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hoops156 said:
same holds true for any skill offensive recruit under the current HC and previous OC. only OC I would have trusted would have been lashlee even w the Manny issues (not a shock that the top transfer QB in king Chose lashlee)
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Disagree - I'd send my kid to Miami now. Cristobal is one of the few slimeballs... sorry I meant Head Coaches that I'd trust to have my child's best interests at heart.
 
Just another recruiting pitch. He’s bragging that he even takes care of his guys when they transfer, even though im sure it hardly ever happens like this with 95% of the other transfers. Either way it was good advice and Hurts made the right decision.
 
BeastMode said:
Hurts made the right choice but further proof of the **** show of a program and continued strikeouts at coaching hires at the top and for coordinator.

Mario has to mail this OC hire.

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A chance to kiss *** in the media. Smart man, but he told the truth no matter the rankings. Who had the best players? OU and a HC who is one of the few big brains on offense in cfb, he is on another planet. Should be an NFL HC one day
 
CaneinBroward said:
Respectfully disagree. I HATE Saban. They make him out to be the arbiter of what is good and bad in college football when he is no different than any other coach always looking out for his own best interests. He will have his players' backs as long as they are productive and can get him wins. Once they lose their usefulness, he forgets them. Just an arrogant and selfish SOB.

That being said, to say his teams NEVER could make a defining and indelible impact on the sport is just plain Cane homerism. I won't say his teams were as talented as 2001, but they did have a very similar run to what the Canes did from 1983-1991. One could argue it is even harder to do it now with the $$$ being thrown around at such a large number of schools on coaches, facilities, etc. And he has adjusted with the times as the spread offense has become the standard in college football today, he brought in coordinators to keep with the times. The guy has won 1 more NC at Alabama in less than 15 years than Miami has won in its history. Like I said, I HATE the guy, but respect him all the same.
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Facts his run now has erased our run that's how good it is IMO. And we helped with that as well.
 
OldhamA said:
Disagree - I'd send my kid to Miami now. Cristobal is one of the few slimeballs... sorry I meant Head Coaches that I'd trust to have my child's best interests at heart.
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I agree here especially if it’s 4 years. Not sure if Mario wins championships here but he’ll get certain things fixed enough to the point where this won’t be an issue

/I think
 
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252cane said:
This is old and been known. Saban loves taking away from this program tho lol
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Saban came to watch and learn from Miami when Butch was in charge and the great teams he had built. Saban saw what happened to Miami causing their decline. From the best to a joke because of the useless administration. Plus Shalala and the rest of the clown car.
 
Sooooo how about the timeline on this:

"Miami hires Alabama quarterbacks coach Dan Enos as Hurricanes offensive coordinator
Enos was rumored to be in line to take over the Crimson Tide offense" - -CBSsports, among others January 11, 2019
"(Hurts) wanted to go to Maryland or Miami. I said you need to go to Oklahoma; they've got the best coach to develop you as a quarterback..." -Saban
"Jalen Hurts announces transfer to Oklahoma after three seasons at Alabama" - USAToday, among other, January 16, 2019
Saban is next level man lol
 
Rellyrell said:
I respect it; listen, I’m a Canes fan through & through, but I’ve said numerous times, if I was a parent or a coach of a highly touted kid, fan be damned, I’ve made it clear I wouldn’t have sent my kid(s)
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Just what Mario is going to overcome.
Or so they say..
 
reirei92 said:
That year I remember wanting Tyree Jackson from Buffalo.

He plays tight end for the Eagles now but had good college stats at QB and had to have been better than what Jarren Williams, Nkosi and Tate Martell gave us that year. 9-3 was very possible.
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Jackson, even Kelly Bryant although I think he never visited. Richt’s last year of QB recruiting was weird
 
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MizCane said:
That’s bc Diaz was the coach and he was 💯 correct on that advice.
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Diaz didn't coach the QBs or the offense....look at my post above. Maryland was where Mike Locksley, Bama's OC had just gone, and Miami is where Enos had just gone, Bama's QB Coach. That's why Hurts was interested in those two spots he wanted to follow his coaches, but Saban trashed them. Goes to show you how next level Saban is...he suckers other teams into hiring away the coaches he wants to get rid of and never pays a buyout and doesnt fire coaches which is public admission of failure.
 
Dwinstitles said:
Facts his run now has erased our run that's how good it is IMO. And we helped with that as well.
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So many of our "Fans" d**kride Saban, it's pathetic. 20-30 years from now, when Saban is long gone and college sports has evolved into a new era, people may talk about Bama's run over the last 15 years, but they will NEVER have the cultural relevance that Miami football had(and continues to have) during the decade of dominance. They won't make highly rated documentaries about the Saban era, no one will care, because we've seen this before. His name was Bear Bryant and he did the same exact things Saban did. You could say that Saban is Bryant, just without the personality and likability. They both took their program's main advantages(Money and resources) and used them to overwhelm everyone else. It is a machine, an effective, lumbering, boring machine.

