Rumor about Jameis Point shaving in 1st half vs Louisville

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No worries...TPD will conduct an investigation.

At the donut shop down the street.

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Even if he did he will never get caught. Point shaving happens every week in every sport. BFD.

LOL. Fantastic. I was just going to post that anyone who believes in widespread point shaving is a world class idiot. You made my point for me.

Too many variables to successfully point shave in a team sport like football with 22 players on the field at all times. Only a quarterback would have enough influence to do it, and even then it wouldn't be a guarantee.

As always, keep in mind all the variables required. The plan has to be cemented well ahead of time. Huge bets made, minus suspicion. Obviously it makes no sense to acquire all the risk with a modest potential profit. In football with so few scoring plays there is so much vulnerability. You can tell the quarterback to dump but if the defense is dominating it might not matter. That's particularly true in college football with such drastically different levels of talent from team to team.

It simply makes no sense. Conspiracies work behind closed doors when nobody is allowed to view. The numbers are concealed and faked. I always get a kick out of the JFK conspiracy geniuses who propose simultaneous coordinated shots from multiple angles in front of thousands of witnesses, to the point nobody will agree on the number of shots, and so fully thought out and perfectly executed that they knew exactly what the bullet holes would look like and therefore how to conspire and fake in the subsequent stages. Quite remarkable.

As always, the simple explanation is most likely to be true. Florida State falls behind because they are on the road against a stingy defensive team in prime time. Wow. Must be rigged. As a first half bettor this is borderline hysterical to me because first half lines have such low betting limits. Yet a Heisman winner and high NFL draft pick is going to risk it all...

The fewer the participants and greater influence of one or two major players, the greater opportunity for fraud. Basketball with only 5 players on the court per team is the obvious target among team sports. Boxing is perfect since you get one guy to dump and it's over. Tennis has potential for the same reason. With tournaments every week I was always surprised it took so long for tennis to come under scrutiny. There have been several suspicious betting patterns in obscure matches in recent years.

During my Las Vegas years I was impressed that fixing was virtually never a topic among locals. I can think of only a handful of times, generally by bitter deadbeats. Once you live there and experience all the ridiculous ways to win and lose a bet, you grasp all the oddities and come to accept them as merely part of normal sporting distribution.

From afar the same uninformed types who assign mysterious sophistication to oddsmaking likewise wants to cynically believe that non-stop scheming is going on, sporting voodoo. That way if they lose a major bet or opinion, it's not their fault. It was altered. Can't fault me if my handicapping was brilliant but unforeseen devious forces chose to tilt it the other way.
 
Nice thesis.

Didn't read past the first sentence. I personally know Stevin Smith ASU.

Lick my bawls you fvckin idiot. You think it takes a grand conspiracy to shave points? All it takes is a greedy player.

Do you even know how to use google you ******* ******? "Huge bets ahead of time"...lmfao....you are a doozy.

You think the only betting in America happens in Las Vegas casinos? ******* dumb fvck. These kids don't shave points for millions of dollars. They shave points for 10k. Fvck they sign to colleges for less.

I haven't seen you give these forums one solid gameday pick ever. I've put my mouth and money on the line several times this year here on these forums.

GTFO Tolstoy.
 
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Nice thesis.

Didn't read past the first sentence. I personally know Stevin Smith ASU.

Lick my bawls you fvckin idiot. You think it takes a grand conspiracy to shave points? All it takes is a greedy player.

Do you even know how to use google you ******* ******? "Huge bets ahead of time"...lmfao....you are a doozy.

You think the only betting in America happens in Las Vegas casinos? ******* dumb fvck. These kids don't shave points for millions of dollars. They shave points for 10k. Fvck they sign to colleges for less.

I haven't seen you give these forums one solid gameday pick ever. I've put my mouth and money on the line several times this year here on these forums.

GTFO Tolstoy.

You seem upset.
 
Nice thesis.

Didn't read past the first sentence. I personally know Stevin Smith ASU.

Lick my bawls you fvckin idiot. You think it takes a grand conspiracy to shave points? All it takes is a greedy player.

Do you even know how to use google you ******* ******? "Huge bets ahead of time"...lmfao....you are a doozy.

You think the only betting in America happens in Las Vegas casinos? ******* dumb fvck. These kids don't shave points for millions of dollars. They shave points for 10k. Fvck they sign to colleges for less.

