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Tried for 2 days to explain Nebraska’s situation, folks believe What they choose to believe the facts don’t matter
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Dumbest thing I’ve ever seen! There fvcked and they know it and they’re grasping at straws now! Lmao you can see the desperation from them, well you reap what you sow. So get ready to not have football for a year up north and out west and if you do put together a makeshift BS spring season, get ready to not have any of your best players compete as they’ll be preparing for the draft. Lol bed made, now proceed to lay in it!
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About the pac 12 and the Big Ten nobody has answered this question: what happens if the fall season for the ACCSEC and big 12 goes off without a hitch and the crown a national champion? Will the pac 12 and Big Ten still play their spring season even though it doesn't mean anything? Personally think they will cancel and go right into spring football
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Here let me help you along. Ohio State is a state school, the Governor of Ohio is Mike DeWine The “big wigs” in Cbus are far from liberal if that is what you are hinting. Now here are some facts from inside the room at the Bug 10 meeting, Cliff notes version. Fall in the Midwest is promising a spike in virus cases according to multiple experts at multiple Big 10 institutions and at the end of the day, this was the deciding factor. This has nothing to do with politics, I promise you. I have said for the last 6 weeks Big 10 football was a huge ? No school president is turning their back on 120 million in revenue over politics. Hate to tell you, if you think football in the other 3 power 5 conferences is a given, it’s not. There are tons of moving parts and if one or two stop moving.......
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Games in February-April in Chicago, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan etc.
With kids who are not conditioned and trying to get back into football shape after such a long layoff.
What could possibly go wrong???????
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They would probably do like the old days and just say "All we care about is our Conference Championship and the Rose Bowl. Every Kid dreams of winning the Rose Bowl."
Then play some sort of cheap imitation game in Pasadena.
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you don’t Even put forth an argument to comprehend. I’ve told you 20 times why the NCAA isn’t getting involved in cfb Scheduling specifically, because the conferences have the contracts, Not the NCAA. I’ve also told you that as a “governing body“, their main role is to make the rules to preserve the amateur model, not tell the conferences how to operate which could cost them millions. The conferences also aren’t obligated to do the same as other conferences, so they are going to make their own choices. Nothing unanimous was going to be decided anyway, so why waste time trying to get 70 presidents to agree on one path forward. with The unknowns and differing medical opinions, if a conference wants to play, they’ll find a doctor or review board that says it’s ok to play, Because even the medical field is split on what is safe and what’s not...though I’m sure the NCAA could Get them all to agree right?
And ESPN, nfl network and cbs radio agree with you? oh Shyit, you are Definitely right then. You forgot to drop the mic after that one...
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The ACC medical group is headed by the guy at Duke who's head of infectious diseases, etc. Everyone seems to have a lot of confidence in him.
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Looks like UAB intends to play...
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good read here, since ESPN is credible to you.
The state of college football leadership in 2020: The NCAA, a commissioner and more
With the college football landscape in disarray and the NCAA's leadership called into question, what answers are out there for the future of college football? Centralized leadership? Congressional interference? Let's discuss.
couple quotes for you:
" The sport is run by the commissioners of the Power 5 conferences. It has been thus since the mid-1980s, when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against the NCAA and returned television rights back to the schools. They in turn assigned their rights to the conferences. The commissioners wield that power, and very few people in life give up power willingly."
" The NCAA lost what grip it had on college football when the Supreme Court ruled against it. This is really a different way of asking the same question. The NCAA derives its power from its members, who have shown little willingness to give the organization any say-so over college football."
" Throughout this entire mess, I have been continually surprised at how few people understand (cough @Rellyrell cough) how the NCAA actually works. The NCAA is 100% run by its membership. Go to their website and scroll through the rosters of its endless committees. The NCAA's only job is to be stewards of whatever those committees hand them, from compliance to the football rule book to transfer rules. The NCAA's self-written job description reads: "The 500 employees at the NCAA's Indianapolis headquarters interpret and support member legislation ..." That legislation is either written or signed off on by the university presidents
Man, I wish I could think of the person who has been saying this exact same thing on CIS for days....
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I’ve been waiting for you to reply to this:good read here, since ESPN is credible to you.
The state of college football leadership in 2020: The NCAA, a commissioner and more
With the college football landscape in disarray and the NCAA's leadership called into question, what answers are out there for the future of college football? Centralized leadership? Congressional interference? Let's discuss.www.espn.com
couple quotes for you:
" The sport is run by the commissioners of the Power 5 conferences. It has been thus since the mid-1980s, when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against the NCAA and returned television rights back to the schools. They in turn assigned their rights to the conferences. The commissioners wield that power, and very few people in life give up power willingly."
" The NCAA lost what grip it had on college football when the Supreme Court ruled against it. This is really a different way of asking the same question. The NCAA derives its power from its members, who have shown little willingness to give the organization any say-so over college football."
" Throughout this entire mess, I have been continually surprised at how few people understand (cough @Rellyrell cough) how the NCAA actually works. The NCAA is 100% run by its membership. Go to their website and scroll through the rosters of its endless committees. The NCAA's only job is to be stewards of whatever those committees hand them, from compliance to the football rule book to transfer rules. The NCAA's self-written job description reads: "The 500 employees at the NCAA's Indianapolis headquarters interpret and support member legislation ..." That legislation is either written or signed off on by the university presidents
Man, I wish I could think of the person who has been saying this exact same thing on CIS for days....
I think u misunderstand where I’m coming from.