Too many of our fans just see that era and think "People cared about Miami because Miami was winning", forgetting that it was HOW and WHERE that made that era so memorable. There are few instances where a college program perfectly fit the time and place of an entire decade. You can name them off the top of your head: Georgetown Basketball under John Thompson, UNLV Basketball under Tark and Miami football during the decade of dominance. Those programs all fit perfectly within their areas, they fit the culture and THAT is what gives them long lasting relevance. It isn't just the winning, if that was the case, people would still be talking about the Bear Bryant era, but outside of history buffs, no one cares. Duke basketball can win from now until the end of time, but there will always be a part of the world that remembers UNLV hoops when they were rolling, same with Georgetown basketball, same with us.

When you think crack epidemic, inner city neglect and all the things that come along with it, GU basketball of the 80s comes to mind. Their style of play, the kids they recruited, the coach being defiant and not taking crap from anyone, it fit that era. UNLV with the flash, the iconoclast coach fit Vegas, they changed how college basketball was covered, how it was viewed. Miami football, Miami Vice, all the things that come with it. Colin Cowherd said it perfectly "The reason why college sports is boring now is that you don't have anyone doing anything differently. It's all huge machine schools beating up on everyone else, because there isn't any mechanism in place to keep it from happening." No one truly hates Bama, they are just there, beating up on people, using the impotence of the NCAA to load up on talent.

People HATED GU, they HATED UNLV, and they sure as **** hated Miami. It's impossible for a school to come up like Miami now, same with GU and same with UNLV. The state schools finally teamed up and made it impossible for startups to change how things get done. Look at MLB and Moneyball for an example of this. The A's did things that way because they didn't have any other option, it had a ceiling but once teams like the Red Sox, Yankees and others started doing it, it was all over. When you have sports where "Richest Team Wins" more often than not, it does get boring.
 
Canedude08 said:
So many of our "Fans" d**kride Saban, it's pathetic. 20-30 years from now, when Saban is long gone and college sports has evolved into a new era, people may talk about Bama's run over the last 15 years, but they will NEVER have the cultural relevance that Miami football had(and continues to have) during the decade of dominance. They won't make highly rated documentaries about the Saban era, no one will care, because we've seen this before. His name was Bear Bryant and he did the same exact things Saban did. You could say that Saban is Bryant, just without the personality and likability. They both took their program's main advantages(Money and resources) and used them to overwhelm everyone else. It is a machine, an effective, lumbering, boring machine.

Too many of our fans just see that era and think "People cared about Miami because Miami was winning", forgetting that it was HOW and WHERE that made that era so memorable. There are few instances where a college program perfectly fit the time and place of an entire decade. You can name them off the top of your head: Georgetown Basketball under John Thompson, UNLV Basketball under Tark and Miami football during the decade of dominance. Those programs all fit perfectly within their areas, they fit the culture and THAT is what gives them long lasting relevance. It isn't just the winning, if that was the case, people would still be talking about the Bear Bryant era, but outside of history buffs, no one cares. Duke basketball can win from now until the end of time, but there will always be a part of the world that remembers UNLV hoops when they were rolling, same with Georgetown basketball, same with us.

When you think crack epidemic, inner city neglect and all the things that come along with it, GU basketball of the 80s comes to mind. Their style of play, the kids they recruited, the coach being defiant and not taking crap from anyone, it fit that era. UNLV with the flash, the iconoclast coach fit Vegas, they changed how college basketball was covered, how it was viewed. Miami football, Miami Vice, all the things that come with it. Colin Cowherd said it perfectly "The reason why college sports is boring now is that you don't have anyone doing anything differently. It's all huge machine schools beating up on everyone else, because there isn't any mechanism in place to keep it from happening." No one truly hates Bama, they are just there, beating up on people, using the impotence of the NCAA to load up on talent.

People HATED GU, they HATED UNLV, and they sure as **** hated Miami. It's impossible for a school to come up like Miami now, same with GU and same with UNLV. The state schools finally teamed up and made it impossible for startups to change how things get done. Look at MLB and Moneyball for an example of this. The A's did things that way because they didn't have any other option, it had a ceiling but once teams like the Red Sox, Yankees and others started doing it, it was all over. When you have sports where "Richest Team Wins" more often than not, it does get boring.
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Facts culturally no one can do what Miami did....closest thing would be Michigan basketball with C Webb and them boys. But when it's done at the U it's different. Not saying it as a die hard I love the U but even if I was an outsider it's different, and y'all know me I'm pretty logical and a truth teller.

Bama will have documentaries about this run I would be surprised if they don't.
 
Dwinstitles said:
Facts culturally no one can do what Miami did....closest thing would be Michigan basketball with C Webb and them boys. But when it's done at the U it's different. Not saying it as a die hard I love the U but even if I was an outsider it's different, and y'all know me I'm pretty logical and a truth teller.

Bama will have documentaries about this run I would be surprised if they don't.
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Someone will make a documentary about Bama, but it's not going to be memorable. Why? Because there won't be a story to tell outside of "Saban beat everyone because they had more money and resources, and the NCAA let them do whatever they wanted without fear of punishment".
 
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