Smart moves by Diaz...

[Atom Atlas]

You gamble with your head not your heart. He took calculated risks and it paid

You gamble with your head not your heart. He took calculated risks and it paid.

That's how you earn your money... Lol

 

[305407cane]

I can't speak for all the 'smart' decisions, but I've been seeing a lot of 4th and short conversions, and I like that. Get your one damned yard and move the chains.

We got stuffed so many times last year trying to line up and play big boy ball with a fullback. Enos thought we had Derrick Henry back there with the hogs redskins line and the 49ers fullback

 

[rsa coral gables]

He trusted the defense because he was calling the plays at the time.

The 57 yard FG and onside decisions were because he trusts Bo.

It wasn´t an onside kick. wrong. it was an attempted squib kick that ricocheted off of a NCSU player and took a favorable bounce towards burns. it was not an onside kick.

 

[CANEMC]

It wasn´t an onside kick. wrong. it was an attempted squib kick that ricocheted off of a NCSU player and took a favorable bounce towards burns. it was not an onside kick.

Whatever you call it. The decision was made by the coaches.

 

[Nmiamicane630]

To be fair if any of those calls didn’t go our way most on this board would probably rip him for them.
Coaches look like geniuses when risky calls go their way

 

[Hegemon]

this idea that it was a good decision for manny to take a FG from inside the 5 yard line down 7 points is crazy. he should have gone for it. "trusting the defense" based on what we saw in that game was far more risky than trying to score a TD from inside the 5. based on ESPN's win probability graph, that FG actually slightly *increased* NC state's chances of winning. if you "trust the defense" then you go for it because if you don't score then you're able to get the ball back at midfield w/ a 3 and out. instead we got the ball inside our own 15 and then were inside our own 10 after d'eriq's intentional grounding -- NC state flipped the field by 90 yards. again, this is bad. we had to put together a very long scoring drive to even take the lead. it worked out because our players made some amazing plays but the idea that it was some genius game management is just simply not correct. there's no statistical basis for the argument that he made the right decision -- if you think he did i encourage you to consider the idea that bad decisions can still work out. if you drive your car off of a cliff while not wearing a seatbelt but you don't die it doesn't mean you made the correct decision.

also he kicked plenty of short FGs last year -- he kicked from inside the 10 twice against UNC and GT. in a shocking development, we lost both games. getting that close to the end zone and taking FGs is typically a great way to lose games. it shouldn't be encouraged.

The same defense in the 4th quarter gave up 16 yards.

Context is important.

 

[Canes Brotherhood]

Misleading title. **** i thought he fired half his defensive staff. Carry on.

 

[supersaiyanshel]

Tactically, Diaz has actually made pretty good decisions as a HC. I can't really recall him making a horrendous call in terms of going for it on 4th down, fake punts, etc. Analytics is a huge part of it (and credit to Diaz -- he has at times gone AGAINST what the percentages have said) and we all know how Diaz is about the percentages.

It's the other parts of being a HC that give me pause with him. But credit where credit is due -- he has almost always made the correct calls game management wise.

 

[Billy D Williams]

I think the reality is that Manny, like many of us, has come to realize the very real limitations of our OL or you can say our offense in converting critical short yardage plays on 3rd and 4th downs.

 

[LoungeLord]

Manny is learning how to win as a coach as well as our plyers learning how to win tough games. I like Manny and I like our team.
All we can do is go 1-0 this week, that' all. Nothing else matters. We will judge this team again on Saturday. Do they pass the test or not.
I think we do, but it will be a battle. Looking forward to having Bloody Mary's starting at 10am thru the end of the game and hopefully, a cigar at the end (by halftime would be nice!). GO CANES!!!

Do you care if they again play like a steaming hot **** most of the game, but come back to pull out the win?

 

[powelkm]

Manny should be a CEO type of coach. Jimmy says he's intelligent so I expect him to make the right calls at crucial times. He's got decisions to make on the defensive side of the ball. Implement a better recruiting strategy and possibly replacing coaches with better coaches who demand engagement, effort, and discipline at all times. Our players play down to horrible competition and make every week painful. Manny needs to kill that culture.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

Am I missing something? We were down 7 and we kicked a FG. Manny was only kicking it bc of the false start. 99.9% of coaches would’ve done the same thing. If you got for it and don’t make it, the game is over if they score again. Its called extending the game. He had no choice but to kick it.

 

[Midlo Cane Fan]

this idea that it was a good decision for manny to take a FG from inside the 5 yard line down 7 points is crazy. he should have gone for it. "trusting the defense" based on what we saw in that game was far more risky than trying to score a TD from inside the 5. based on ESPN's win probability graph, that FG actually slightly *increased* NC state's chances of winning. if you "trust the defense" then you go for it because if you don't score then you're able to get the ball back at midfield w/ a 3 and out. instead we got the ball inside our own 15 and then were inside our own 10 after d'eriq's intentional grounding -- NC state flipped the field by 90 yards. again, this is bad. we had to put together a very long scoring drive to even take the lead. it worked out because our players made some amazing plays but the idea that it was some genius game management is just simply not correct. there's no statistical basis for the argument that he made the right decision -- if you think he did i encourage you to consider the idea that bad decisions can still work out. if you drive your car off of a cliff while not wearing a seatbelt but you don't die it doesn't mean you made the correct decision.

also he kicked plenty of short FGs last year -- he kicked from inside the 10 twice against UNC and GT. in a shocking development, we lost both games. getting that close to the end zone and taking FGs is typically a great way to lose games. it shouldn't be encouraged.

Shows what high and mighty ESPN knows and why you don't listen to their BS.

