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Go Canes!! said:
How many identical threads can you guys start?

Man, we get it.
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jackedaround said:
I went to the school. I'm a fan. Think about football vs basketball over the last 20. Basketball has exceeded expectations many times. Football has done it for one season.
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Most of our fans don't realize that we have a basketball program, so the expectations are pathetically low.
 
Canedude08 said:
Most of our fans don't realize that we have a basketball program, so the expectations are pathetically low.
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I do agree w the expectations being pathetically low but thats also a byproduct or not even having a team for a while and then the area being a horrendous CBB market. we average the some of the worst march madness ratings. just not a good CBB market esp given how popular NBA ball here is (one of the highest rate NBA tv markets in the country).
 
jkdood said:
not enough get it. they keep saying wait wait wait make excuses after excuses. this thread is right on.

and when they run out of lamer excuses they bash the threads and dissenters that have to vent - in a forum where that shouldnt be dissed - its not the posters that suck, not by a longshot,
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But if the whiny threads were productive, we wouldn't be on year 21 of whiny threads.
 
WanderFranco said:
But if the whiny threads were productive, we wouldn't be on year 21 of whiny threads.
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im on the Misery loves company train. Every year the Hurricanes football seems something to look forward to, and then crashes into despair, disappointment, exasperation and depression. Not proud of it, but heck when i read others same thoughts i do feel better. And way tired of excuses after excuses, then same O! (O for Offense? lol)
 
I said it in another post and I'll say it again. We have been mediocre at best for the last 15 years. Changing that doesn't happen overnight. The BOT shopping for coaches at the flea market has more to do with the ****** start than Mario. Think about it, Shannon - no one would have hired him outside of UM as a head coach. Golden, do I need to say anything? Poor choice Marcus and its gonna cost you. Richt, good hire, but he checked out after the refs jobbed us(apparently they don't call holding on Big10 teams unless it's against SEC teams) against Wsky in our first bowl game. Screamed at the ref going into halftime and mailed it in from there. Then we have Manny. No need to re-visit that failure.

Now we have a real staff, but they don't have a magic wand. This is going to take time. Some of you are insufferable. Be glad the BOT finally decided to pay up for our coaching staff. In 3yrs if this is still happening I'll take the "L" and say Mario and this staff were a mistake and we wasted a lot of money.

Go Canes!
 
Samson Doyo said:
I said it in another post and I'll say it again. We have been mediocre at best for the last 15 years. Changing that doesn't happen overnight. The BOT shopping for coaches at the flea market has more to do with the ****** start than Mario. Think about it, Shannon - no one would have hired him outside of UM as a head coach. Golden, do I need to say anything? Poor choice Marcus and its gonna cost you. Richt, good hire, but he checked out after the refs jobbed us(apparently they don't call holding on Big10 teams unless it's against SEC teams) against Wsky in our first bowl game. Screamed at the ref going into halftime and mailed it in from there. Then we have Manny. No need to re-visit that failure.

Now we have a real staff, but they don't have a magic wand. This is going to take time. Some of you are insufferable. Be glad the BOT finally decided to pay up for our coaching staff. In 3yrs if this is still happening I'll take the "L" and say Mario and this staff were a mistake and we wasted a lot of money.

Go Canes!
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JJ literally told Shalala to hire Gary Patterson, and Man-Woman turns around and hires Shannon....that tells ya all you need to know.
 
jackedaround said:
Can't put together all three phases in any game.

Same stupid mistakes by the players AND coaches.

Mediocre results. We aren't the worst team ever but we aren't close to anything other than another 7 to 8 win season next year.

This is the reality. We just aren't good. The talent that we do have won't step up in unison. It takes a guy having 500 yards passing to lose a close game.

It may get better. We can only hope. After close to 20 years of this no one is holding their breath. Be a fan later? How about win now? Do something you shouldn't. Win a game you shouldn't. Never. Not a chance. Can't reward fans at all.
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I'm not sure if you heard, but Saban lost to ULM in his first year at Bama, but he didn't have a roster that should've beaten MTSU.
 
