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BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
I didn't say that, nor did I imply that. However I did clearly imply that being in the B1G and $EC gets preferential treatment, right or wrong, based on the graphic.

You can fell free to do a few things too....starting with learning that not everything in life is either/or. Nuance is real. I don't understand why so many people do this false dichotomy thing, but it's everywhere and your response was an excellent illustration.

Have a nice day.
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So if you agree that the schedules are not comparable, then you agree that the o/u win totals are not comparable lol have a nice day indeed
 
8-4 floor?


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ALLoverCANE said:
But even taking that into account, those conferences are dramatically better than the ACC. Hence, the preseason win totals are not comparable.
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Dramatically better? What does that mean? That's the sort of hyperbole and unmeasurable exaggeration that has gotten CFB to this point. Why do we even play the games? Why not just do beauty pageants? Those two conferences are doing everything they can to horde the power, while doing all they can to push away any other conferences. That's the issue I have. When I see mid-tier $EC schools canceling non-conference games with non-scrub teams, that's a problem. When I see "good" losses counting more than "mediocre" wins, I see a problem.

If you think that the $EC and B1G should be entitled to more playoff spots because they say they're the best conferences and the media slurps it into existence, so be it. We can agree to disagree. However, don't twist what I wrote into something it wasn't Simple stuff, no?
 
Canes roll 38-10 and DJ Dingleberry announces plans to transfer to UCF in the post game presser
 
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
Dramatically better? What does that mean? That's the sort of hyperbole and unmeasurable exaggeration that has gotten CFB to this point. Why do we even play the games? Why not just do beauty pageants? Those two conferences are doing everything they can to horde the power, while doing all they can to push away any other conferences. That's the issue I have. When I see mid-tier $EC schools canceling non-conference games with non-scrub teams, that's a problem. When I see "good" losses counting more than "mediocre" wins, I see a problem.

If you think that the $EC and B1G should be entitled to more playoff spots because they say they're the best conferences and the media slurps it into existence, so be it. We can agree to disagree. However, don't twist what I wrote into something it wasn't Simple stuff, no?
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Incredible goal post shifting lol

Anyways, seems like you agree they're better and therefore the o/u doesn't mean anything lol have a nice day
 
ALLoverCANE said:
It's an analytics site.

But feel free to believe that ACC schedules are the same as SEC schedules LOL
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Nobody is ******* saying that the schedules are "the same".

We are pointing out the ridiculous bull**** fallacy as to having 2 or 3 games worth of difference for making the playoffs. And if you can't see that, you are blind as a bat.

I (and most of the rest of the college football fanbase) could live with an 10-win SEC team getting the nod over an 11-win Big 12 team. Or a 9-win SEC team getting the nod over a 10-win ACC team.

But for an 8-win SEC team (and Florida was in that list of magical 8-win teams) to get the nod over an 11-win Pitt or K-State team is absolute BULL****.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Nobody is ******* saying that the schedules are "the same".

We are pointing out the ridiculous bull**** fallacy as to having 2 or 3 games worth of difference for making the playoffs. And if you can't see that, you are blind as a bat.

I (and most of the rest of the college football fanbase) could live with an 10-win SEC team getting the nod over an 11-win Big 12 team. Or a 9-win SEC team getting the nod over a 10-win ACC team.

But for an 8-win SEC team (and Florida was in that list of magical 8-win teams) to get the nod over an 11-win Pitt or K-State team is absolute BULL****.
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Depends on the team. Idk what Pitt or KSU's schedules look like. A 2-3 win differential wouldn't be unreasonable for the hardest SEC schedule vs the easiest ACC schedule.

In any case, UF has a brutal schedule hence their low o/u.
 
Unsurprisingly, Vegas seems to have this spot on. 7-5 or 8-4 most likely. 6 win floor (Lagway injury), 9 win ceiling (Lagway balls out).

Most likely wins: LIU, USF, Miss St, Kentucky, FSU
Most likely losses: LSU, Texas, UGA
Toss up: Miami, A&M, Ole Miss, Tenn

Hypothetically, lets say they split the toss-ups (beat Ole Miss/Tenn), and then upset UGA. 8-4.

Signature wins: UGA, Ole Miss, Tenn

That's one top 10 win, and two fringe top 25 wins. I don't see how that justifies them getting into the playoffs with 4 losses.
 