 

[ALLoverCANE]

That onside kick was a squib kick gone wrong (except right in this situation). Since NC state got a 15 yard penalty on the kickoff most teams will squib to take advantage of that. Since there is less field to cover the kicking team can reach the returners quickly so they squib it in hopes of getting them inside the 25, rather than a regular kick which would be a touchback.

If you look at the Borregales "onside kick" he is kicking it extremely hard and very much like a squib kick, nothing like the onside kicks he has done before. It just so happens that it hit one of the NC State players. But with the speed of the ball off the kick, even if it was on purpose, there was no chance that it would of worked more than 20% of the time. If they wanted to onside kick it they would of done their usual setup (in terms of speed and bounce, obviously not alignment)

A 20% success rate on an onside kick is really good. And the downside is much more limited compared to a regular onside kick. If the ball doesn't hit an NC St player, it bounces deep into their territory.

It was a great call.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

this idea that it was a good decision for manny to take a FG from inside the 5 yard line down 7 points is crazy. he should have gone for it. "trusting the defense" based on what we saw in that game was far more risky than trying to score a TD from inside the 5. based on ESPN's win probability graph, that FG actually slightly *increased* NC state's chances of winning. if you "trust the defense" then you go for it because if you don't score then you're able to get the ball back at midfield w/ a 3 and out. instead we got the ball inside our own 15 and then were inside our own 10 after d'eriq's intentional grounding -- NC state flipped the field by 90 yards. again, this is bad. we had to put together a very long scoring drive to even take the lead. it worked out because our players made some amazing plays but the idea that it was some genius game management is just simply not correct. there's no statistical basis for the argument that he made the right decision -- if you think he did i encourage you to consider the idea that bad decisions can still work out. if you drive your car off of a cliff while not wearing a seatbelt but you don't die it doesn't mean you made the correct decision.

also he kicked plenty of short FGs last year -- he kicked from inside the 10 twice against UNC and GT. in a shocking development, we lost both games. getting that close to the end zone and taking FGs is typically a great way to lose games. it shouldn't be encouraged.

This is wrong. If you go for it and don’t make you are still trusting your defense to get a stop. Kicking the field goal allows you give up a FG and still have a shot. You’re talking about a 15-18 yard difference. They get it on the 7 if we don’t score, compared to probably the 25 if we kick it. You aren’t even including the momentum swing they would’ve gotten after keeping us off the board from inside the 5.

Would you rather need a stop down 4 or a stop down 7? You kick it and extend the game. It was an easy decision, not some mastermind one.

 

[coffeecane]

this idea that it was a good decision for manny to take a FG from inside the 5 yard line down 7 points is crazy. he should have gone for it. "trusting the defense" based on what we saw in that game was far more risky than trying to score a TD from inside the 5. based on ESPN's win probability graph, that FG actually slightly *increased* NC state's chances of winning. if you "trust the defense" then you go for it because if you don't score then you're able to get the ball back at midfield w/ a 3 and out. instead we got the ball inside our own 15 and then were inside our own 10 after d'eriq's intentional grounding -- NC state flipped the field by 90 yards. again, this is bad. we had to put together a very long scoring drive to even take the lead. it worked out because our players made some amazing plays but the idea that it was some genius game management is just simply not correct. there's no statistical basis for the argument that he made the right decision -- if you think he did i encourage you to consider the idea that bad decisions can still work out. if you drive your car off of a cliff while not wearing a seatbelt but you don't die it doesn't mean you made the correct decision.

also he kicked plenty of short FGs last year -- he kicked from inside the 10 twice against UNC and GT. in a shocking development, we lost both games. getting that close to the end zone and taking FGs is typically a great way to lose games. it shouldn't be encouraged.

Turned out to be the right call. Give the guy some credit. If it didn't work out then tear him up. It was clearly the right call and it played out to perfection.

 

[Cryptical Envelopment]

-- The decision to let Borregales kick a 57-yard field goal vs Louisville
-- The onside kick vs NC State
-- Kicking a field goal in the fourth quarter inside the 10-yard line instead of going for a TD. Made the score 41-37. Trusted the D. We went ahead with a touchdown.

I don't remember those kinds of calls last year. Is he growing as a game day coach or is it a case of even a broken clock is right two times a day?

We have a D1 QB, a D1 K, a D1 RT, an improved OL, and a D1 offensive coaching staff. When you don't, nothing works.

 

[swampcougar1]

To be fair if any of those calls didn’t go our way most on this board would probably rip him for them.
Coaches look like geniuses when risky calls go their way

To be fair every play in the whole game in the ave fans minds was a good call if it worked and bad call if it did not work

 

[Kjdcanefan]

there was pressure on the defense either way to stop NC state and get the ball back. allowing them to get a FG isn't a win for the defense, it just means your offense has to go all the way back down the field again just to get a chance at a tying touchdown, with far less time on the clock.

stop for a second and think about what you're saying. their defense was having a tough time stopping our offense so... let's take the offense off the field to kick a 20 yard field goal? that doesn't make any sense. if you have confidence in your offense let them stay on the field and go for a touchdown.

also, no offense but it's funny to be posting under the name "apex predator" while defending kicking a field goal from inside the 5 yard line.

From another standpoint, our defense was having trouble stopping their O. IF we score 7, NC State goes into their 2 minute offense and has the chance to drive down and kick a FG. When they get the ball back with the lead, NC State uses their run out the clock O, not the aggressive O that was killing us early on. IDC about the hindsight analysis, so it really is moot. All I care about is the W and as weird as it was, we got the W.

 

[Liquidstoke]

This conversation is like “what if yesterday was rainy instead of sunny...what would I have made for dinner?”

The call took CAJONES and placed faith on his D to shut down NCS and for his O to score afterwards...

the amount of confidence the whole team got out of those last 5 minutes may propel this team to win out.

BALLS