Shannon

[Deez Nuts]

Same record. Same bowl game wins. Same national titles (the only thing that matters). Go root for Shannon at UF. Your no Cane fan "foh"

your obviously not the brightest guy. your looking at their records with no context using retarded logic. just cuz W-L record is the same dont mean sht, i already explained to you how those records are different. national titles, huh? lmao at least with shannon we still talked about them. now we dont dare mention a national title all we talk about is the fkin coastal.

here we go with the "your not a real fan" argument lmao just cuz he is at UF doesnt mean I have to ignore the facts, what are you 10 years old? your making an argument off emotion. so i cant say that jimbo is better than golden either because he is at fsu? does that make me a fake fan? newsflash: UF will smoke our *** if we had to play them this year. thats the truth any way you cut it, cane fan or not. and honestly i could give a fk about being called a fake fan, i cant wait till fsu smokes our *** this year, we deserve it, bc these last 5 years there has been more al golden fans than cane fans.

 

[gfer1988]

How many, if any, mid-majors did we lose to under Radio?

Shannon was a QB away from winning. Not saying he would have won titles but he would have been a 10 or 11 win coach. For the most part Shannon losses came at the hands of Jacory.

Golden on the other hand has a great QB and still manages to lose with a lot of talent

that's a **** of a cop out. shannon was dog sh*t and there's a reason he will never have another head coaching gig in his career. i don't blame jacory. that's failing to acknowlege that harris had a new offensive coordinator almost every year he was here. name me one college qb that has had a successfful career given that circumstance.

You mean the same person that is the assistant head coach/defensive coordinator at Florida who is undefeated won't get a job again?? That guy??

He had bigger wins than Golden and we had come behind wins. Golden can't win once he doesn't have the lead and he has yet to defeat any team that has finished in the top 25. Nobody can be that bad

actually read what i wrote caveman. i said head coaching gig. i had no issue with him as a coordinator but he was an awful head coach.

 

[canesrdynamite]

Same national titles (the only thing that matters).

Sellin the man short. RS was part of 3 NCs, 2 of them in a big way.

1987 national championship as starting LB
1991 national championship as grad asst.
2001 national championship as DC


al golden might have watched a national championship



again... Randy was not a good head coach here, but don't act like the man didn't do anything for UM.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

Look at the record...Randy was one of the best DC's that coached at the "U". Why do you think McAlwain brought him to Florida as the coach in waiting while he handles the Defense and Linebackers...Gators looked like Hurricanes Defense from the 80's during the beat down on Mississippi. I mean a BEAT DOWN by Randy Shannon coached players...

Coach in waiting? Are you on crack?

 

[Deez Nuts]

Look at the record...Randy was one of the best DC's that coached at the "U". Why do you think McAlwain brought him to Florida as the coach in waiting while he handles the Defense and Linebackers...Gators looked like Hurricanes Defense from the 80's during the beat down on Mississippi. I mean a BEAT DOWN by Randy Shannon coached players...

Coach in waiting? Are you on crack?

i think i made a discovery....2 user names? lmao jimmyjohnsonshair and big sky cane is the same person. pathetic.

you can prove your point by using facts instead of going around upvoting yourself loser. or is it just a coincidence both of you go around upvoting each others posts and also downvoting the same exact posts? (skipping over a bunch of posts saying the same thing but double downvote certain posts in particular, hmmmm)

lmao get a life loser nobody cares about up/down votes.

downvote deez nuts btch!

 

[Big Sky Cane]

Look at the record...Randy was one of the best DC's that coached at the "U". Why do you think McAlwain brought him to Florida as the coach in waiting while he handles the Defense and Linebackers...Gators looked like Hurricanes Defense from the 80's during the beat down on Mississippi. I mean a BEAT DOWN by Randy Shannon coached players...

Coach in waiting? Are you on crack?

i think i made a discovery....2 user names? lmao jimmyjohnsonshair and big sky cane is the same person. pathetic.

you can prove your point by using facts instead of going around upvoting yourself loser. or is it just a coincidence both of you go around upvoting each others posts and also downvoting the same exact posts? (skipping over a bunch of posts saying the same thing but double downvote certain posts in particular, hmmmm)

lmao get a life loser nobody cares about up/down votes.

downvote deez nuts btch!