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SWFLHurricane said:
JJ literally told Shalala to hire Gary Patterson, and Man-Woman turns around and hires Shannon....that tells ya all you need to know.
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Unreal. One of the best football minds ever and you ignore it. Things would be much different now if Patterson took over then. ****, that makes me mad.

Go Canes!
 
jackedaround said:
Can't put together all three phases in any game.

Same stupid mistakes by the players AND coaches.

Mediocre results. We aren't the worst team ever but we aren't close to anything other than another 7 to 8 win season next year.

This is the reality. We just aren't good. The talent that we do have won't step up in unison. It takes a guy having 500 yards passing to lose a close game.

It may get better. We can only hope. After close to 20 years of this no one is holding their breath. Be a fan later? How about win now? Do something you shouldn't. Win a game you shouldn't. Never. Not a chance. Can't reward fans at all.
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By what metric? This is the saddest looking bunch I've seen in some time. The eyeball test says we are bad, I hypothesize top 3 worst in seasons since our last 'chip. I welcome the data though, or at least how you are measuring it so I can dig through my own stack of notes.
 
jackedaround said:
Can't put together all three phases in any game.

Same stupid mistakes by the players AND coaches.

Mediocre results. We aren't the worst team ever but we aren't close to anything other than another 7 to 8 win season next year.

This is the reality. We just aren't good. The talent that we do have won't step up in unison. It takes a guy having 500 yards passing to lose a close game.

It may get better. We can only hope. After close to 20 years of this no one is holding their breath. Be a fan later? How about win now? Do something you shouldn't. Win a game you shouldn't. Never. Not a chance. Can't reward fans at all.
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Yup.

And Miami finally broke the bank for a real head coach / proven head coach for the first time ... ever?

Larry Coker for six years, while the program eroded beneath his feet? Randy Shannon, a lifer, personality-less assistant wasted four years. Al Golden the snake oil salesman got his five years. Over the hill, tired Mark Richt did his three years (helped behind the scenes, but little done on the field) and Manny Diaz was another wasted three-year experiment.

Cheap, lazy hires for a wash, rinse, repeat experience that's defined the program for 20 years now.

Tired as everyone is of losing, Miami has been trying to rebuild this thing on shaky ground and a garbage foundation each new coaching hire—four guys over 17 years between Shannon's hiring and Diaz's hiring.

Might as well flush all of that down the toilet as was a sheer and utter waste of time—Miami barely treading water (averaging 7-5 for 16 straight years, between 2006 and 2021), while other programs invested big money into their programs over that same span.

UM just started writing real checks last December—and there's a lot of trash to clean up from these past two decades.

Welcome to year one of UM's first authentic rebuild—which is exactly what it is, even if the loudmouths and perennially frustrated try to tell you it's not, or shouldn't be.
 
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SWFLHurricane said:
How in tf do you chose Onion over Patterson???....Jesus H Christ....
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All due respect, who said Gary Patterson even wanted the job? Great, JJ identified a solid option, but Patterson just wrapped year six with the Horned Frogs, went 11-2 in 2006—and 11-1 in 2005, winning the Big 12, where he received a contract extension in December 2005, where he'd been a defensive coordinator for three years before getting promoted to head coach after the 2000 season.

Even if JJ recommended him, anyone really believes Patterson was leaving what he was building at TCU for Miami 2006—a reeling program that saw a mid-season, an on-field brawl with FIU (resulting in massive suspensions and a brutal PR hit) and then a player murdered weeks later miles from campus (Bryan Pata), en route to a 7-6 season and a rabid fan base that has been up in arms for years. (The 2005 season also ended with a post-game tunnel fight with LSU after that 40-3 Peach Bowl loss and 2006 stated with a loss to FSU and an embarrassing pre-game logo stop at Louisville, before the Cards whooped the Canes.)

Greg Schiano didn't even want the job in 2006 when it was offered; y'all really think a clean-cut, Kansas-bred Gary Patterson wanted anything to do with Miami when he was 54-19 at TCU with two Big 12 titles in six seasons?

Back to our fans thinking this is a better job than it really is—especially back in 2006 when this program was toxic.

