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So let me get this straight

TheOriginalCane said:
Every. Single. Year. BYU is the "older" football team. They still don't go undefeated like Indiana just did.

It's more than age. It's more than "Cignetti is a good coach". It's certainly more than "they are more prepared" when they have the exact same NCAA limitations on practice time.

Indiana. Is. Cheating. There's no other way to say it.

They are talented and well-coached on fundamentals and they would have won a lot of games without the cheating.

But they wouldn't have won all of the games.
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Yup. Let's also not forget that recruiting old players was Bill Snyder's model at Kansas State for decades. And yeah, while they had a bunch of 10 and 11 win seasons, they never looked like the machine Indiana was, nor won a natty.

So Cigarette is able to take the worst program in the history of the P4 (literally), work less hours than is the norm, have the lowest blue chip ratio by an overwhelming amount (under 10% - the next lowest was Michigan in the 50's and we know they cheated), and not only win a natty but go undefeated.

Lollllllllllllllllll
 
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McGahee2TheHouse said:
Yup. Let's also not forget that recruiting old players was Bill Snyder's model at Kansas State for decades. And yeah, while they had a bunch of 10 and 11 win seasons, they never looked like the machine Indiana was, nor won a natty.

So Cigarette is able to take the worst program in the history of the P4 (literally), work less hours than is the norm, have the lowest blue chip ratio by an overwhelming amount (under 10% - the next lowest was Michigan in the 50's and we know they cheated), and not only win a natty but go undefeated.

Lollllllllllllllllll
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Let's not forget "common opponent":

Indiana beat Ohio Taint by 3 (in the state of Indiana)
Miami beat Ohio Taint by 10 (in Dallas)
 
Calinative said:
Or the person trying to change the play was always the guy with the green dot and was just getting the info from the coaching staff
And maybe the coaching staff has a lot of playbooks and play history and uses AI to recognize patterns….
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Sure!!!! Except the green dot loses communication at 15 seconds. They often would switch looks under 10
 
We discussed this the week before the game. It was up to Dawson to deal with it. There is no way the coaching staff didn’t hear the same rumors.

This is why I have always been a fan of running the I formation with a TE or 3 wide.
You can run 40 plays out of the same formation.

Read that with film, AI or with a stolen playbook.
 
drewm3i said:
We will find out eventually IMO.
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Here is the answer, if anything illegal happened it will come up years later. It's like low key I expect it cause it happened to the team I love on the biggest stage. I would dead *** be shocked if nothing happened. I just feel like when people start talking about something like this you find out like 8 years later that it was true. But it never can change what happened.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Think about this.

We called a dummy play. ONE guy on Indiana figured out what we were actually going to do, and he TRIED to tell the other 10 guys.

You know how you can figure out that his warning fell on deaf ears? BECAUSE IT WENT FOR A 57 YARD TOUCHDOWN. Our first TD.

Anyone who thinks Indiana DID NOT have our plays is just fooling themselves.

"Well-coached". "Well-prepared". These are Indiana synonyms for "having the other team's offensive playbook".

It sucks, but it's true.
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Well now ...
 
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