Our first hardcore social media age HC was Folden. Look at the way the program became toxic as soon as he was revealed as a fraud. We went from beating Alabaga for a bunch of recruits to stealing guys like Bobyonce’ Knowles and Terrance Henley from FIU. Same pattern is now underway with Rick.

I tend to think that once our program reaches this level of social media toxicity I don’t think the current HC can turn it around. It’ll take a miracle OC hire who instantly transforms the offense into a top 5 deal. Otherwise, it’s a wrap. It can’t be slow progress that us vultures could immediately poke holes in. It would have to an immediate and very noticeable turnaround.

If Booch David did what he did here during this same social media age he never would have made it past year 3 or 4. The standard here at the time was infinitely higher than it is now, and he would have been buried by the fans in today’s social media world.

lol

 

[NVA CANE]

This is exactly the point of my original post, and, as usual, goofball Rickophants took it and contorted it to an unrecognizable heap in order to blame our fans in particular or to point out some fake contrarian theory that is wholly unsupportable.

Fact is social media has changed the world. And it’s shortened a coach’s leash at ANY marquee program (and many non-marquee programs) to a 3 year max. If you’re on the fail train in year 3 it’s going to get super toxic. And that’s going to permeate every aspect of the program. This is especially true when your marquee program has repeated this same pattern for the last 15 years.

Ghey Helton, in year 3, was forced to dump his entire staff in order to save his own hide. This is coming off one excellent season and one good season.

I actually think our fan base is pretty fair. We’ve gotten behind and given ample time for each coach. Golden, richt, etc.

Richt lost the fans at uva and it got toxic from there. I agree that he doesn’t recover from it because it’s a snowball effect. He ****ed himself and i don’t see how he reverses it. Not with social media that’s for sure.