So let me take u back down memory lane on how u inserted urself into this:
1. I stated who gives af on what the NCAA will & will not allow (this was in regards to transfers). I stated how they’ve been exposed butt nekkid as to what power they wield.
Your response was that you are sure my “tough talk” depleted the NCAA of its position & power. (Lol) You then compared the NCAA to Trump, stating that just b/c Trump has allowed states, recently, to handle things doesn’t mean he doesn’t have power.
You further doubled down in this analogy by saying and I quote: “Just b/c the NCAA didn’t WIELD ITS POWER on the football season, doesn’t mean it doesn’t have it.” You then used the cancellation of the NCAA tourney as a cited example of said power. You then likened their scholarship limitations as said power.
2. Our point wasn’t the NCAA being some sort of dictatorship, nor was I or anyone else saying what the NCAA can & can’t do, something u continue to harp on. The point was the NCAA has had this farce of this unified coalition that it governs. Everyone knows each conference is ran a little different, just like each state is ran a little different, since you wanted to bring politics as an example. But we are still the U.S.A (emphasis on the United portion of our countries name).
The NCAA and it’s members have been touting this for well over 100 yrs. Now, we see clearly have this is not true.
3. My point was, if the NCAA is indeed the governing body, then 5 months ago, they could’ve acted as such and got together with conference commissioners and formulated game planS on how to either work this out for a fall season, a delayed fall season, or just not having a season.
Instead, they twiddled their thumbs and each conference followed the same lead, and when chit got closer & closer with no end in sight w/ this virus, scramble mode has taken place which has now led to anarchy and disarray.
If u don’t think the NCAA could’ve mitigated this, u’re a buffoon. This has nothing to do w/ what power the NCAA wields and won’t wield; the NCAA is supposed to be an organization that is a governing body on intercollegiate sports. Key word of the prefix, ORGANIZE. Between its inconsistencies of the rules it imposes, and now this, my point is the NCAA has shown anything as to bring organize.
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Me? Because I've been saying the NCAA is powerless over P5 for a long time. It's a puppet organization when it comes to P5 football.good read here, since ESPN is credible to you.
The state of college football leadership in 2020: The NCAA, a commissioner and more
With the college football landscape in disarray and the NCAA's leadership called into question, what answers are out there for the future of college football? Centralized leadership? Congressional interference? Let's discuss.
couple quotes for you:
" The sport is run by the commissioners of the Power 5 conferences. It has been thus since the mid-1980s, when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against the NCAA and returned television rights back to the schools. They in turn assigned their rights to the conferences. The commissioners wield that power, and very few people in life give up power willingly."
" The NCAA lost what grip it had on college football when the Supreme Court ruled against it. This is really a different way of asking the same question. The NCAA derives its power from its members, who have shown little willingness to give the organization any say-so over college football."
" Throughout this entire mess, I have been continually surprised at how few people understand (cough @Rellyrell cough) how the NCAA actually works. The NCAA is 100% run by its membership. Go to their website and scroll through the rosters of its endless committees. The NCAA's only job is to be stewards of whatever those committees hand them, from compliance to the football rule book to transfer rules. The NCAA's self-written job description reads: "The 500 employees at the NCAA's Indianapolis headquarters interpret and support member legislation ..." That legislation is either written or signed off on by the university presidents
Man, I wish I could think of the person who has been saying this exact same thing on CIS for days....
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The ncaa is just like Goodell in the nfl. They both make their money taking bullets for the people they work for. You always hear how bad the ncaa is and how bad the commissioner is. Rarely is it the owners and the colleges.
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That's exactly what it is. The NCAA is not an independent organization. The NCAA does what the member organizations tell it to do just like Goodell does what the NFL owners tell him to do. They're figurehead puppets put in place to take bullets and make it appear that the colleges and NFL teams are independently governed by some impartial organization when, in fact, they're fully self-governed.
I was told they were really ****ed that Emmert canceled the tournament in March without even consulting them. He actually did something without his puppet masters telling him to and they didn't like it.
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That NCAA basketball tournament is about the last thing Emmert has any juice with.
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I don’t misunderstand your position when you blindly bash the NCAA BY saying they aren’t doing their job because they haven’t led the conferences to adopt a single model or process, so they either all play or don’t play. I replied By saying it’s not their job because its the conferences money and they aren’t going to allow the NCAA to dictTe what they do, which was echoed in the article, that the NCAA is empowered by the conferences, it doesn’t have authoritarian power (dictatorship was my other analogy). As I said in another post, there is no reason for the conferences to meet and try to align With each other because they are each goi g to do what is best for them, which is what has happened. They don’t have to take into account how playing fall might impact other conference because they have the autonomy to make their own decision, and obligations as well with the tv contractS. the medical Community is split on what is safe and so each conference is going to do what they want and find a medical expert to support that, or just “interpret” the data the way They want to, which has also happened. I have also repeatedly said that the NCAA sole job as a “governing body”, something you equate with power over everything, is to make and Interpret rules, which was also stated in the article. You take these labels the NCAA has as literal, organization and governing, when they’re not. they Are an organization to the extent that 130 Fbs schools follow the same rules, not that it’s their job or They have power to Exert influence on the schools outside Of the power they were GIVeN by the schools and conferences. And to put it bluntly for you again, the NCAA couldn’t have mitigated this mess because The conferences didn’t ask them to!!!!!! The NCAA doesn’t have that power because the conferences didn’t give it to them. had the NCAA tried to interject, the conferences could have and would have told them to F off. It takes them three years to hand down sanctions on 10 kids accepting illegal benefits and you think they could have solved this whole Covid situation and get 70 schools to come to some sort of unified agreement?....ok
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