Run Game Woes: Playcalling or Personnel

Let's not forget, half of the board thought Martinez was overrated the first half of the season. SMH . Our running game scheme sucks .
Scheme is a huge part of it. Very predictable. They should a graphic earlier in the year that Miami ran it up to middle something like 75% of the time. By far the highest in the country. Teams are selling out to stop it. Its like Paul Johnson old triple option, you had to stop the dive if you wanted any chance to stop them from running wild. Funny thing is we have less creative ways to combat teams selling out on the dive play runs than a ******* triple option team. Just sad the lack of thought we are getting from this Mario staff that is making more money than any coaching staff we've ever had.
 
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It's 100% coaching. Here are the issues:
  • Too predictable. We always run on 3rd and 4th and short. Other teams are sitting on it.
  • Center that gets pushed back.
  • TEs that can't block.
Solutions are to not be predictable based on down and distance, stop running duo so much since the center and interior line gets blown up every play, and to get the TEs off the field and run out of the spread. All of this is coaching. The coaches need to recognize our strengths and weaknesses and adjust our strategy accordingly. We don't do that.
Excellent comment! Syracuse was gashing us with runs by going full spread and then running against our 4 and 5 man fronts. I kept on thinking, man our coaches are dumb. They’re seeing the Orange gash us repeatedly out of the spread, but won’t run at them out of the spread. Just nuts. (PAUSE)
 
For a personnel standpoint in the first 4 to 5 games coaches seem to be happy with the running attack, but I just think that it’s become too predictable and opposing coaches are betting their hedges that we won’t change it up
100% even Scout team high school players can make big plays against the first offense when they know what play is coming
 
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other teams seem to add wrinkles that don’t consist of pass backs to the QB or OT. Subtle variances to the run game, the Chiefs run toss sweep out of the pistol on a weekly basis. Maybe add that wrinkle. I hate the “We’re a shotgun team, the runs go in A&B gaps”. So teams have plenty of film on you. Show something new. You get paid to do that as a D1 offensive coordinator. My $0.02. Granted our QB and some awfully STOOPIT plays haven’t helped either.

Go Canes!
 
After watching yet another pathetic attempt by Miami to run the football with consistency, especially against a team that is mostly terrible, I am left wondering if the play calling is less of an issue than the personnel. I am not trying to absolve Dawson (and Mario) and think that part of the job of any coaching staff is to recognize when you don't have the personnel and scheme up success in spite of that. But given that the same rushing attack was the best in the country last year, I am having trouble reconciling that fact with what I am watching every week.

Sure, the play-calling has been a little stale and sure, the threat of Cam Ward passing made a difference last season and sure, the lack of respect for our current passing attack (especially without CJ Daniels) allows teams to focus on the run more. But even if we ran up the A gap on every single play, we should still have been able to generate more success against ******* Syracuse of all teams.

I am just having trouble laying all of the blame at the feet of the coaching staff when we have a massive and veteran offensive line and three (probably overrated) veteran running backs. I guess we could throw in a little variety and a few more outside runs, but after watching the line and Lyle today, do we really think that a stretch play wouldn't get blown up in the backfield 5 times out of 10?

Unfortunately, the best pieces on our offensive line are probably gone next year and the recruit at running back (Mallory) looks like more of the same. I guess we can rely on Pringle a bit more but he is small and doesn't look like a three-down stud.

What is my point? I don't think we need to be calling for Dawson's head. I think we need to learn from how badly the staff misevaluated what we had upfront and in the backfield and hopefully make some corrections.

uh...

who exactly recruited those players?
 
uh...

who exactly recruited those players?
Here we go...

You gonna save that same energy for Ryan Day and Ohio State? They recruited both Fletcher and Lyle.

It is okay to add some nuance to your takes. I promise it will feel better when you do.
 
I went back and watched some of the 2023 film. We ran a whole lot better back then. Seems like we pulled a whole lot more and got to the edge consistently.
 
I posted it in the Pringle thread, but Fins today used a 6th OL a bunch and had good success running the ball. Our TEs aren’t helping much. Put in a 6th OL and let the RB get outside the tackles. If you want to play bully ball, fine. But be smart about it.
Mario will one up em and line up with 10 OL and Toney taking direct snaps.
 
