Sabag: A Bastion of Integrity

Tad Footeball

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It's obviously not surprising in the slightest. The only thing that continues to amaze is how the media largely nevahhhhh calls him out on it. Not to his face, not in columns and not even from the safety of their national tv studios.

Instead we get Marty Smith every year doing essentially recruiting videos for their program with attempts to humanize Sabag while simultaneously deifying his midget ***.
 
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You can have your integrity. So long as it isn't covering up actual crimes then give me natties
 
It's just so effing weird that he's protected from scrutiny and ridicule let alone actual investigative journalism in a third world state and minuscule media market like Alabaga but when a Miami or a USC or even an O$U is the dynastic program then there's an instant national target on the program's back.

This will always go back to the university presidents for me and especially the ones in the Big Ten along with Texas in allowing the $EC to take control of the sport. Any moron that thought Mark Emmert was more of a University of Washington guy than a wannabe good ol' boy from LSU almost deserves what they get.
 
Did the same thing when he first got there and was losing to Louisiana Monroe.
I think he had a dude that wasn’t even dressed due to suspension. He had him put his sht on and played him. He still lost to them. But this isn’t new for him.
 
Did the same thing when he first got there and was losing to Louisiana Monroe.
I think he had a dude that wasn’t even dressed due to suspension. He had him put his sht on and played him. He still lost to them. But this isn’t new for him.

Did that really happen? LOL

Yeah I remember he lost to Louisiana Monroe his first year. Our fans would’ve already fired him at that point.
 
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If Duke was going to beat Bama without those players, they are in serious trouble.
 
Did the same thing when he first got there and was losing to Louisiana Monroe.
I think he had a dude that wasn’t even dressed due to suspension. He had him put his sht on and played him. He still lost to them. But this isn’t new for him.
Did that really happen? LOL

Yeah I remember he lost to Louisiana Monroe his first year. Our fans would’ve already fired him at that point.

"His most notable suspensions in 2007 were four-gamers, of five players caught up in an athletics-wide textbook scandal that many feel was overblown. But the most instructive was of D.J. Hall. Hall remains the second-leading receiver in Alabama history. He was Saban’s first dynamic offensive weapon. But by a mid-November game against Louisiana-Monroe, he had crossed one too many lines, and Saban suspended him.

Eleven years later, the events of that infamous Saturday remain murky. Some recall an initial suspension length of one half. Saban, the following week, said he and the peer group had opted for “compassion” on Senior Day to give Hall one last afternoon in the Bryant-Denny sun. Others, however, remember a full-game suspension that Saban retracted at halftime. Either way, with the “buy game” alarmingly tied after two quarters, Hall’s ban was lifted. Says then-redshirt freshman offensive lineman David Ross: “That was the first time, and the last time, I’d seen Coach go against his better judgement to try to win a game.” And it didn’t work. The Tide slumped to an embarrassing upset.

The entire day served as a lesson. As an example of the consequences when team-wide buy-in erodes. “By that time,” says then-senior defensive lineman Keith Saunders, “the cancers had grown pretty big. Some guys didn’t care anymore, and it showed.” Saban, former players say, called out select upperclassmen responsible for the erosion. Says Davis, paraphrasing his coach: “‘I tried to tell you that this was going to happen, and you didn’t believe me. Maybe now you’ll start listening.'”

After the season, Hall, the highly-touted wideout, threw an NFL draft party with Gucci Mane as a featured guest. But he went undrafted, just like the rest of his graduating class, the only group of Alabama seniors to collectively whiff on all seven-plus rounds since 1970.

“There were reports,” explains then-sophomore offensive lineman Mike Johnson, “that Nick Saban had talked bad about certain players to NFL scouts and GMs. He did address that with the team. And basically said, ‘My word is my bond. I can’t go out there and lie to NFL scouts or GMs about what is going on, because it makes the rest of the players coming out of the program look bad.’ ”

As a reminder of what happens when commitment goes awry, the score of that UL-Monroe loss (21-14) and the “17-12” from a loss to Mississippi State the week before were affixed to every locker for the entire offseason.

It was yet another piece of the ground floor being constructed throughout those first 11 months. A mentality had been engrained. A four-game losing streak sent the 6-6 Tide rolling back to a second straight Independence Bowl. But the hundreds of hours of foundation-building fueled Saban’s message to the team on one of their first nights in Shreveport, Louisiana. It was, as Caldwell recalls, a prescient conclusion to an eventful first year:

“We’re never f’ing coming here again.”

 
"His most notable suspensions in 2007 were four-gamers, of five players caught up in an athletics-wide textbook scandal that many feel was overblown. But the most instructive was of D.J. Hall. Hall remains the second-leading receiver in Alabama history. He was Saban’s first dynamic offensive weapon. But by a mid-November game against Louisiana-Monroe, he had crossed one too many lines, and Saban suspended him.

Eleven years later, the events of that infamous Saturday remain murky. Some recall an initial suspension length of one half. Saban, the following week, said he and the peer group had opted for “compassion” on Senior Day to give Hall one last afternoon in the Bryant-Denny sun. Others, however, remember a full-game suspension that Saban retracted at halftime. Either way, with the “buy game” alarmingly tied after two quarters, Hall’s ban was lifted. Says then-redshirt freshman offensive lineman David Ross: “That was the first time, and the last time, I’d seen Coach go against his better judgement to try to win a game.” And it didn’t work. The Tide slumped to an embarrassing upset.

The entire day served as a lesson. As an example of the consequences when team-wide buy-in erodes. “By that time,” says then-senior defensive lineman Keith Saunders, “the cancers had grown pretty big. Some guys didn’t care anymore, and it showed.” Saban, former players say, called out select upperclassmen responsible for the erosion. Says Davis, paraphrasing his coach: “‘I tried to tell you that this was going to happen, and you didn’t believe me. Maybe now you’ll start listening.'”

After the season, Hall, the highly-touted wideout, threw an NFL draft party with Gucci Mane as a featured guest. But he went undrafted, just like the rest of his graduating class, the only group of Alabama seniors to collectively whiff on all seven-plus rounds since 1970.

“There were reports,” explains then-sophomore offensive lineman Mike Johnson, “that Nick Saban had talked bad about certain players to NFL scouts and GMs. He did address that with the team. And basically said, ‘My word is my bond. I can’t go out there and lie to NFL scouts or GMs about what is going on, because it makes the rest of the players coming out of the program look bad.’ ”

As a reminder of what happens when commitment goes awry, the score of that UL-Monroe loss (21-14) and the “17-12” from a loss to Mississippi State the week before were affixed to every locker for the entire offseason.

It was yet another piece of the ground floor being constructed throughout those first 11 months. A mentality had been engrained. A four-game losing streak sent the 6-6 Tide rolling back to a second straight Independence Bowl. But the hundreds of hours of foundation-building fueled Saban’s message to the team on one of their first nights in Shreveport, Louisiana. It was, as Caldwell recalls, a prescient conclusion to an eventful first year:

“We’re never f’ing coming here again.”


Hilarious that Sabag would ever say that his word is his bond. Dude has seriously lied to everyone going at least back to his Michigan State days. Like he somehow drew the line at NFL scouts. Wouldn't want the Bengals wasting a 6th round pick on someone he should've told the absolute truth about!
 
Did that really happen? LOL

Yeah I remember he lost to Louisiana Monroe his first year. Our fans would’ve already fired him at that point.

Saban was not some random coach who had never done anything in his career prior to losing that game. He took a 3-8 LSU team and turned them into national champs. Fans would not be calling for his head after the first season. Even Richt got tons of excuses after year 1 because he had "some history of turning schit teams to good teams".
 
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