I haven't seen you give these forums one solid gameday pick ever. I've put my mouth and money on the line several times this year here on these forums.

GTFO Tolstoy.

You seem upset.

Dude acts like he's Jimmy the ******* Greek. Gimmie a pick btich.

I'm Jimmy the fvckin Rustled!
 
I think Jameis is too damned stupid to participate in something like this.

He's proven to be a real genius criminal mind. Not.

I was just going to say that I can't see anyone (even in the MENSA hotbed of Tally) dumb enough to trust JameIsGuilty's intelligence to be an active participant in something like this. Those BC hoops kids in that 30 for 30 couldn't even pull it off properly. I'm down with anyone that wants to start this rumor about Frank Haith when he was our hoops corch though.
 
No worries...TPD will conduct an investigation.

Louisville has jurisdiction. Feds might too

/still convinced Tahj Boyd shaved several games last year including at South Carolina
Guy was in debt to bookies too
 
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John Hot Rod Williams, and the 1984-1985 Tulane basketball team say point shaving exists.
 
That article is a joke. Aside from that, Craburglar doesn't seem to be the type to throw a game. He's not Adrian McPherson (who was indebted tens of thousands to a campus bookie -- one of whom happened to be working with the FSU baseball team). Craburglar is clearly an idiot and believes he is above the law. He'll rape, pillage, and lie. But he loves football and winning. And he knows he will be rich as balls in under a year. No chance.

Disagree totally. Jameis is ABSOLUTELY the type to throw a HALF! Remember ...it was just a HALF. he is ****y and good enough to feel like he'd still be able to win it in the second half.
 
Hey, kid has to eat. Publix cut off his free crabs, ncaa blew up his collectible revenue, so poor baby has been forced into life of crime to get his crab legs.
 
Why would you think a 20 year old having bb gun fights in a crowded residential area is too intelligent to do something stupid? $5k in Tally is a nice score.
 
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This guy is too stupid to point shave.

Would be funny if it were true though.
 
Even if he did he will never get caught. Point shaving happens every week in every sport. BFD.

LOL. Fantastic. I was just going to post that anyone who believes in widespread point shaving is a world class idiot. You made my point for me.

Too many variables to successfully point shave in a team sport like football with 22 players on the field at all times. Only a quarterback would have enough influence to do it, and even then it wouldn't be a guarantee.

As always, keep in mind all the variables required. The plan has to be cemented well ahead of time. Huge bets made, minus suspicion. Obviously it makes no sense to acquire all the risk with a modest potential profit. In football with so few scoring plays there is so much vulnerability. You can tell the quarterback to dump but if the defense is dominating it might not matter. That's particularly true in college football with such drastically different levels of talent from team to team.

It simply makes no sense. Conspiracies work behind closed doors when nobody is allowed to view. The numbers are concealed and faked. I always get a kick out of the JFK conspiracy geniuses who propose simultaneous coordinated shots from multiple angles in front of thousands of witnesses, to the point nobody will agree on the number of shots, and so fully thought out and perfectly executed that they knew exactly what the bullet holes would look like and therefore how to conspire and fake in the subsequent stages. Quite remarkable.

As always, the simple explanation is most likely to be true. Florida State falls behind because they are on the road against a stingy defensive team in prime time. Wow. Must be rigged. As a first half bettor this is borderline hysterical to me because first half lines have such low betting limits. Yet a Heisman winner and high NFL draft pick is going to risk it all...

The fewer the participants and greater influence of one or two major players, the greater opportunity for fraud. Basketball with only 5 players on the court per team is the obvious target among team sports. Boxing is perfect since you get one guy to dump and it's over. Tennis has potential for the same reason. With tournaments every week I was always surprised it took so long for tennis to come under scrutiny. There have been several suspicious betting patterns in obscure matches in recent years.

During my Las Vegas years I was impressed that fixing was virtually never a topic among locals. I can think of only a handful of times, generally by bitter deadbeats. Once you live there and experience all the ridiculous ways to win and lose a bet, you grasp all the oddities and come to accept them as merely part of normal sporting distribution.

From afar the same uninformed types who assign mysterious sophistication to oddsmaking likewise wants to cynically believe that non-stop scheming is going on, sporting voodoo. That way if they lose a major bet or opinion, it's not their fault. It was altered. Can't fault me if my handicapping was brilliant but unforeseen devious forces chose to tilt it the other way.

And here come the FSU fans trying to cover for their boy
 
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