So you want a Defensive Coach, eh?

[FullyERicht]

Mark Dantonio and Gary Patterson run clones of our defense from 1991. While GP does it out of the 4-2-5 and uses man coverage for blitzes, Dantonio's system is, aside from a blitz package, an identical clone. Narduzzi, who brought this defense to MSU, openly speaks about how he learned it at a Tommy Tuberville clinic in the early 90s.

For those of you who just finished puberty, the 1991 Miami defense was by every statistical measure, the greatest in our history. The precursor to that season of course was the Jan of '91 Cotton Bowl. If you don't know about that game, or more importantly, if you haven't watched that game, do so right now below.

So why 1991? Well that defense was not run by a JJ tree cat. It wasn't the Stache, or Tubbs (he was still an assistant), or Butch. It was Sonny Lubick. Sonny took JJs playbook and somehow made it even more aggressive. He took JJs base defense and added tweaks. The type of coverage you see at MSU, pressed quarters, was a Lubick added concept. Forcing with the Safeties even in Cover 2 was a Lubick concept.

And it absolutely trashed any defense Butch Davis, Bill Miller, and Greg Schiano ever ran. Butch ran more under front and 3 deep zone than those early 90s teams. Miller was a corch. Schiano's defense that was quite good was essentially the Penn State zone blitz of Jerry Sandusky.

So I have tremendous respect and admiration for you if you want a coach who runs "a Miami defense". But if that's the case, you should be screaming for Dantonio, then Patterson, before Butch.

[video=youtube;mVe6DQgxTG8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVe6DQgxTG8[/video]

 

[TomAce]

I can watch the 91 cotton bowl on an endless loop

 

[Deleted member 13422]

I like Dantonio a lot Showers.

 

[Southbeach44]

Mark Dantonio and Gary Patterson run clones of our defense from 1991. While GP does it out of the 4-2-5 and uses man coverage for blitzes, Dantonio's system is, aside from a blitz package, an identical clone. Narduzzi, who brought this defense to MSU, openly speaks about how he learned it at a Tommy Tuberville clinic in the early 90s.

For those of you who just finished puberty, the 1991 Miami defense was by every statistical measure, the greatest in our history. The precursor to that season of course was the Jan of '91 Cotton Bowl. If you don't know about that game, or more importantly, if you haven't watched that game, do so right now below.

So why 1991? Well that defense was not run by a JJ tree cat. It wasn't the Stache, or Tubbs (he was still an assistant), or Butch. It was Sonny Lubick. Sonny took JJs playbook and somehow made it even more aggressive. He took JJs base defense and added tweaks. The type of coverage you see at MSU, pressed quarters, was a Lubick added concept. Forcing with the Safeties even in Cover 2 was a Lubick concept.

And it absolutely trashed any defense Butch Davis, Bill Miller, and Greg Schiano ever ran. Butch ran more under front and 3 deep zone than those early 90s teams. Miller was a corch. Schiano's defense that was quite good was essentially the Penn State zone blitz of Jerry Sandusky.

So I have tremendous respect and admiration for you if you want a coach who runs "a Miami defense". But if that's the case, you should be screaming for Dantonio, then Patterson, before Butch.

[video=youtube;mVe6DQgxTG8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVe6DQgxTG8[/video]

Showers be speakin the troof. Yes sir!

 

[TemplarCane]

Mark Dantonio was also Ohio State DC for the Fiesta Bowl. Coached for Saban at Michigan State. Great coach, no doubt about it.

Zero chance at hiring him away from Michigan State.

 

[DMoney]

Who wouldn't take Patterson or D'Antonio?

Most people assume they are longshots. And while I believe this is the best job in the country to win national championships, they probably are longshots. Butch gets talked about more because he's more realistic.

 

[INCaneFan]

I just haven't been able to comprehend why some have a Botch ahead of certain someone's, Patterson being one of them. He was my number one choice prior to Chip Kelly being dropped as a possibility, however unlikely he is. He would kill it here and with the inroads in Texas, forget about it. I know some aren't keen on Les Miles, but like Patterson he'd bring us another quality state in Louisiana.

