Rosier Running the 1s Today

It's amazing how some continue to make excuses for Perry's performances, just to keep the narrative that he is a good QB going. He has looked lousy in every game he has played. (including FSU). I just don't get some people's infatuation with this guy. What game are they watching?
Couldn't agree more. Yet I still hear people on this site almost daily refer to how Perry won that FSU game for us. No he didn't, our D holding them to 45yds in the entire 2nd half did. Perry was better that day than he was vs UVA or Duke, but he wasn't very good.
 
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Couldn't agree more. Yet I still hear people on this site almost daily refer to how Perry won that FSU game for us. No he didn't, our D holding them to 45yds in the entire 2nd half did. Perry was better that day than he was vs UVA or Duke, but he wasn't very good.

I disagree. Perry showed some toughness and made some gutsy throws in that game. I uploaded an article a while ago on 247 sports after that game and it broke down the mechanics and intelligence that Perry brought to that game. That pass to Brevin was set up by Perry looking the safety over to Thomas and then he released an absolute killer throw to Brevin.

He has the tools to be a very good QB but he is being taught by two boneheaded coaches (Jon and Mark) who have done their best to kill off any confidence this kid may have had after good games at UNC and FSU. This season became "over" when Richt switched to Rosier after Perry got off to a bad start in the VA game. ****, Richt probably should have stayed with Rosier after the Toledo game but he gave in to public pressure.

It is unfair for anyone to sit on here and judge this kid (other than on the videos he is releasing because they are just plain stupid) on how he played most recently in the Duke game. He was put in the game in some horrible conditions and I'm sure his confidence has taken a major hit since I'm sure he has been told not to make a mistake or he will be benched again. He still made some pretty good throws and if not for Cager pushing off, he might have brought us back in that game.

If you have a problem with Perry (other than the videos) I believe you should redirect any issues you have with that kid to Mark Richt and his son. They have done more harm than good to this kid and that's not up for debate.
 
I disagree. Perry showed some toughness and made some gutsy throws in that game. I uploaded an article a while ago on 247 sports after that game and it broke down the mechanics and intelligence that Perry brought to that game. That pass to Brevin was set up by Perry looking the safety over to Thomas and then he released an absolute killer throw to Brevin.

He has the tools to be a very good QB but he is being taught by two boneheaded coaches (Jon and Mark) who have done their best to kill off any confidence this kid may have had after good games at UNC and FSU. This season became "over" when Richt switched to Rosier after Perry got off to a bad start in the VA game. ****, Richt probably should have stayed with Rosier after the Toledo game but he gave in to public pressure.

It is unfair for anyone to sit on here and judge this kid (other than on the videos he is releasing because they are just plain stupid) on how he played most recently in the Duke game. He was put in the game in some horrible conditions and I'm sure his confidence has taken a major hit since I'm sure he has been told not to make a mistake or he will be benched again. He still made some pretty good throws and if not for Cager pushing off, he might have brought us back in that game.

If you have a problem with Perry (other than the videos) I believe you should redirect any issues you have with that kid to Mark Richt and his son. They have done more harm than good to this kid and that's not up for debate.
And there it is again, the excuse making for Perry. You make some valid points, but it ignores the possibility that Perry may just not be a very good D1 QB.
 
We should promote Jon Richt to offensive coordinator. I'm sure he's brilliant!
 
And there it is again, the excuse making for Perry. You make some valid points, but it ignores the possibility that Perry may just not be a very good D1 QB.

Excuse for Perry? Naw. I just see the potential the kid has if he had good coaching to go with it. All I'm saying is that people want to point at VA and Duke and say that is his norm. I choose to believe his norm is between what you saw at UNC and FSU and what you also saw at VA and Duke. I believe he has the mentality of a gunslinger and with that mentality comes the good and the bad. The good is that he will make plays resulting in first downs and points in games that most average QB's can't do. The bad is that he will put balls in harms way and when he is on a cold spell, it can take him a little bit of time to get right again.

I have seen enough to believe that he can be a good to very good D1 QB but only if he wants to put the work into it. He also need the right coaching to help him achieve his potential. I just wonder if he will put the time in and if he will get that coaching here because right now I don't see either of those things happening.
 
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I'm not rallying for Perry I'm just over the Savior **** and can see the real issue outside of Manurity isn't the QB. Go back and watch the UNC or VT games in 2016. Same **** we were seeing from the QB position then we see now, but people are trying to scapegoat Perry now. I hope when Jarren plays he is the **** savior to rescue my eyes from the garbage Wreck it Richt has inflected on them. But gun to my head I don't think the fourth string qb is going to be any different. especially when fans will just scapegoat him for the ills of the trash offense his coaches have been putting on the field for years. I honestly expected you to be ahead of the times when it came to player bashing in defense of a trash coach but right now you're playing both side chise.
You’re clearly not paying attention to a thing I’ve said. Rickety is absolute trash. And Perry is a total disaster. Both of those two points can be true at the same time.