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OL and RBs are overrated. RBs held Mario hostage in the offseason and prevent us from replacing Martinez with an RB1 -- and it shows on game day. Coaching + Evals + Talent = Production.
Sad to think Martinez went to the draft only to go 7th round and then get cut. What is he doing now? Coulda came back and prob got $500K in NIL and dominated with us for another year. sigh
 
Sad to think Martinez went to the draft only to go 7th round and then get cut. What is he doing now? Coulda came back and prob got $500K in NIL and dominated with us for another year. sigh
I thought with how deep the RB draft was there was a decent chance he'd come back

But we probably couldn't afford him this year

He'd probably be starting at Ohio St right now
 
As usual, it's a combination of a lot of things. This board, and really this world, has a big problem with things being other than purely black and white. The vast majority of life happens in a gray area. IMO, and I'm no expert, here we are:

1. The OL is getting very little run push. This is the main problem, IMO. Last year's line was generating much more push than this one. We were in the Top 5 in anyone's "run push" metrics last year. Now we're in the 40s. We were also in the Top 10 in yards before contact last year. Basically the same thing, how much push are you getting? This year it's outside the top 100

2. Why is #1 happening? It's partly because of the personnel, and it's partly because of the scheme. If I'm a DC, I know exactly what this offense is trying to do to me. So I'm going to load the box between the tackles and make you beat me doing something else. I'm not going to let you push me in the interior of my defense, I'm going to beat you with numbers. We are totally devoid of any creativity in the run game, we haven't adapted one iota since last year. Teams now have 20+ games of film of us doing essentially the same thing, well no **** it's probably not going to work very well.

3. Teams are more willing to dedicate more resources to stop the run because we don't have Cam Ward and dangerous pass catchers anymore. Pretty self explanatory here.

4. However, we do NOTHING to punish teams for this. Yes, Beck is not Ward. No ****. But Beck is plenty capable of running a play-action pass in short-yardage situations. I've parroted this 100 times at this point, so forgive me if you've read this before but it bears repeating: In the last five full football games, we have thrown the ball ZERO TIMES, let me repeat that, ZERO TIMES in a 2nd and short (3 or less) or 3rd/4th and 2 or less. One more time. Since halftime of the FSU game, we are approaching THIRTY plays where we had a 2nd and short (3 or less) or we had a 3rd/4th and short, which I define as 2 to go or less. 2nd and 3 or less, 3rd/4th of 2 or less. We have run the ball literally every single time. Every one. Does everyone understand what an advantageous situation a 2nd and 2 is for an offense? The entire playbook is at your disposal. So what do we do, 30 times in a row? Turn and hand it to a back. Guess what, guys? If my stupid *** can see this, what do you think the guys getting paid $1M a year are seeing?

5. The combo of Martinez/Fletcher is >>> the combo of Fletcher/Brown. I don't think this is an insanely big part of the problem, but we have downgraded the talent. Jordan Lyle has been, frankly, awful. Maybe it's injury, I don't really care what it is, we're talking about reasons why the run game is suffering, he's one. He's averaging 3 yards a carry. So we have a kid from North Dakota State as our 1B back. Inexcusable. Fletcher is a good player, but the combo last year was superior to the one this year.

To me, you put all this in a blender...the downgrade of the QB (as expected), the downgrade of the backs (somewhat surprising, but factual), the downgrade of the *RUN BLOCKING* of the OL (they are pass blocking their asses off), and the absolute complete ineptitude to the point it's almost comical of the offensive coaching staff, you get this. But at 75% of the way through the season, you think we'll do anything different? Nahh. We got this.

One last point, to the people saying we only run duo into the A-gap, put those folks on ignore. It's categorically false. A lot of what Dawson said in his rant a couple weeks ago was true. We run other running plays. Sometimes they don't go where they're designed to go, and frankly other times our fans just pretend like they don't happen so we can all ***** about the A-Gap. We run into the A-Gap a TON. We did last year as much as anyone in America too. But it's not all we run, by a longshot. However, if you're 40th in run push and 100th in yards before contact, maybe scale it back a touch? Run one (1) toss sweep, and see the opposing DC spontaneously explode into dust from surprise?
 