 

[INCaneFan]

Who wouldn't take Patterson or D'Antonio?

Most people assume they are longshots. And while I believe this is the best job in the country to win national championships, they probably are longshots. Butch gets talked about more because he's more realistic.

That's fair, but if they're talking four million and possibly more, he's not that far fetched.

 

[Foreman]

LMFAO 1st and 40! on the first offensive play of the game, and they still converted it for a first down!

We should have hired Narduzzi last year...

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Mark Dantonio and Gary Patterson run clones of our defense from 1991. While GP does it out of the 4-2-5 and uses man coverage for blitzes, Dantonio's system is, aside from a blitz package, an identical clone. Narduzzi, who brought this defense to MSU, openly speaks about how he learned it at a Tommy Tuberville clinic in the early 90s.

For those of you who just finished puberty, the 1991 Miami defense was by every statistical measure, the greatest in our history. The precursor to that season of course was the Jan of '91 Cotton Bowl. If you don't know about that game, or more importantly, if you haven't watched that game, do so right now below.

So why 1991? Well that defense was not run by a JJ tree cat. It wasn't the Stache, or Tubbs (he was still an assistant), or Butch. It was Sonny Lubick. Sonny took JJs playbook and somehow made it even more aggressive. He took JJs base defense and added tweaks. The type of coverage you see at MSU, pressed quarters, was a Lubick added concept. Forcing with the Safeties even in Cover 2 was a Lubick concept.

And it absolutely trashed any defense Butch Davis, Bill Miller, and Greg Schiano ever ran. Butch ran more under front and 3 deep zone than those early 90s teams. Miller was a corch. Schiano's defense that was quite good was essentially the Penn State zone blitz of Jerry Sandusky.

So I have tremendous respect and admiration for you if you want a coach who runs "a Miami defense". But if that's the case, you should be screaming for Dantonio, then Patterson, before Butch.

So you're tucking tail and running from my bet?

I'm not surprised.

 

[FullyERicht]

Who wouldn't take Patterson or D'Antonio?

Most people assume they are longshots. And while I believe this is the best job in the country to win national championships, they probably are longshots. Butch gets talked about more because he's more realistic.

Bc there are people who legitimately prefer Butch Davis to those cats. Who are so obsessed with Davis that they refuse to acknowledge any other coach.

My opinion is this: if you aren't gonna to get a homerun, why bother? Anything less than a quick turnaround is going to become incredibly toxic here. Our players deserve better. The Miami fanbase deserves better.

 

[FullyERicht]

I mean heck let's just hire Lubick, since we want Miami style D. Lubick defense takes a dump on Butch's.

 

[canesrdynamite]

Russell Maryland, K Patrick, Rusty, Barrow, Smith & Armstead at lb, Williams & McNeil -- **** we had some horses. And they could talk the talk and walk it too. Can't beat tellin a guy you're gonna knock him out on the 1st play and then doin it on national tv. lol

Maryland is one of those once in a lifetime type guys, but if we could get some kinda old school Cane talent at DT, the glory days would come again.

 

[TemplarCane]

If Miami is willing to pay $4M/yr (I heard $6M/yr today...FWIW) the list of realistic candidates grew. I'm in the BBB camp but if you can hire Patterson or D'Antonio I'm all for it.

Les Miles? No. Miami doesn't have the bagmen roster Miles is used to. Forget it.

Who wouldn't take Patterson or D'Antonio?

Most people assume they are longshots. And while I believe this is the best job in the country to win national championships, they probably are longshots. Butch gets talked about more because he's more realistic.

 

[Gatorhater]

Who wouldn't take Patterson or D'Antonio?

Most people assume they are longshots. And while I believe this is the best job in the country to win national championships, they probably are longshots. Butch gets talked about more because he's more realistic.

Bc there are people who legitimately prefer Butch Davis to those cats. Who are so obsessed with Davis that they refuse to acknowledge any other coach.

My opinion is this: if you aren't gonna to get a homerun, why bother? Anything less than a quick turnaround is going to become incredibly toxic here. Our players deserve better. The Miami fanbase deserves better.

