Salt may still be coming

BigCaneAl

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Leota and Salt will not be making it this weekend. Looks like their transcripts didn't get cleared, and they are EE so it's not gonna happen.
 

datcaneguy

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Damn can we get any damn studs, seems like grades always the issue with players we need the most...damn at least allow two or three exceptions a year
 

Canesfan1899

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If kids want to come here they need to work in the classroom, nothing wrong with that.
 

Canemang

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If kids want to come here they need to work in the classroom, nothing wrong with that.
Or continue what their doing, and qualify for about 122346895459 other schools
 

Gennaker Cane

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Isn't the problem with JC kids usually the classes they take, not their grades? Most of them want to take Phys Ed classes or other courses that UM does not offer or recognize as legitimate.
 

pcitycane

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clearinghouse has been kicking our ass as of late
 

Spidercane

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clearinghouse has been kicking our ass as of late
The clearinghouse has always hit us hard. If you go back just to 1999 till now we have had an enormous amount of non-qualifiers, many who never were able to make it back to UM or just went someplace easier to get into.
 

HurricaneinLA

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If kids want to come here they need to work in the classroom, nothing wrong with that.
LSU or the rest of the SEC has a problem with that. Open your eyes up a little. College football is a farm league for the NFL. Do we want to win or not? I am all for people doing well in the classroom because most NFL players go broke and have to work after career is over. It is all about football and if they come to UM they will do better in the classroom. Not to much difference between who UM takes and what other schools take in the classroom. We have lost way to many good players on the field to schools that are lining up to take them.
 

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The SEC is going to be simmering down on their recruiting as well...they now have a scholarship cap that will prevent them from signing 26+ players to which they'd have 1-10 guys go prep-juco-grayshirt...you may not see teams in the SEC "accept" LOI and even recruit the questionable kids they have in the past in the volume that they have been doing it.

Just food for thought.
 

HurricaneinLA

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The SEC is going to be simmering down on their recruiting as well...they now have a scholarship cap that will prevent them from signing 26+ players to which they'd have 1-10 guys go prep-juco-grayshirt...you may not see teams in the SEC "accept" LOI and even recruit the questionable kids they have in the past in the volume that they have been doing it.

Just food for thought.
Hope you are right just to make a equal playing field and keep the local kids playing at UM. You always got to keep a head of the curve of get left behind. Just a fact in any business.
 

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Wha the hell does anyone see in Leota. Guy jogs around the field all game.
 

Larry

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To be honest, after seeing a few youtube game clips of both guys...Leota playing up and down rusher and Salt at OG...meh. If you're looking at them in December...fine. If you want them to sign in February...meh. Either way...meh.
 

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This is a double edged sword for sure...if a kid's grades aren't good enough, or if he decides that he's going to take Underwater Basket Weaving and The History of Pr0n 101, then what does that tell you about his character and work ethic? Do you really want to take a chance on a kid that has proven that he has no motivation to work hard?

But then...don't kids deserve the opportunity for a second chance sometimes, for the opportunity to be given an exception so that they can play the sport that they are so gifted at (and makes the University money) - it won't work every time, but with a motivator as a HC, and with the academic tools at their disposal, maybe just maybe a kid will seize the bull by the horns and work hard and get his degree.

Just seems like UM is not willing to take the chances most of these other schools are. Right or wrong? I dunno how to answer that question.
 

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Other than Kane Farquoqsdlkf3wnson I cant think of a single juco kid that we've brought in, in the last decade or so. And even he had all sorts of problems and had to take extra summer courses, etc...


I see this as an issue of UM's academic arrogance, nothing else.
 

Canemang

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Other than Kane Farquoqsdlkf3wnson I cant think of a single juco kid that we've brought in, in the last decade or so. And even he had all sorts of problems and had to take extra summer courses, etc...


I see this as an issue of UM's academic arrogance, nothing else.

Chase Ford
 

HurricaneinLA

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This is a double edged sword for sure...if a kid's grades aren't good enough, or if he decides that he's going to take Underwater Basket Weaving and The History of Pr0n 101, then what does that tell you about his character and work ethic? Do you really want to take a chance on a kid that has proven that he has no motivation to work hard?

