SIAP: Beckham Stadium Update

[Gatorhater]

One of the most historic, if not most historic, football sites in the country, and now boys play with sticks and balls to be joined by girly boys in shorts running around being drama queens. May Joe Robbie, all Miami politicians, Donna the whale, the BOT, and The Orange Bowl Game Committee all rot in that place nobody wants to go. This entire thing is a crime. Heck, if I owned the NY Jets I would have wanted to buy the OB to keep the site of their ONLY Super Bowl victory.

Soccer is a very physical game. You're full of ****.

I am sure that is true, but have you ever been picked up off your feet and planted into the ground by a 300 lbs soccer player? Come on, girls play it, and not dressed in Victoria Secret clothing. Basketball is physical too. But in both cases we are talking tons of running with some pushing, shoving and occasional tripping. Are there high level skills required, sure. Old school book reading is physical too -- all that page turning. Okay, I am being a smart ***, but get real. There is more contact in the celebration after a TD in football than a whole game of soccer. Base ball is physical too but the collisions are not the actually object of the game, they are incidental. like soccer. Nobody talks about banning soccer, basketball, or baseball because they are too violent. Now maybe Irish Hurling and we could talk. That looks nasty.

My boys play both sports. Three things. First, soccer players run on average about 10-12 km per game. No one in football comes close to that. They also sprint quite a bit and are every bit as fast as football players. Second, they make sliding tackles trying to take the ball away, and many times that means someone taking out your knees (directly). Third, getting kicked in a soccer game causes serious damage.

The brain damage thing is all football. Now, that is just straight stupidity to feel happy about someone trying to take someone's head off.

Wow, you would think I sad something bad about Donna and brought out her family of defenders. I played football and never got hurt. It helps to be one of the big guys planting others. Then 40 years ago, I managed to wreck my knees chasing a frigging drop shot playing tennis(stupidly not on clay). Frigging Newton! Been putting of bi-lateral knee replacement for years now. Does this make tennis more physical than football. ****, I have been hurt worse during *** than football, now that is truly physical contact sport.

 

[drewm3i]

Stop talking about soccer. F*ck soccer. This thread is about our stadium situation, not soccer vs. football. With that said, it's a travesty that the OB was knocked down and it's an even bigger joke that a f*cking soccer and baseball stadium will now exist on the former site of one of the most historic pro and college football venues. My hope is this: I hope Beckham goes ahead with the stadium and I hope his MLS franchise is an UTTER failure, then, we can come in, expand his stadium and use it for the Canes in the future!

 

[TC7D]

Add 10,000 seats. That is all we'll need. I think for most of our games, even 35,000 would be sufficient. It might actually create some artificial demand for game day since tickets would be harder to come by.

That's as dumb as it comes. That's around 20k ticket sales revenue from this last game that wouldn't be sold with a 35k stadium. Look at the yearly ticket sale averages, you'd lose out on all of that too. This is when we suck, get good and those numbers increase.

Smaller stadium equals less revenue from luxury seating and boxes. So we play our big games at our current address, financially that doesn't make sense for either party (MLS or Phins) to allow that. If we're putting money in with MLS, even dumber.

This is a pipedream. MLS doesn't want anywhere close to the 50 to 55k minimum we'd need. People can try and point to corruption in Miami-Dade or our inept leaders, but this is a bad match all around. Only a dummy wouldn't see that and all parties are a mile apart.

I disagree. I'd bet you can charge more for seats in a smaller stadium - simple supply and demand. So you might not lose as much revenue as you think. I also think you could play bigger games (FSU, Clemson) at a bigger stadium (Sun Life) to capture that revenue. It doesn't matter because it won't happen with the current SLS lease and the way this thing is going, but there is no need to have 60,000+ seats for 30,000 fans. It looks horrendous on TV and draws a lot of comments from the national media. A full smaller stadium would also be a bigger draw for recruits than an empty cavern.

 

[TC7D]

Stop talking about soccer. F*ck soccer. This thread is about our stadium situation, not soccer vs. football. With that said, it's a travesty that the OB was knocked down and it's an even bigger joke that a f*cking soccer and baseball stadium will now exist on the former site of one of the most historic pro and college football venues. My hope is this: I hope Beckham goes ahead with the stadium and I hope his MLS franchise is an UTTER failure, then, we can come in, expand his stadium and use it for the Canes in the future!

Great post. MLS is a consistent failure, so there is a great chance of this happening.

