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How many national championships has fsu won when Miami's not on probation?
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I have no idea..we, I mean FSU won when i was up there in 99 but dont remember if we were still on probation then
 
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We were on probation when they won in 2013 and 1999...pretty sure we were not on probation on 1993. So the answer would be 1.
 
But the fact remains that idiots like Bud Elliot, who argue with teenage kids on twitter as an adult male, who's only argument is to say the FSU has beaten UM five years in a row, while true, is a very pathetic stat. The fact remains that the only time FSU has rattled off a winning streak vs Miami was when we were on NCAA Probation. When the NCAA does not aide FSU their record against us is downright pathetic. Bottom line when forced to play straight up we own them...when we are on probation they get ****y. We are no longer no probation this year.
 
But the fact remains that idiots like Bud Elliot, who argue with teenage kids on twitter as an adult male, who's only argument is to say the FSU has beaten UM five years in a row, while true, is a very pathetic stat. The fact remains that the only time FSU has rattled off a winning streak vs Miami was when we were on NCAA Probation. When the NCAA does not aide FSU their record against us is downright pathetic. Bottom line when forced to play straight up we own them...when we are on probation they get ****y. We are no longer no probation this year.

They've won 6 in a row because of s.hitty coaches....don't use the NCAA as a crutch for the stupidity of Shalalalala.
 
Macquire made their offense productive when he took over. I'd rather face the unknown who may make more mistakes.

Not against good teams. He played poorly against any defense with a pulse UF and Houston showed that.
UF's defense was elite and that whole team played poorly against Houston. Not to mention he was injured in the 2nd qtr. I'm not saying he was great but he was productive. With Cook and all their talent that's all they need. As an opposing fan, I'd rather him sit and let the freshman get rattled.

However, I want them undefeated when they come to Miami.
 
Macquire made their offense productive when he took over. I'd rather face the unknown who may make more mistakes.

Not against good teams. He played poorly against any defense with a pulse UF and Houston showed that.
UF's defense was elite and that whole team played poorly against Houston. Not to mention he was injured in the 2nd qtr. I'm not saying he was great but he was productive. With Cook and all their talent that's all they need. As an opposing fan, I'd rather him sit and let the freshman get rattled.

However, I want them undefeated when they come to Miami.

He was only good against a very bad Syracuse squad and Chattanooga. Cook is the entire offense. Maguire was very pedestrian. Syracuse was fools gold. To be honest if we played fsu and he was starting instead of Golson. We win big. He played against arguably the 3 easiest opponents on fsu schedule then played horrible against Clemson, Houston and UF. He couldn't convert the most basic passes against either of those teams. Too be honest he caused them acc championship game. That being said I'm not saying Francios is better. I'm just saying Maguire isn't good and did not make fsu offense better.
 
doesn't matter which one is qbing this year against us. Richt will have our boys ready, unlike at Georgia he will win because he has more dogs on the team.
 
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They gonna run that boy Cook into the ground. I doubt he finishes the season healthy. He may not even make it to the Miami game.
 
But the fact remains that idiots like Bud Elliot, who argue with teenage kids on twitter as an adult male, who's only argument is to say the FSU has beaten UM five years in a row, while true, is a very pathetic stat. The fact remains that the only time FSU has rattled off a winning streak vs Miami was when we were on NCAA Probation. When the NCAA does not aide FSU their record against us is downright pathetic. Bottom line when forced to play straight up we own them...when we are on probation they get ****y. We are no longer no probation this year.

They've won 6 in a row because of s.hitty coaches....don't use the NCAA as a crutch for the stupidity of Shalalalala.

Was Butch Davis and staff s.itty coaches during FSU's winning streak 1996-1999 when we were on probation for Pell Grant?
 
Macquire made their offense productive when he took over. I'd rather face the unknown who may make more mistakes.

Not against good teams. He played poorly against any defense with a pulse UF and Houston showed that.
UF's defense was elite and that whole team played poorly against Houston. Not to mention he was injured in the 2nd qtr. I'm not saying he was great but he was productive. With Cook and all their talent that's all they need. As an opposing fan, I'd rather him sit and let the freshman get rattled.

However, I want them undefeated when they come to Miami.

He was only good against a very bad Syracuse squad and Chattanooga. Cook is the entire offense. Maguire was very pedestrian. Syracuse was fools gold. To be honest if we played fsu and he was starting instead of Golson. We win big. He played against arguably the 3 easiest opponents on fsu schedule then played horrible against Clemson, Houston and UF. He couldn't convert the most basic passes against either of those teams. Too be honest he caused them acc championship game. That being said I'm not saying Francios is better. I'm just saying Maguire isn't good and did not make fsu offense better.

agree with this, that houston game he was missing wide open guys on crossing routes all game
 
So where is the Classy TopHat and Ascot wearing Brigade to remind us that we wouldn't posting this stuff on McGuire if he was
a Cane?

I mean, this thread is tailor-made for them to remind us how uncouth we Cane fans are on these boards.
 