But then...don't kids deserve the opportunity for a second chance sometimes, for the opportunity to be given an exception so that they can play the sport that they are so gifted at (and makes the University money) - it won't work every time, but with a motivator as a HC, and with the academic tools at their disposal, maybe just maybe a kid will seize the bull by the horns and work hard and get his degree.

Just seems like UM is not willing to take the chances most of these other schools are. Right or wrong? I dunno how to answer that question.

A lot of good points.

It is hard work to become a great athlete. True genetics have a lot to do with it but with out the work and sacrifice you will not make it to the top. While everybody is out parting it up and goofing off you are still in the weight room for hours or running hours of windspints or stadium steeps or studying film on your own to give you that little bit of edge over the next person. What is the difference between just making the tackle or just missing it? Hours of extra hard work the next guy was not going or willing to do. The stakes and the competition are way higher every level you move up from Jr High to the pros. Same in the real world. Football is a full time job and finding the extra hours to study make it even harder.

A lot of these kids are from the local inter city that bleed orange and green. The only successful people they see are athletes. Who are their role models? Their single mom is so busy working one or two jobs who else do they look up to? A lot of them worry about where they are going to eat next. When do they have time to work helping with the bills, study for school and train for sports? Sometimes they can only pick two of them. You really got to look it that way. Since UM is Miami why not help out these kids by giving them a break like other colleges and a true overall education for some revenue that these same kids bring in the the U. Give these kids an extra year make a special program or what ever to help them out. Frank Gore and others made it. UM should let these kids get in if they can get into other colleges as well. Very few of these players would be able to get in if they were coming as students. What is the difference between 20 points? Going to LSU or going to UM. Give them a break.
 

killa1storm

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This is a double edged sword for sure...if a kid's grades aren't good enough, or if he decides that he's going to take Underwater Basket Weaving and The History of Pr0n 101, then what does that tell you about his character and work ethic? Do you really want to take a chance on a kid that has proven that he has no motivation to work hard?

But then...don't kids deserve the opportunity for a second chance sometimes, for the opportunity to be given an exception so that they can play the sport that they are so gifted at (and makes the University money) - it won't work every time, but with a motivator as a HC, and with the academic tools at their disposal, maybe just maybe a kid will seize the bull by the horns and work hard and get his degree.

Just seems like UM is not willing to take the chances most of these other schools are. Right or wrong? I dunno how to answer that question.

A lot of good points.

It is hard work to become a great athlete. True genetics have a lot to do with it but with out the work and sacrifice you will not make it to the top. While everybody is out parting it up and goofing off you are still in the weight room for hours or running hours of windspints or stadium steeps or studying film on your own to give you that little bit of edge over the next person. What is the difference between just making the tackle or just missing it? Hours of extra hard work the next guy was not going or willing to do. The stakes and the competition are way higher every level you move up from Jr High to the pros. Same in the real world. Football is a full time job and finding the extra hours to study make it even harder.

A lot of these kids are from the local inter city that bleed orange and green. The only successful people they see are athletes. Who are their role models? Their single mom is so busy working one or two jobs who else do they look up to? A lot of them worry about where they are going to eat next. When do they have time to work helping with the bills, study for school and train for sports? Sometimes they can only pick two of them. You really got to look it that way. Since UM is Miami why not help out these kids by giving them a break like other colleges and a true overall education for some revenue that these same kids bring in the the U. Give these kids an extra year make a special program or what ever to help them out. Frank Gore and others made it. UM should let these kids get in if they can get into other colleges as well. Very few of these players would be able to get in if they were coming as students. What is the difference between 20 points? Going to LSU or going to UM. Give them a break.
Well said bro. I agree 100%. I'm all for education but some of these schools need to stop the charade they really try to get these kids and education. If you ARE trying to, then there are some kids who need a bit of extra help. Give them that opportunity and see if some of these kids can make something of themselves. If it doesn't work out, hey you tried. Is some football player flunking out going to ruin the academic prestige of UM? I doubt it.
 
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