 

[drewm3i]

Stop talking about soccer. F*ck soccer. This thread is about our stadium situation, not soccer vs. football. With that said, it's a travesty that the OB was knocked down and it's an even bigger joke that a f*cking soccer and baseball stadium will now exist on the former site of one of the most historic pro and college football venues. My hope is this: I hope Beckham goes ahead with the stadium and I hope his MLS franchise is an UTTER failure, then, we can come in, expand his stadium and use it for the Canes in the future!

Great post. MLS is a consistent failure, so there is a great chance of this happening.

Another reason it may fail is the people who like soccer probably can't afford to go to games. Who knows, maybe it will happen!? Build the stadium and let's go from there. UM is retarded for not getting in on this...

 

[TC7D]

Stop talking about soccer. F*ck soccer. This thread is about our stadium situation, not soccer vs. football. With that said, it's a travesty that the OB was knocked down and it's an even bigger joke that a f*cking soccer and baseball stadium will now exist on the former site of one of the most historic pro and college football venues. My hope is this: I hope Beckham goes ahead with the stadium and I hope his MLS franchise is an UTTER failure, then, we can come in, expand his stadium and use it for the Canes in the future!

Great post. MLS is a consistent failure, so there is a great chance of this happening.

Another reason it may fail is the people who like soccer probably can't afford to go to games. Who knows, maybe it will happen!? Build the stadium and let's go from there. UM is retarded for not getting in on this...

And I'm not sure that people that like soccer (a lot in Miami) care about MLS teams. They are more focused on their National Teams or leagues in their home countries. The biggest players in the world play in Europe, not in the US

 

[gogeta4]

wait ninjas in here really arguing about soccer vs football in physicality and skill. lmao....

lmao...

 

[UM 2001]

2 stadiums at the site of the OB and we don't play in either one HAAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

might actually have to switch teams. is that even possible? is there a real way to switch teams and have your heart invested in it because this program is DEAD. haven't watched 1 full game this year because there's always better games on at the same time. what a **** joke we have become.

 

[BigDikCane]

lol @ all of these soccer savages.

 

[mavericksouth]

Couldn't they add an additional 10k seats and hit our target of 40k seats? This is bulls**t. Why does the administration hate the football team so much? This is a golden opportunity and we just pass on it?!?!?!?!

 

[drewm3i]

2 stadiums at the site of the OB and we don't play in either one HAAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

might actually have to switch teams. is that even possible? is there a real way to switch teams and have your heart invested in it because this program is DEAD. haven't watched 1 full game this year because there's always better games on at the same time. what a **** joke we have become.

I agree. I wish I could pick another team...can't believe there's going to be a stadium for hockey, baseball, soccer, basketball (2), and we will be the only team without a dedicated stadium. Wow!

 

[dallascane]

Why is everyone being so irrational about this. So Beckham's MLS stadium will be too small to play in when it's finished. Newsflash... we'll still be in contract at SLS, so it doesn't really matter how big it is at ribbon cutting. He's not building a dome, it can always be expanded. The Orange Bowl was only 23k before the expanded it again and again and again until it was eventually 80k.

By 2022, UM will be working to renegotiate it's lease at SLS. We'll have proposals from the Dolphins and Beckham. Either Beckham will float an expansion on his own to attract the Hurricanes or MLS will have become so successful in south florida, he'll have already expanded the stadium beyond 30,000.

 

[TreOFive]

Soccer is a very physical game. You're full of ****.

I am sure that is true, but have you ever been picked up off your feet and planted into the ground by a 300 lbs soccer player? Come on, girls play it, and not dressed in Victoria Secret clothing. Basketball is physical too. But in both cases we are talking tons of running with some pushing, shoving and occasional tripping. Are there high level skills required, sure. Old school book reading is physical too -- all that page turning. Okay, I am being a smart ***, but get real. There is more contact in the celebration after a TD in football than a whole game of soccer. Base ball is physical too but the collisions are not the actually object of the game, they are incidental. like soccer. Nobody talks about banning soccer, basketball, or baseball because they are too violent. Now maybe Irish Hurling and we could talk. That looks nasty.

My boys play both sports. Three things. First, soccer players run on average about 10-12 km per game. No one in football comes close to that. They also sprint quite a bit and are every bit as fast as football players. Second, they make sliding tackles trying to take the ball away, and many times that means someone taking out your knees (directly). Third, getting kicked in a soccer game causes serious damage.

The brain damage thing is all football. Now, that is just straight stupidity to feel happy about someone trying to take someone's head off.

First please check you references because until recently, the topic of concussions in soccer have historically received more attention than football.

Second, this is the US, stop with the metric system BS. how far is that in miles?