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But the fact remains that idiots like Bud Elliot, who argue with teenage kids on twitter as an adult male, who's only argument is to say the FSU has beaten UM five years in a row, while true, is a very pathetic stat. The fact remains that the only time FSU has rattled off a winning streak vs Miami was when we were on NCAA Probation. When the NCAA does not aide FSU their record against us is downright pathetic. Bottom line when forced to play straight up we own them...when we are on probation they get ****y. We are no longer no probation this year.

They've won 6 in a row because of s.hitty coaches....don't use the NCAA as a crutch for the stupidity of Shalalalala.

Was Butch Davis and staff s.itty coaches during FSU's winning streak 1996-1999 when we were on probation for Pell Grant?

No dumbazz....Davis was affected by massive scholarship reductions. FSU's 2013 team didn't benefit from our scholarship reductions because they began in 2014.
 
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But the fact remains that idiots like Bud Elliot, who argue with teenage kids on twitter as an adult male, who's only argument is to say the FSU has beaten UM five years in a row, while true, is a very pathetic stat. The fact remains that the only time FSU has rattled off a winning streak vs Miami was when we were on NCAA Probation. When the NCAA does not aide FSU their record against us is downright pathetic. Bottom line when forced to play straight up we own them...when we are on probation they get ****y. We are no longer no probation this year.

They've won 6 in a row because of s.hitty coaches....don't use the NCAA as a crutch for the stupidity of Shalalalala.

Was Butch Davis and staff s.itty coaches during FSU's winning streak 1996-1999 when we were on probation for Pell Grant?

No dumbazz....Davis was affected by massive scholarship reductions. FSU's 2013 team didn't benefit from our scholarship reductions because they began in 2014.

It's quite clear it is you who is the dumbazz (nice word...you must be a punk teenager) as you do not to possess the intellectual capacity to understand how disastrous the NCAA's dragged out 3 year investigation was to Canes football. Therefore, the statement where the only time FSU has ever put together a winning streak vs Miami rings true as since 1980 the only times they have done so was during Pell Grant and Shapiro. Without the NCAA's assistance, when games are played straight up, we own them. That being said, nobody has made any excuses for our coaching as it was appalling the past 6 years. But the fact remains that FSU wins streaks vs us is highly correlated with NCAA investigations/probations for Miami.
 
But the fact remains that idiots like Bud Elliot, who argue with teenage kids on twitter as an adult male, who's only argument is to say the FSU has beaten UM five years in a row, while true, is a very pathetic stat. The fact remains that the only time FSU has rattled off a winning streak vs Miami was when we were on NCAA Probation. When the NCAA does not aide FSU their record against us is downright pathetic. Bottom line when forced to play straight up we own them...when we are on probation they get ****y. We are no longer no probation this year.

They've won 6 in a row because of s.hitty coaches....don't use the NCAA as a crutch for the stupidity of Shalalalala.

Was Butch Davis and staff s.itty coaches during FSU's winning streak 1996-1999 when we were on probation for Pell Grant?

No dumbazz....Davis was affected by massive scholarship reductions. FSU's 2013 team didn't benefit from our scholarship reductions because they began in 2014.

It's quite clear it is you who is the dumbazz (nice word...you must be a punk teenager) as you do not to possess the intellectual capacity to understand how disastrous the NCAA's dragged out 3 year investigation was to Canes football. Therefore, the statement where the only time FSU has ever put together a winning streak vs Miami rings true as since 1980 the only times they have done so was during Pell Grant and Shapiro. Without the NCAA's assistance, when games are played straight up, we own them. That being said, nobody has made any excuses for our coaching as it was appalling the past 6 years. But the fact remains that FSU wins streaks vs us is highly correlated with NCAA investigations/probations for Miami.
the violations occurred from 85-94 (so they say)
Butch was are DL coach from 85-88
he left for Dallas with Jimmy and didn't return until 95
 
They've won 6 in a row because of s.hitty coaches....don't use the NCAA as a crutch for the stupidity of Shalalalala.

Was Butch Davis and staff s.itty coaches during FSU's winning streak 1996-1999 when we were on probation for Pell Grant?

No dumbazz....Davis was affected by massive scholarship reductions. FSU's 2013 team didn't benefit from our scholarship reductions because they began in 2014.

It's quite clear it is you who is the dumbazz (nice word...you must be a punk teenager) as you do not to possess the intellectual capacity to understand how disastrous the NCAA's dragged out 3 year investigation was to Canes football. Therefore, the statement where the only time FSU has ever put together a winning streak vs Miami rings true as since 1980 the only times they have done so was during Pell Grant and Shapiro. Without the NCAA's assistance, when games are played straight up, we own them. That being said, nobody has made any excuses for our coaching as it was appalling the past 6 years. But the fact remains that FSU wins streaks vs us is highly correlated with NCAA investigations/probations for Miami.
the violations occurred from 85-94 (so they say)
Butch was are DL coach from 85-88
he left for Dallas with Jimmy and didn't return until 95

Butch Davis HC 1995-2000
Pell Grant Sanctions 1995-1999
FSU Win streak vs Miami 1995 - 1999

Only other FSU win streak during Shapiro investigation/sanctions 2010-2015

Make sense?
 
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