Uh.....no. lol

 

[WhatTheHell]

"Hey guys, which smells less like shlt: a giant ****, or a big mound of diarrhea?"

 

[Deez Nuts]

"Hey guys, which smells less like shlt: a giant ****, or a big mound of diarrhea?"

might be a valid analogy if your comparing golden to donofrio

if you hate shannon and think he sucks, thats great, nobody gaf. but dont sit here and put him on the same level as golden.

i suck playing quarterback and so did kyle wright. doesnt mean that having me starting at quarterback is somehow the same as having kyle wright starting.

we would be way better off right now with randy instead of what has happened to this program with golden. simple concept randy>golden, if you dont like shannon fine, but the subject of this thread is "Shannon", so the point of this thread is to compare them.

 

[WhatTheHell]

Shannon sucks. Golden sucks.

You're splitting hairs between horrible coaches that humiliated themselves at Miami through complete incompetence. Their records at Miami make them extremely comparable because of the similarities. Each is .500 in conference. Both only won 9 or more games once. Neither have won a bowl game. And on and on and on..

Fvck Shannon and Fvck Golden. The only people that romanticize the Shannon era are black dudes that think he got a raw deal.

 

[MarcoD70]

Look at the record...Randy was one of the best DC's that coached at the "U". Why do you think McAlwain brought him to Florida as the coach in waiting while he handles the Defense and Linebackers...Gators looked like Hurricanes Defense from the 80's during the beat down on Mississippi. I mean a BEAT DOWN by Randy Shannon coached players...

exactly, but let these fools on here tell it and randy is just as bad as golden lmao

its like they dont remember his history coaching defense at UM. he always had top ranked defenses at UM and you got this guy on here trying to tell me that shannon was "stuck in his ways and obsessed with his defensive scheme like Golden" lmao shannon's worst defense at UM was 100 times better than any defense Folden has ever fielded. He actually had a clue wtf he was doing on Defense.

Talk all the sht you want about randy but he is a proven defensive coordinator who had alotta success down here. people only talk about his years as HC but conveniently forget he had been leading our defense since 2001.

The comparison is being done between them as HEAD COACHES....its s big difference.

 

[MarcoD70]

"Hey guys, which smells less like shlt: a giant ****, or a big mound of diarrhea?"

Im guessing Onion is the ****....more firm and just kinda sits there.

Golden is the diarrhea...always moving around...wet....gross...

 

[bAMACANE]

Shannon at least could admit that his coordinator (Nix) was garbage and got rid of him. Whipple was a nice hire. Golden has hired nobody worth a crap.

I have to disagree . Whipped was terrible. I still remember Jacory doing that weak play action throwing it deep every other play.

 

[Deez Nuts]

Look at the record...Randy was one of the best DC's that coached at the "U". Why do you think McAlwain brought him to Florida as the coach in waiting while he handles the Defense and Linebackers...Gators looked like Hurricanes Defense from the 80's during the beat down on Mississippi. I mean a BEAT DOWN by Randy Shannon coached players...

exactly, but let these fools on here tell it and randy is just as bad as golden lmao

its like they dont remember his history coaching defense at UM. he always had top ranked defenses at UM and you got this guy on here trying to tell me that shannon was "stuck in his ways and obsessed with his defensive scheme like Golden" lmao shannon's worst defense at UM was 100 times better than any defense Folden has ever fielded. He actually had a clue wtf he was doing on Defense.

Talk all the sht you want about randy but he is a proven defensive coordinator who had alotta success down here. people only talk about his years as HC but conveniently forget he had been leading our defense since 2001.

The comparison is being done between them as HEAD COACHES....its s big difference.

And defense is not a huge part of being a HC?

last i checked defense is half of the game of football (1/3 if you include special teams). some say defense is more important than offense. so why try to minimize randy's defensive accomplishments just to try to make him look worse as a HC?

even if you only compare Randy's defense while he was HC, it was worlds better than what golden calls a defense. you dont want to include his defenses when he was d-coordinator? fine. when he was HC his defenses were still good.

 

[Deez Nuts]

Shannon sucks. Golden sucks.

You're splitting hairs between horrible coaches that humiliated themselves at Miami through complete incompetence. Their records at Miami make them extremely comparable because of the similarities. Each is .500 in conference. Both only won 9 or more games once. Neither have won a bowl game. And on and on and on..