I am one who thinks we need Butch to rebuild THE U for a ton of reasons other than coaching. This team is too full of golden bs for a quick turnaround. That said, D'Antonio is one I would take without complaint. I am tired of hearing Patterson's name. If he was leaving TCU it needed to be done. But Mark would be interesting and possible alternative to Butch. We still do not know if he can handle Miami and recruit anywhere like Butch. If he can, then he is the man that can take our talent and put an end to all the NEW offenses.

I was at the Cotton Bowl, that was NFL level defense. Imagine Sonny coaching the talent Butch left Larry. You might not know it but you made the case for Butch many of us believe. His recruiting as HC was so great coaching almost didn't matter. 1991 team still needed some. That is the safety net of Butch. But there are no flies on Mark.

 

[FullyERicht]

Who wouldn't take Patterson or D'Antonio?

Most people assume they are longshots. And while I believe this is the best job in the country to win national championships, they probably are longshots. Butch gets talked about more because he's more realistic.

Bc there are people who legitimately prefer Butch Davis to those cats. Who are so obsessed with Davis that they refuse to acknowledge any other coach.

My opinion is this: if you aren't gonna to get a homerun, why bother? Anything less than a quick turnaround is going to become incredibly toxic here. Our players deserve better. The Miami fanbase deserves better.

I am one who thinks we need Butch to rebuild THE U for a ton of reasons other than coaching. This team is too full of golden bs for a quick turnaround. That said, D'Antonio is one I would take without complaint. I am tired of hearing Patterson's name. If he was leaving TCU it needed to be done. But Mark would be interesting and possible alternative to Butch. We still do not know if he can handle Miami and recruit anywhere like Butch. If he can, then he is the man that can take our talent and put an end to all the NEW offenses.

I was at the Cotton Bowl, that was NFL level defense. Imagine Sonny coaching the talent Butch left Larry. You might not know it but you made the case for Butch many of us believe. His recruiting as HC was so great coaching almost didn't matter. 1991 team still needed some. That is the safety net of Butch. But there are no flies on Mark.

So your argument is that great coaching is the difference between the best defense in our history and a lesser defense? I think you are making my point.

And by the way.......

If ANYONE EVER tells you we should take Texas' trash again, show them this video, and remind them unkindly that we OWN Texas.

 

[DMoney]

Who wouldn't take Patterson or D'Antonio?

Most people assume they are longshots. And while I believe this is the best job in the country to win national championships, they probably are longshots. Butch gets talked about more because he's more realistic.

Bc there are people who legitimately prefer Butch Davis to those cats. Who are so obsessed with Davis that they refuse to acknowledge any other coach.

My opinion is this: if you aren't gonna to get a homerun, why bother? Anything less than a quick turnaround is going to become incredibly toxic here. Our players deserve better. The Miami fanbase deserves better.

We should definitely try for the home run. It costs us nothing to ask.

But Miami has never actually had a home-run hire. You can still win with the right guy.

 

[Dwinstitles]

Who wouldn't take Patterson or D'Antonio?

Most people assume they are longshots. And while I believe this is the best job in the country to win national championships, they probably are longshots. Butch gets talked about more because he's more realistic.

And im sorry but those two cant recruit likw butch over in sfla

 

[mwcane31]

Who wouldn't take Patterson or D'Antonio?

Most people assume they are longshots. And while I believe this is the best job in the country to win national championships, they probably are longshots. Butch gets talked about more because he's more realistic.

And im sorry but those two cant recruit likw butch over in sfla

I could go out and recruit to Miami! The canes need someone that can coach those kids up!

Who's to say that Patterson can't recruit like Butch.

 

[OBLIVION]

Who wouldn't take Patterson or D'Antonio?

Most people assume they are longshots. And while I believe this is the best job in the country to win national championships, they probably are longshots. Butch gets talked about more because he's more realistic.

And im sorry but those two cant recruit likw butch over in sfla

Butch can recruit, but them 2 dudes can actually coach.