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Safeties and DTs -- Are we a complete team for what Hetherman plans to do?

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252cane said:
I mean it sound good but there isn’t no such thing as a positionless defense in football. Maybe you do some of that type stuff with the back 7
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Good point. I don't think its particularly fanciful or really different, positionless would just be another way of saying running a variety of gap schemes in exactly the way that goes against how much teaching those fundamentals often require.
 
grover said:
I can see how you could read it that way. Here is the sentence that annoyed you: "At DT, we have Blay, Moten and Scott (looking in the 280-300 range) with Jones as the expected rotational player". It's arguably bad sentence structure. But I made wrote the parenthetical next to Scott to indicate I meant him only, whereas a comma would have included Blay and Moten.

TLDR: I knew Blay and Moten are above 300. To me, Scott, specifically, looked below 300, closer to 280 from that stadium stair photo. I don't know where Jones is weightwise, but I understand he's hovering right at or just below 300.

As far as my agenda, I literally have none. I wrote this thread because it was my belief after Spring portal we didn't have enough big bodies at DT, then I read the posts by @Lance Roffers and @Hstokes1447 on Hetherman's defense, and it started to change my mind. Not wanting to be either a homer or a slurper, I created this thread to ask other people's opinions to help better inform mine.
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Just so you know, so moving forward, you can put the correct weight. Scott is 305 right now, not 280. The reason he looks so lean is because he’s a genetic freak but he is all of 305. You have to put out these players correct weights on here because when you don’t, it just feeds a narrative that’s flat out wrong. All of our defense lineman that will contribute this year and that will be five of them, are all over 300 pounds.
 
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As far as Love goes - last year he had some bad games too:
Louisville 11-34
GT 14-36
FSU 9-19
He's not unstoppable - and not having Leonard there as a run option may also hurt his production.

I think there is enough depth on the defense to be very good. Hethermann's D fits our players. I think Bain will be very effective inside at the 4i position. Remember that's where he lined up as a Freshman and dominated Clemson.
 
bacane said:
Maybe you missed OCs expose our defense last season. Missed the GT, Syracuse, even Cal game.
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Those OCs didn’t do anything exotic or spectacular. The defense was just that bad. There is a reason that majority of their best games came vs this defense. VT too
 
The key to our rushing D will be LB and Nickel LB. Heatherman has enough to work with now. We have depth to move players and cover a spot at DT and S. Yes, I would have preferred 1 more portal DT and S. Right now, my only worries are Beck going down, Auburn's FG's over 45 yds, ST's and Mario. Our fanbase so overrated our program for 15 year's, they can't see the difference in this team. Last year's talent and coaching weaknesses on D have been addressed. Their was a lot of talent on D last year, still. This team is stacked. It has the talent, depth, culture and work ethic. It needs to come out of camp healthy, have a few vocal leaders step up and coaching, coaching, coaching. This program hasn't had this much talent in 18 years. It isn't perfect with depth or elite talent, but no program is. This season is 100% on coaching.
 
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lholtz52 said:
I thought Kennedy is not yet in UM?
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He isn’t, he was only mentioned to reinforce the point that this staff is not looking for 325+ DTs and they are encouraging Kennedy to trim down before he enrolls. Seems like they want guys between 290 - 310 max 315, that are quick off the ball and can live in the backfield. The type of DTs that every great Miami defense had.
 
252cane said:
Ok then so like I said let’s not act like they were some gurus. what offense didn’t have some type of success vs that defense
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Perhaps you’re confused by the word guru. Any competent OC has a team of analysts and folks breaking down film, searching for tendencies, weakness and how best to attack a defense. Miami’s defense got notably exposed by Cal and didn’t know how to adjust or the talent to do so.
 
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bacane said:
Perhaps you’re confused by the word guru. Any competent OC has a team of analysts and folks breaking down film, searching for tendencies, weakness and how best to attack a defense. Miami’s defense got notably exposed by Cal and didn’t know how to adjust or the talent to do so.
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What you aren’t understanding is the got exposed by almost everybody they played. Cal did nothing to expose anything. They hit big plays in the pass game when everybody knew the secondary was aśs so what did they expose?

Remember usf when they couldn’t cover the slot and all the miscommunication? Remember vt the week before cal had one of their better games. Then cal scored 38 on of their best offensive games. Louisville scored 45. Duke had 31
 
I think the answer to the original post depends on the development of both Justin Scott and Moten this off season. Poyser should fill one of the safety positions. Hopefully they can get enough from Thomas and Markeith or some other young player could breakout to man the other spot.
 
kccanefan said:
I think the answer to the original post depends on the development of both Justin Scott and Moten this off season. Poyser should fill one of the safety positions. Hopefully they can get enough from Thomas and Markeith or some other young player could breakout to man the other spot.
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I would watch for Day at that other safety spot. He looks good.
 
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