Fvck Shannon and Fvck Golden. The only people that romanticize the Shannon era are black dudes that think he got a raw deal.

whatever i disagree its not splitting hairs, the difference between shannon and golden is much larger than that.

everybody keeps bringing up the records without context. why dont you dig further and see who those wins and losses came against. im not gonna keep repeating and explaining cuz everybody wants to ignore the facts and just say "they had the same record, randy sucks who cares!". lets just say almost 100% of golden's wins are against either FCS schools or teams with losing records (and even then he still manages to find a way to lose to mediocre teams).

nobody is trying to romanticize shannon, your taking it from one extreme to another. i dont have to think shannon is the best coach in the world to acknowledge the fact that he was waayyy better than Golden.

the hate for shannon is unreal. if shannon did what golden has done, i dont even want to imagine the sht people would be saying and doing to him. he had a much shorter leash and no excuses. on the other hand, if golden accomplished what shannon did, people would be crowning him as the best coach ever. can you imagine with al's excuse-making ability and cult-like following how he would spin a coaching tenure like randy's? they wouldve started building him a statue at the hecht.

 

[niner]

"Miami leads the series with Florida 29–26, and has won seven of the past eight games, including a 21–16 victory in the most recent game played 2013."

Thanks Randy!

 

[Cane2]

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people forget how he out and out quit recruiting the last couple of years. His last two classes were atrocious and were pretty much him being lazy and not wanting to go after guys. In spite of Golden's ******** up on SoFla recruiting, Golden's at least still recruiting.

Recruiting? The best talent Al has had here at UM have been Randy's recruits (including most recently walford, dorsett, Duke, Flowers,etc and remember he had to be talked into taking Perryman). We also had Teddy fkin Bridgewater on the way. Everybody hates on the 2008 class but they were the #1 ranked in the nation. Meanwhile Folden keeps striking out in Dade County losing out to FSU and UF and recruiting 2 star coal shovelers who belong in division 2 schools.

I gather you have completely forgotten how Shannon quit recruiting the last two years too. When Shannon was fired we had some absurd number of commits, like about 4 or 5 and only one visit scheduled. I know you want to defend him, but that's inexcusable. Its pretty well known he put no effort in recruiting the last two years. ...

We had no visits scheduled because Hocutt cancelled them all. The program was toxic at that time. It was toxic prior to the season even starting however, the recruiting thing is way overblown. RS left Al with plethora of NFL talent. Look at the 2010 and 2011 talent Al inherited. He had 3 NFL tight ends (Clive statistically the best of all time), He left Al with 3 NFL backs on the roster with a Duke commitment (Duke pledged to RS as a junior and broke the rushing record), he left him with 5 NFL wideouts (Hurns single season record holder), He left Al with countless NFL online talent.
People say he got lazy recruiting and that is usually in result of the 2010 class but turns out he found quite a few gems within that class for instance Clive and Hitns who everyone killed him over. He had misses but the roster wasn't as voided as it is now.

Not sure how one fathoms that 'Golden's at least still recruiting." For the past three calendar months, Golden has had two commits hasn't whiffed on a single commit in the past 45 days. If Hocutt cancelled visits in '10 because of toxicity, then it's contagiously lethal right now. Let's see how Golden's flying around in commits with this environment.

 

[Alexdw85]

Same record. Same bowl game wins. Same national titles (the only thing that matters). Go root for Shannon at UF. Your no Cane fan "foh"

your obviously not the brightest guy. your looking at their records with no context using retarded logic. just cuz W-L record is the same dont mean sht, i already explained to you how those records are different. national titles, huh? lmao at least with shannon we still talked about them. now we dont dare mention a national title all we talk about is the fkin coastal.

here we go with the "your not a real fan" argument lmao just cuz he is at UF doesnt mean I have to ignore the facts, what are you 10 years old? your making an argument off emotion. so i cant say that jimbo is better than golden either because he is at fsu? does that make me a fake fan? newsflash: UF will smoke our *** if we had to play them this year. thats the truth any way you cut it, cane fan or not. and honestly i could give a fk about being called a fake fan, i cant wait till fsu smokes our *** this year, we deserve it, bc these last 5 years there has been more al golden fans than cane fans.