ALLoverCANE said:
Incredible goal post shifting lol

Anyways, seems like you agree they're better and therefore the o/u doesn't mean anything lol have a nice day
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You are an uneducated dunce looking to pick a fight. Period. You haven't responded to the actual content of anything I've written....and while you're feeling puzzled at that last part, it's simply because you're not smart. You know, stupid as the country folk like to say. I see what you're doing with more than just me on this thread. Go find an $EC team's message board and you can get yourself all aroused over how wonderful they are. You're gas lighting me when you said I'm the one shifting the goal posts. Speaking of shift, you clearly have shift for brains.

PS. My ex-girlfriends argued more rationally than you do.
 
ALLoverCANE said:
They beat good LSU and Ole Miss teams, blew out inferior opponents, and were competitive with UGA and Tenn. They played very well the last couple of months of the season.
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This is the absolute bull**** of all bull****.

1. Beat "good" LSU and Ole Miss teams? No, this is the traditional Human Centipede/SEC nonsense. LSU started the season "ranked". And they play in the SEC, thus all of their "wins" are "quality wins" and all of their "losses" are "quality losses". So let's make this simple: THE ONLY RANKED-AT-THE-TIME TEAM THAT LSU BEAT ALL YEAR WAS OLE MISS. Period. Not even debatable. An absolute fact. AND THE ONLY RANKED-AT-THE-TIME TEAM THAT OLE MISS BEAT ALL YEAR WAS GEORGIA. So you are bragging about these life-affirming program-milestone victories by Florida when all they did was to beat an 8-win regular season team and a 9-win regular season team who, BETWEEN THEM, only had 2 victories over ranked-at-the-time opponents (AND ONE OF THEM WAS AGAINST THE OTHER ONE). Good lord, bootstrap much?!

2. "Blew out infererior opponents"? What in the actual **** are you talking about? First, the Gator STRUGGLED with UCF (in Hogtown). Next, nobody disputes the blowout against SAMFORD. But here are the numbers at the beginning of the 4th quarter for those other "blowouts":
---14 point lead on Mississippi State
---14 point lead on Kentucky
---TIED with LSU
---TIED with Ole Miss
---14 point lead on F$U
---16 point lead on Tulane
What that means is that every single Gator "blowout" in the SEC, or with F$U, or in the bowl game WAS IN DOUBT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 4TH QUARTER. There was no turnaround. before the last 4 games. The Gators were still struggling to score and posting a ****** defense as well UNTIL THE LAST FOUR GAMES. That's the point where the defense came alive. That is indisputable.

3. "Competitive with UGa and Tennessee". This is the last refuge of the damned. Oh good lord, they LOST but but but they were COMMMMPETITIVE. Get the **** out of here with that nonsense. Losing 99-98 does not mean you have turned the corner, it means your DEFENSE SUCKS. Losing 10-9 does not mean you have turned the corner, it means your OFFENSE SUCKS. So let's think about this. Florida scored SEVENTEEN against Tennessee and TWENTY against Georgia. And in the little 4-game winning streak, Florida scored 27, 24, 31, and 38. SO AT NO TIME IN THESE "COMPETITIVE" GAMES was the Florida offense as prolific as it was during the 4-game winning streak. Now let's look at the defense. Florida gave up 23 to Tennessee (17 in regulation) and 34 to Georgia. Meanwhile, during the 4-game winning streak, Florida gave up 16, 17, 11, and 8. In other words, in your "competitive games", the Florida offense was NOT AS GOOD as it was during the 4-game winning streak, and the Florida defense was NOT AS GOOD as it was during the 4-game winning streak. So, NO NO NO, the "competitive games" mean NOTHING as far as a "turnaround".

Just admit it, you bought into the "Florida mid-season turnaround" myth, and no amount of evidence or statistics or truth will allow you to change your mind at this late date.
 
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ALLoverCANE said:
Depends on the team. Idk what Pitt or KSU's schedules look like. A 2-3 win differential wouldn't be unreasonable for the hardest SEC schedule vs the easiest ACC schedule.

In any case, UF has a brutal schedule hence their low o/u.
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Hey, dip****-argument boy, it's not about "what Pitt or KSU's schedules look like".

I QUOTED THE CHART, GENIUS. The one that YOU posted. Did you even bother to look at it?

This chart is saying that before a game is even played, Florida is 3 games better than Pitt or K-State. Florida can win 8 games and make the playoffs, but Pitt and K-State need to win 11.

And for the record, the chart is saying that Florida is 3 games better than NINE of the teams in the ACC. Florida could under-perform any of those 9 schools by THREE GAMES and still be in the "same" conversation for the playoffs.