He looked like he was facing the 85 Bears and not a horrible defense that gave up 54 points to mediocre Pitt the week before. Is it all Rickety’s fault that Perry is a total abomination? I don’t know.

I feel like whoever we play at QB is going to look like **** in Rickety’s busted system. But, at this point, I just want to see what the other 2 can do. Perry’s awful for whatever reader right now. We’re talking about Duke.

I find it hard to believe given your contempt for Rickety that you think: a. Perry will improve to the point of being competent under him this year; and b. That you trust Rickety’s evaluation that Jarren isn’t as good as Perry or Rosier.
 
So you want to burn the redshirt in order to beat GT in a season that already has four losses? That makes sense.

Redshirt talk with a highly-recruited QB is about as stupid as he theory that Rickety is trying to sabotage the season. A guy like Williams won’t be here 5 years, and, if he is, it’ll just mean he’s awful.
 
So I heard read something today that I found mind boggling. Jon Richt is 28 years old. That means CMR hires his son to be the QB coach at a P5 football school at 25 years old. How the F*ck did Blake James allow that to happen?
 
Rosier shouldn't take another snap the rest of the season unless it's on the scout team. This is beyond embarrassing and frustrating. Really putting a premium on practice by trotting out the reincarnation of Kirby Freeman and taking away snaps from the young QB's.
 
Excuse for Perry? Naw. I just see the potential the kid has if he had good coaching to go with it. All I'm saying is that people want to point at VA and Duke and say that is his norm. I choose to believe his norm is between what you saw at UNC and FSU and what you also saw at VA and Duke. I believe he has the mentality of a gunslinger and with that mentality comes the good and the bad. The good is that he will make plays resulting in first downs and points in games that most average QB's can't do. The bad is that he will put balls in harms way and when he is on a cold spell, it can take him a little bit of time to get right again.

I have seen enough to believe that he can be a good to very good D1 QB but only if he wants to put the work into it. He also need the right coaching to help him achieve his potential. I just wonder if he will put the time in and if he will get that coaching here because right now I don't see either of those things happening.
Well explained. I just haven't seen anything on the field that has made me feel like he is a star in the making. Yes, that safety look off and throw to Brevin in FSU game was fantastic. He also rifled a ball down the sideline for a long 1st down while rolling out in the game before which was a throw Rosier couldn't make if his life depended on it. But I've also seen a kid who often looks like a deer in headlights under center in games, has a tough time even getting to a 2nd read, locks into his target from the second the ball is snapped in the vast majority of times he passes, and has missed as many passes as he's made. So as of now, and that's all we've got is what we've seen so far, I haven't seen enough to jump on the bandwagon that he is some potential superstar. If it weren't the fact he is being compared to Malik's play, I'm not sure many would be feeling that way about him either. I also agree he's faced a very sh-tty situation this year, no doubt.
 
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So tired of this QB carousel.


Doesn't really seem to be a carousel...richt seems dug in with the 14th
You’re always rallying for Perry. What has he done to convince you he should be eating up reps? You make it seem like such a no brained that Perry should be playing.

No one wants Rosier playing, but all Perry has done is show he’s even worse. His performance against Puke was Kirby Freeman’esque. Brought back memories of Kirby v. NCSU.

Preach brotha preach.
 
1. Rosier is gone after this year
2. The season is already lost
3. Rosier is awful
4. There are 2 freshmen behind him

It should be Perry and Williams sharing halves the rest of the way. Give them valuable live game reps while evaluating what you have in both.

If you look at the totality of the circumstances, the most obvious answer sadly is that Richt is trying to get fired or has dementia.
He knows he's not gonna get fired so in reality there is no pressure to REALLY actually make changes.

We will see some superficial window dressing over the off season and everyone will get all bonered up about the new OC. But in reality not much will change production wise and I highly doubt our defense will be as stout next season as they are right now.

Sitck our fingers in our bums and pull out a plum.
 
You’re clearly not paying attention to a thing I’ve said. Rickety is absolute trash. And Perry is a total disaster. Both of those two points can be true at the same time.

He looked like he was facing the 85 Bears and not a horrible defense that gave up 54 points to mediocre Pitt the week before. Is it all Rickety’s fault that Perry is a total abomination? I don’t know.

I feel like whoever we play at QB is going to look like **** in Rickety’s busted system. But, at this point, I just want to see what the other 2 can do. Perry’s awful for whatever reader right now. We’re talking about Duke.

This is my point. I'm going to spoiler this
Richts mediocre calling is good enough to win these games. Mediocre QB play and drops are killing this offense.
Richt has been bad but if you put Turbinsky on our team we would be putting up points.