As usual, it's a combination of a lot of things. This board, and really this world, has a big problem with things being other than purely black and white. The vast majority of life happens in a gray area. IMO, and I'm no expert, here we are:

1. The OL is getting very little run push. This is the main problem, IMO. Last year's line was generating much more push than this one. We were in the Top 5 in anyone's "run push" metrics last year. Now we're in the 40s. We were also in the Top 10 in yards before contact last year. Basically the same thing, how much push are you getting? This year it's outside the top 100

2. Why is #1 happening? It's partly because of the personnel, and it's partly because of the scheme. If I'm a DC, I know exactly what this offense is trying to do to me. So I'm going to load the box between the tackles and make you beat me doing something else. I'm not going to let you push me in the interior of my defense, I'm going to beat you with numbers. We are totally devoid of any creativity in the run game, we haven't adapted one iota since last year. Teams now have 20+ games of film of us doing essentially the same thing, well no **** it's probably not going to work very well.

3. Teams are more willing to dedicate more resources to stop the run because we don't have Cam Ward and dangerous pass catchers anymore. Pretty self explanatory here.

4. However, we do NOTHING to punish teams for this. Yes, Beck is not Ward. No ****. But Beck is plenty capable of running a play-action pass in short-yardage situations. I've parroted this 100 times at this point, so forgive me if you've read this before but it bears repeating: In the last five full football games, we have thrown the ball ZERO TIMES, let me repeat that, ZERO TIMES in a 2nd and short (3 or less) or 3rd/4th and 2 or less. One more time. Since halftime of the FSU game, we are approaching THIRTY plays where we had a 2nd and short (3 or less) or we had a 3rd/4th and short, which I define as 2 to go or less. 2nd and 3 or less, 3rd/4th of 2 or less. We have run the ball literally every single time. Every one. Does everyone understand what an advantageous situation a 2nd and 2 is for an offense? The entire playbook is at your disposal. So what do we do, 30 times in a row? Turn and hand it to a back. Guess what, guys? If my stupid *** can see this, what do you think the guys getting paid $1M a year are seeing?

5. The combo of Martinez/Fletcher is >>> the combo of Fletcher/Brown. I don't think this is an insanely big part of the problem, but we have downgraded the talent. Jordan Lyle has been, frankly, awful. Maybe it's injury, I don't really care what it is, we're talking about reasons why the run game is suffering, he's one. He's averaging 3 yards a carry. So we have a kid from North Dakota State as our 1B back. Inexcusable. Fletcher is a good player, but the combo last year was superior to the one this year.

To me, you put all this in a blender...the downgrade of the QB (as expected), the downgrade of the backs (somewhat surprising, but factual), the downgrade of the *RUN BLOCKING* of the OL (they are pass blocking their asses off), and the absolute complete ineptitude to the point it's almost comical of the offensive coaching staff, you get this. But at 75% of the way through the season, you think we'll do anything different? Nahh. We got this.

One last point, to the people saying we only run duo into the A-gap, put those folks on ignore. It's categorically false. A lot of what Dawson said in his rant a couple weeks ago was true. We run other running plays. Sometimes they don't go where they're designed to go, and frankly other times our fans just pretend like they don't happen so we can all ***** about the A-Gap. We run into the A-Gap a TON. We did last year as much as anyone in America too. But it's not all we run, by a longshot. However, if you're 40th in run push and 100th in yards before contact, maybe scale it back a touch? Run one (1) toss sweep, and see the opposing DC spontaneously explode into dust from surprise?
This, this and more this...
 
Saw that we ended up 4.2 rush yards per attempt on the season, down from 5.7 last year. Full 1.5 yard difference with an elite OL is wild.

Also saw that we ended up only .5 yards per attempt down from last year overall in the passing game. Not that major.
 
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I think there’s a couple factors. All around pass game was not as good (still very good) so the defense was able to key in and stop the run game easier. I also think brockermeyer is not as good in the run game as carpenter was from a power perspective. And Fletcher is a notch below Martinez. Martinez was light on his feet and had better vision. Pringle was a revelation of sorts. Lyle I just don’t know
 
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