It's insane.

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BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
You are an uneducated dunce looking to pick a fight. Period. You haven't responded to the actual content of anything I've written....and while you're feeling puzzled at that last part, it's simply because you're not smart. You know, stupid as the country folk like to say. I see what you're doing with more than just me on this thread. Go find an $EC team's message board and you can get yourself all aroused over how wonderful they are. You're gas lighting me when you said I'm the one shifting the goal posts. Speaking of shift, you clearly have shift for brains.

PS. My ex-girlfriends argued more rationally than you do.
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Lmaoooo

Amazing stuff. Complete capitulation by you.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Hey, dip****-argument boy, it's not about "what Pitt or KSU's schedules look like".

I QUOTED THE CHART, GENIUS. The one that YOU posted. Did you even bother to look at it?

This chart is saying that before a game is even played, Florida is 3 games better than Pitt or K-State. Florida can win 8 games and make the playoffs, but Pitt and K-State need to win 11.

And for the record, the chart is saying that Florida is 3 games better than NINE of the teams in the ACC. Florida could under-perform any of those 9 schools by THREE GAMES and still be in the "same" conversation for the playoffs.

It's insane.

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That's not at all what the chart is saying LOL my goodness, you guys are dense
 
TheOriginalCane said:
This is the absolute bull**** of all bull****.

1. Beat "good" LSU and Ole Miss teams? No, this is the traditional Human Centipede/SEC nonsense. LSU started the season "ranked". And they play in the SEC, thus all of their "wins" are "quality wins" and all of their "losses" are "quality losses". So let's make this simple: THE ONLY RANKED-AT-THE-TIME TEAM THAT LSU BEAT ALL YEAR WAS OLE MISS. Period. Not even debatable. An absolute fact. AND THE ONLY RANKED-AT-THE-TIME TEAM THAT OLE MISS BEAT ALL YEAR WAS GEORGIA. So you are bragging about these life-affirming program-milestone victories by Florida when all they did was to beat an 8-win regular season team and a 9-win regular season team who, BETWEEN THEM, only had 2 victories over ranked-at-the-time opponents (AND ONE OF THEM WAS AGAINST THE OTHER ONE). Good lord, bootstrap much?!

2. "Blew out infererior opponents"? What in the actual **** are you talking about? First, the Gator STRUGGLED with UCF (in Hogtown). Next, nobody disputes the blowout against SAMFORD. But here are the numbers at the beginning of the 4th quarter for those other "blowouts":
---14 point lead on Mississippi State
---14 point lead on Kentucky
---TIED with LSU
---TIED with Ole Miss
---14 point lead on F$U
---16 point lead on Tulane
What that means is that every single Gator "blowout" in the SEC, or with F$U, or in the bowl game WAS IN DOUBT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 4TH QUARTER. There was no turnaround. before the last 4 games. The Gators were still struggling to score and posting a ****** defense as well UNTIL THE LAST FOUR GAMES. That's the point where the defense came alive. That is indisputable.

3. "Competitive with UGa and Tennessee". This is the last refuge of the damned. Oh good lord, they LOST but but but they were COMMMMPETITIVE. Get the **** out of here with that nonsense. Losing 99-98 does not mean you have turned the corner, it means your DEFENSE SUCKS. Losing 10-9 does not mean you have turned the corner, it means your OFFENSE SUCKS. So let's think about this. Florida scored SEVENTEEN against Tennessee and TWENTY against Georgia. And in the little 4-game winning streak, Florida scored 27, 24, 31, and 38. SO AT NO TIME IN THESE "COMPETITIVE" GAMES was the Florida offense as prolific as it was during the 4-game winning streak. Now let's look at the defense. Florida gave up 23 to Tennessee (17 in regulation) and 34 to Georgia. Meanwhile, during the 4-game winning streak, Florida gave up 16, 17, 11, and 8. In other words, in your "competitive games", the Florida offense was NOT AS GOOD as it was during the 4-game winning streak, and the Florida defense was NOT AS GOOD as it was during the 4-game winning streak. So, NO NO NO, the "competitive games" mean NOTHING as far as a "turnaround".

Just admit it, you bought into the "Florida mid-season turnaround" myth, and no amount of evidence or statistics or truth will allow you to change your mind at this late date.
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Of course I'd be open to changing my mind if presented with a coherent argument, but the sensitive mouthbreathers in this thread haven't presented one.
 
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