So Rad said in his interview, getting out of Grant of Rights is impossible road..

[Robbymoto]

So who does the ACC try and add? Oregon, Washington, ??? Sorry if this is in another post.
We are stuck for a while, so how do we grow the ACC?

Forget politics and red tape for a minute.

We literally cannot afford to stay in this conference. It would cripple the athletic department financially and become a major obstacle to recruiting. We will not survive in this Arms Race making $30M while other teams are making $75-100M.

The acc is dead.

 

[kryptonite]

I hate this **** conference.

Not only is the Tobacco Rd mafia corrupt, they’re ****** idiots too.

Any conference will hate us and ***** us over as much as they can, but at least we could be getting paid while they do it.

 

[The U is back to work]

I genuinely can’t believe how badly John Skipper bent over the ACC in these negotiations.

 

[KANE]

CIS: “Rad needs to say, ‘We out dis bytch’!…. Now!

 

[GojiraCane]

Yeah Cuddy; I would feel a lot better if they were corrupt Lucky Luciano or Al Capone style, not Peter Gotti style. Lol

Or the Wet Bandits.

 

[Yoyo423]

I'm honestly surprised he addressed the Grant of rights at all.... Seems counterproductive..

 

[Hold My Beer]

Five years from now, we'll still be in the ACC,
FSU, Clemson gone.
Silver lining, we will be a yearly contender for the Coastal Title..

 

[Rickd]

Five years from now, we'll still be in the ACC,
FSU, Clemson gone.
Silver lining, we will be a yearly contender for the Coastal Title..

Troll comment for sure. It has been clearly stated by people with actual knowledge of what is going on that Clemson and UM are working together on the eventual exit strategy. Even plugged in media guys like Dan Patrick was clear in his comments that those that would leave the ACC first (due to being valued by the SEC and the BIG) would be Clemson, Miami, FSU, and UNC. If anyone is bailing UM is part of the deal.

 

[BostonCanes47]

There is a less than 1% chance the ACC looks the way it currently does in the next 4 years. Miami is hopefully leaving or teams will be added. Way more probable that we leave. ACC cannot be saved to the point that it can respectfully compete with the Big 10 and SEC

 

[Hold My Beer]

I genuinely can’t believe how badly John Skipper bent over the ACC in these negotiations.

ESPN's execs knew they just needed to get the small-minded ACC commissioner on board and a signed agreement would be a cakewalk.

John Swofford's only concerns were keeping "his" conference intact and making sure Raycom (and thus his son) were secure.

The presidents didn't (and still don't) know **** about the business of athletics — and why would they? Very few of them from come from that realm.

Truthfully, the AD's (including DanRad) were caught with their pants down and allowed their bosses to rubber stamp a deal that was great for ESPN and the ACC's lightweight programs but terrible for those schools with serious aspirations in football.

The AD's did a lousy job of looking down the road — and, to be fair, so did whole lot of people in College Sports besides those at ESPN.

The B1G's upcoming 7-year deal spread across three over-the-air networks and its own BTN is a template for how things can be done once the school presidents understand their own value and allow a commissioner with an NFL background to execute his plan.

 

[canes1996]

Or the Wet Bandits.

Excellent reference.

 

[troyskiles]

Where is this fantasy loophole people are referring to? A pipe dream.

That idiot Swafford phucked us and then bounced. He put the conference in a ****** deal. He left so he wouldn't have to face the music and his successor doesn't have to take the blame.

Although Phillips has already phucked things up by voting NO to have conference champions as automatic qualifiers to the CFP. The he had that ridiculous tirade at the ACC Football media days.

THIS!!! What is this mysterious loophole y'all are talking about and agreeing with. Please update us on that or you really know nothing.

 

[Hold My Beer]

Troll comment for sure. It has been clearly stated by people with actual knowledge of what is going on that Clemson and UM are working together on the eventual exit strategy. Even plugged in media guys like Dan Patrick was clear in his comments that those that would leave the ACC first (due to being valued by the SEC and the BIG) would be Clemson, Miami, FSU, and UNC. If anyone is bailing UM is part of the deal.