The best Miami could've (and should've) done in 2006 was to hire Butch Davis back, which they had a shot at before UNC snatched him up (weeks before Coker was let go. Five years removed from the program he rebuilt, that was the only coach would've wanted it and fit the brand.

Patterson was never leaving TCU for Miami. Stop that nonsense. Nobody wanted the job back then, hence why The Onlon got the promotion. Miami even did a search for that 2006 hiring season and no one wanted to touch UM with a ten-foot pole.
 
ItsAUThing.com said:
All due respect, who said Gary Patterson even wanted the job? Great, JJ identified a solid option, but Patterson just wrapped year six with the Horned Frogs, went 11-2 in 2006—and 11-1 in 2005, winning the Big 12, where he received a contract extension in December 2005, where he'd been a defensive coordinator for three years before getting promoted to head coach after the 2000 season.

Even if JJ recommended him, anyone really believes Patterson was leaving what he was building at TCU for Miami 2006—a reeling program that saw a mid-season, an on-field brawl with FIU (resulting in massive suspensions and a brutal PR hit) and then a player murdered weeks later miles from campus (Bryan Pata), en route to a 7-6 season and a rabid fan base that has been up in arms for years. (The 2005 season also ended with a post-game tunnel fight with LSU after that 40-3 Peach Bowl loss and 2006 stated with a loss to FSU and an embarrassing pre-game logo stop at Louisville, before the Cards whooped the Canes.)

Greg Schiano didn't even want the job in 2006 when it was offered; y'all really think a clean-cut, Kansas-bred Gary Patterson wanted anything to do with Miami when he was 54-19 at TCU with two Big 12 titles in six seasons?

Back to our fans thinking this is a better job than it really is—especially back in 2006 when this program was toxic.

The best Miami could've (and should've) done in 2006 was to hire Butch Davis back, which they had a shot at before UNC snatched him up (weeks before Coker was let go. Five years removed from the program he rebuilt, that was the only coach would've wanted it and fit the brand.

Patterson was never leaving TCU for Miami. Stop that nonsense. Nobody wanted the job back then, hence why The Onlon got the promotion. Miami even did a search for that 2006 hiring season and no one wanted to touch UM with a ten-foot pole.
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JJ and Patterson are Very close till this day...he was most definitely interested. JJ wouldn't have recommended him if there wasn't desire on Pattersons part....Please stop...
 
ItsAUThing.com said:
All due respect, who said Gary Patterson even wanted the job? Great, JJ identified a solid option, but Patterson just wrapped year six with the Horned Frogs, went 11-2 in 2006—and 11-1 in 2005, winning the Big 12, where he received a contract extension in December 2005, where he'd been a defensive coordinator for three years before getting promoted to head coach after the 2000 season.

Even if JJ recommended him, anyone really believes Patterson was leaving what he was building at TCU for Miami 2006—a reeling program that saw a mid-season, an on-field brawl with FIU (resulting in massive suspensions and a brutal PR hit) and then a player murdered weeks later miles from campus (Bryan Pata), en route to a 7-6 season and a rabid fan base that has been up in arms for years. (The 2005 season also ended with a post-game tunnel fight with LSU after that 40-3 Peach Bowl loss and 2006 stated with a loss to FSU and an embarrassing pre-game logo stop at Louisville, before the Cards whooped the Canes.)

Greg Schiano didn't even want the job in 2006 when it was offered; y'all really think a clean-cut, Kansas-bred Gary Patterson wanted anything to do with Miami when he was 54-19 at TCU with two Big 12 titles in six seasons?

Back to our fans thinking this is a better job than it really is—especially back in 2006 when this program was toxic.

The best Miami could've (and should've) done in 2006 was to hire Butch Davis back, which they had a shot at before UNC snatched him up (weeks before Coker was let go. Five years removed from the program he rebuilt, that was the only coach would've wanted it and fit the brand.

Patterson was never leaving TCU for Miami. Stop that nonsense. Nobody wanted the job back then, hence why The Onlon got the promotion. Miami even did a search for that 2006 hiring season and no one wanted to touch UM with a ten-foot pole.
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No...UM did NOT have ANY interest in Butch in 06...That's 100% fact....
 
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