I obviously am not the smartest guy because I used statistics and evidence to back up my points. If you actually think wins and losses don't mean anything I don't know what to tell you. Your a Shannon apologist who thought it was ok to come out and think Golden's ineptitude somehow vindicated you. Youre still wrong.

You aren't a real Canes fan. You keep railing off about all the mythical Golden supporters you are imagining in your head in this thread and telling us how awesome Shannon was/is. And what do you do to back up the claims? Say he had a better defense and better wins along with some other vague statements with no evidence behind them. With that better defense and those better wins he managed to have the same record and same amount of bowl wins and same amount of ACC Championship appearances. And those are the only stats that matter.

 

[Deez Nuts]

Same record. Same bowl game wins. Same national titles (the only thing that matters). Go root for Shannon at UF. Your no Cane fan "foh"

your obviously not the brightest guy. your looking at their records with no context using retarded logic. just cuz W-L record is the same dont mean sht, i already explained to you how those records are different. national titles, huh? lmao at least with shannon we still talked about them. now we dont dare mention a national title all we talk about is the fkin coastal.

here we go with the "your not a real fan" argument lmao just cuz he is at UF doesnt mean I have to ignore the facts, what are you 10 years old? your making an argument off emotion. so i cant say that jimbo is better than golden either because he is at fsu? does that make me a fake fan? newsflash: UF will smoke our *** if we had to play them this year. thats the truth any way you cut it, cane fan or not. and honestly i could give a fk about being called a fake fan, i cant wait till fsu smokes our *** this year, we deserve it, bc these last 5 years there has been more al golden fans than cane fans.

I obviously am not the smartest guy because I used statistics and evidence to back up my points. If you actually think wins and losses don't mean anything I don't know what to tell you. Your a Shannon apologist who thought it was ok to come out and think Golden's ineptitude somehow vindicated you. Youre still wrong.

You aren't a real Canes fan. You keep railing off about all the mythical Golden supporters you are imagining in your head in this thread and telling us how awesome Shannon was/is. And what do you do to back up the claims? Say he had a better defense and better wins along with some other vague statements with no evidence behind them. With that better defense and those better wins he managed to have the same record and same amount of bowl wins and same amount of ACC Championship appearances. And those are the only stats that matter.

no offense but your an idiot. of course wins and losses mean something, but who those wins and losses come against also mean something. since you like stats so much why dont you go look up their respective strength of schedules, and check out their opponents. you cant be this slow, im tired of repeating myself. shannon beat some ranked teams, folden never etc etc etc . that right there alone means that their win-loss records are not equal.

really, do you not understand this simple concept? let me make this easy for you, if a team A is 12-0 against all fcs teams, and team B is 12-0 against an SEC schedule, are you telling me that is the same thing? they are both 12-0 with the same record, so they must be equal, right? gtfoh

you people swear i care about vindication or im a shannon apologist lmao but all i am saying is shannon is a waayy better coach than golden. i cant acknowledge that shannon is a better coach than golden? is that not a correct statement? does that make you a golden apologist for trying to argue that shannon was just as bad?

and lmao @ vague statements, i just listed a whole bunch of facts to tell you why your full of sht and you come back with "same record"...well that "same record" bs is a vague statement bc you are ignoring context and every other fact that clearly point to shannon being better than golden. im tired of repeating the same sht just for people to say "who cares randy sucks same record", so feel free to look through this thread where i posted a bunch of reasons/facts why shannon is no where near as bad a coach as golden.

your obviously a golden apologist

 

[felix]

Stop the "Radio" BS, on his worst day, Shannon was more of a Cane than you can dream of being.


:Angry:

 

[Alexdw85]

You clearly carry the same intellectual capacity as your lover Randy Shannon which means your a potato. I've clearly given you facts as well and the only ones that matter. Same W/L. Same bowl wins. Same ACC record. Same national titles. There isn't any context needed because the bottom line results are what we criticize and what matters. Were Miami fans and don't celebrate beating going 7-5 vs the number 20 hardest schedule vs 7-5 against the 32nd hardest schedule.

He sucked. Randy beat FSU. Great! He also lost to Florida. Golden beat them. Golden still sucks too.

Your obviously a bitter former Shannon supporter who can't accept he sucks. Keep carrying the flag though. Maybe one day he will coach again since he's such a brilliant mind like you.