For your feeble brain, that is 6-7 miles and 11 to 13 football fields per game.

American football is definitely more physical overall, but soccer is physical as well. It's a different type of physicality.

I take offense to the feable minded comment...especially coming from a a soccer fan. Take a set of .4536 kilogram nuts and see if you can squeeze out 453.6 grams of **** to swallow....would this equate as a "different type of physicality"?

 

[valid]

lulz at a foreign soccer player able to come in and get a stadium in Miami while a university bearing the city's name can't. in fact they wanted to piggyback off of Beckham instead of getting it done themselves. These are the guys in charge of UM football.

Miami football is dead.

 

[prinmemo]

I am sure that is true, but have you ever been picked up off your feet and planted into the ground by a 300 lbs soccer player? Come on, girls play it, and not dressed in Victoria Secret clothing. Basketball is physical too. But in both cases we are talking tons of running with some pushing, shoving and occasional tripping. Are there high level skills required, sure. Old school book reading is physical too -- all that page turning. Okay, I am being a smart ***, but get real. There is more contact in the celebration after a TD in football than a whole game of soccer. Base ball is physical too but the collisions are not the actually object of the game, they are incidental. like soccer. Nobody talks about banning soccer, basketball, or baseball because they are too violent. Now maybe Irish Hurling and we could talk. That looks nasty.

My boys play both sports. Three things. First, soccer players run on average about 10-12 km per game. No one in football comes close to that. They also sprint quite a bit and are every bit as fast as football players. Second, they make sliding tackles trying to take the ball away, and many times that means someone taking out your knees (directly). Third, getting kicked in a soccer game causes serious damage.

The brain damage thing is all football. Now, that is just straight stupidity to feel happy about someone trying to take someone's head off.

First please check you references because until recently, the topic of concussions in soccer have historically received more attention than football.

Second, this is the US, stop with the metric system BS. how far is that in miles?

For your feeble brain, that is 6-7 miles and 11 to 13 football fields per game.

American football is definitely more physical overall, but soccer is physical as well. It's a different type of physicality.

I take offense to the feable minded comment...especially coming from a a soccer fan. Take a set of .4536 kilogram nuts and see if you can squeeze out 453.6 grams of **** to swallow....would this equate as a "different type of physicality"?

Feeble minded. Also juvenile.

 

[Dingaan1828]

I'd feel better about the soccer stadium if if wasn't going to be wedged in west of Marlins Stadium. Two things I don't like about it are 1. there will be no view of the Miami skyline - Marlins Stadium is in the way. 2, it looks like a tight fit. Would expansion really be possible there?

ya know what would be awesome? Knock down the roach infested properties immediately south of Marlins stadium and build the soccer stadium with a little room around it for possible expansion. And, you get the view back too.

I know it's never going to happen. Just thinking what I'd like to see happen.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Stop talking about soccer. F*ck soccer. This thread is about our stadium situation, not soccer vs. football. With that said, it's a travesty that the OB was knocked down and it's an even bigger joke that a f*cking soccer and baseball stadium will now exist on the former site of one of the most historic pro and college football venues. My hope is this: I hope Beckham goes ahead with the stadium and I hope his MLS franchise is an UTTER failure, then, we can come in, expand his stadium and use it for the Canes in the future!

By that time Traz Powell will need replaced and we'll take second seat to high school football. Frenk will probably sign a 40 year lease renewal at SLS the year prior to the futbol team folding anyway.

 

[Hurracanes]

This program sucks.

 

[dallascane]

I'd feel better about the soccer stadium if if wasn't going to be wedged in west of Marlins Stadium. Two things I don't like about it are 1. there will be no view of the Miami skyline - Marlins Stadium is in the way. 2, it looks like a tight fit. Would expansion really be possible there?

ya know what would be awesome? Knock down the roach infested properties immediately south of Marlins stadium and build the soccer stadium with a little room around it for possible expansion. And, you get the view back too.

I know it's never going to happen. Just thinking what I'd like to see happen.

Reality is even if we could get an on campus stadium through cgcc, it would be wedged in the campus somewhere with no view of the Miami skyline either. 30k seats shouldn't be very tall so there should be room for an upper deck.

 

[Rellyrell]

lulz at a foreign soccer player able to come in and get a stadium in Miami while a university bearing the city's name can't. in fact they wanted to piggyback off of Beckham instead of getting it done themselves. These are the guys in charge of UM football.

Miami football is dead.

Gawlee, when u put it like that, it's actually a lot worst than I even imagined.