Be pretty surprised if it's not Miami, the semenholes and Clemson "jointly" leading the exit plan

 

[Hold My Beer]

What is this mysterious loophole y'all are talking about and agreeing with. Please update us on that or you really know nothing.

I'm guessing fear of an oncoming annual media rights shortfall of $50M compared to their D1 peers will spark all kinds of legal tactics and backroom dealing to avoid falling hopelessly behind.

Some folks — as is their right — choose to believe our favorite program is ****ed and there's nothing anybody can do about this situation but bend over and take it.

Others among us figure that the schools with the most juice in the ACC — Miami included — will find a way out of this ****ty deal, likely in conjunction with ESPN and the SEC.

 

[Hold My Beer]

Forget politics and red tape for a minute.

We literally cannot afford to stay in this conference. It would cripple the athletic department financially and become a major obstacle to recruiting. We will not survive in this Arms Race making $30M while other teams are making $75-100M.

The acc is dead.

You should copy and paste this every single day til we're out

 

[Rickd]

THIS!!! What is this mysterious loophole y'all are talking about and agreeing with. Please update us on that or you really know nothing.

Seems like the current ACC agreement is kept under lock and key. I did listen to a podcast a couple of months ago where one journalist was being interviewed ... he had the ORIGINAL ACC Agreement (a 4 page document) and the NEW agreement (a 26 page document) that was part of the new contract with ESPN committing to launching the ACC Network and included the extension of the GOR to 2034. HIS comment was that ... the way he read the agreement it was not IRON CLAD but rather MALLEABLE ... due to having a clause that referenced COMPARABLE REVENUE TO SIMILAR PROGRAMS IN OTHER CONFERENCES. It was his belief in reading that contract that there WAS wiggle room for the top programs in the conference to either dramatically renegotiate the exit and GOR clauses ... or outright declare them VOID. At the end of the day it is a contract with terms and conditions ... and terms and conditions generally have some ability to be restructured when there is a clear cut reason. If we are looking at a $50 million dollar or more revenue differential there is basis for litigation ... especially if that clause is real.

 

[ItsMeD]

You can always get out of a contract. The only real issue is how costly will it be for you to get out and if it's worth it. Based on the amount of money the Big10 teams are getting, and presumably, the SEC will get, it is likely costlier to stay in the ACC than not. Teams will leave.

There are millions of dollars at the table for schools and billions overall at stake for the conferences. You work on these deals in the shadows. I would not expect any AD to say anything other than they cannot get out or that they are staying.

 

[Tad Footeball]

I genuinely can’t believe how badly John Skipper bent over the ACC in these negotiations.

Funny thing (not for us) is that Skipper trying that with the B1G is essentially a major reason they just cashed in now and are in the prime spot that they are.

Skipper lowballed them last time and massively ****ed off Jim Delaney. Delaney, seeing the financial trends of CFB and not being a panicked jacka$$ like Swofford, basically said f-you and only agreed to a short term deal thus allowing his conference to break the bank today as we seek legal loopholes and covert alliances just to get out of our deal.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Just hopefully UNC is willing to GTFO, cause I think they are the most structural member of the ACC. If they go its over.

I think at minimum they're the domino of all the Carolina schools. If they actually grow a pair then they'd cause a chain reaction that could easily and quickly kill the conference.

 

[Hold My Beer]

Funny thing (not for us) is that Skipper trying that with the B1G is essentially a major reason they just cashed in now and are in the prime spot that they are.

Skipper lowballed them last time and massively ****ed off Jim Delaney. Delaney, seeing the financial trends of CFB and not being a panicked jacka$$ like Swofford, basically said f-you and only agreed to a short term deal thus allowing his conference to break the bank today as we seek legal loopholes and covert alliances just to get out of our deal.

Now flash forward a few years and Kevin Warren (Delany's protege) and FOX have — in conjunction with CBS and NBC — taken ESPN to the woodshed.

The B1G will have a better deal than ESPN: more dollars and greater exposure across a wider variety of over-the-air networks — and, to top things off, it ends four years before the SEC gets back to the negotiating table.

ESPN's gonna be caught between scrambling to keep the lid on the ACC pot and soothing the egos of SEC officials and AD's who want to know why their league is no longer making the most money.