Kayaa primary strength was his accuracy and he's lost his touch. But the worst part is that he's very inaccurate at the worst possible moments in the game.
Worst presence ever
I counted six just putrid passes to wide open receivers that are certain drive extenders or touchdowns by Kaaya this week alone.
And why does he look worse with a dedicated qb coach? How much is Richt's son making again?
No pocket awareness at all. He can't feel the pressure from the backside. Worst I have ever seen.

What about the people calling for Malik

If Kaaya is the starter in 2017, I'm defecting to the Dark Side, if I haven't done it already by then.

Thats just a "F--- You!" to the fans. CMR doesnt need to tank a season as an excuse to get another year (like Radio and Folden did almost every year)

This would mean that CMR's QB recruit is a dud (if he is not better than Kaaya next season, CMR failed recruiting wise).

NO WAY will we have any chance of success next year with Kaaya. Teams are already on to us, the gig is up. Kaaya gives every opponent what a General would call a "Force Multiplier". Lesser teams now have a great chance to beat us every game, and they know it.

AND:

Could Malik be ANY worse than Kaaya? In our current offense, no pass plays are difficult. Kaaya was whiffing on 3 yard tosses to the flats. If Malik can run as fast as I can, he adds a dimension that we absolutely do not have now, and 2 or 3 scrambles would probably have won us the FSU and UNC games.

Just having him at QB takes away every opponents game plan. Teams are actually basing their offense around how bad our O is.


Can he be worse than Kaaya?

We are running a 1970's Pop Warner offense now, and kaaya cant execute at all. No way Malik is that bad?
Hopefully Kaaya leaves

He's just so average it hurts
No sense of urgency. No pocket presence.

I honestly believe he would have won the game tonight. He would have been able to avoid sacs, use his legs to give us first downs and throw easy short completions to our WR's and TE's. I also like his competitiveness and toughness. He may not have Kayaa's arm strength but he is smart and athletic.
it's time

Deserves a chance. Can he be much worse? Especially since our season is already in the toilet.
Rosier doesn't have the touch/anticipation that Brad has, but Brads pocket presence is god awful.

If they bench Brad for Rosier the team chemistry might blowup, at the same time if a player is crapping the bed you have to sit him down
If our backups cant unseat Kaaya, we are in for a much longer rebuild than anyone expected. It's like watching Berlin, everyone screaming for Crudup or Wright, only to find out those two were much worse.
Couldn't have been much worse that's for sure.

Kaka giving a golf clap and wanting to run off the field on 4th down sums him up perfectly.
It is blatantly obvious that Rosier can't do what Richt would like him to, because Richt starts Kaaya.

We don't have a competent backup so get used to Kaaya.
it only took a couple minutes to got back to see what everyones eyes were telling them about the QB position two years ago even though Miami wasn't facing the 85 Bears. They were losing at home to garbage **** teams like UNC without multiple defensive starters. honestly if it wasn't so depressing I'd laugh at the fact that if you just change the names involved it's the same **** being said now.

D is my guy, but that last quote I reposted is disturbing. Remember how glowing all the reports about Brad and the offense were before the season when the QB was in a protective bubble. Balls weren't hitting the ground supposedly. When the real games started the offense was like 10 years of constipation until halftime of the ND game when we were getting are **** kicked by a garbage ND team. Richt finally changed his approach and the offense finally looked redeemable. Richt wouldn't doesn't open the "playbook" for Malik or Perry because they're dumb apparently. However Richt had a three year starter at QB, who was getting preseason hype as one of the best qb in the country, was a film addict and he wouldn't open up the offense for him. Why oh why would anyone expect him to do it for Cade or Jarren. So were just going to through another kid out to the slaughter to get ruined for what? Because people are just hoping **** will finally stick to the wall and just works.

Sorry I'm not sticking up for Perry and dismissing his bad play. I won't say he sucks because I've seen how an incompetent coach can ruin a kid. **** it's still people on this board who trash Chick and Howard even though both made it to the league. Honestly if Malik wasn't physically limited and a 5th year season I'd back him more, because I know Richt and Jr have failed him aswell. Maybe Jarren is the savior but I'm more inclined to believe he'll look just as ill prepared as all the other qbs have looked under wreck it Richt. I don't need to keep allowing fresh ingredients to get ruined by a bad chef before I say get his **** out of my kitchen.
 
This is my point. I'm going to spoiler this
What about the people calling for Malik
it only took a couple minutes to got back to see what everyones eyes were telling them about the QB position two years ago even though Miami wasn't facing the 85 Bears. They were losing at home to garbage **** teams like UNC without multiple defensive starters. honestly if it wasn't so depressing I'd laugh at the fact that if you just change the names involved it's the same **** being said now.

D is my guy, but that last quote I reposted is disturbing. Remember how glowing all the reports about Brad and the offense were before the season when the QB was in a protective bubble. Balls weren't hitting the ground supposedly. When the real games started the offense was like 10 years of constipation until halftime of the ND game when we were getting are **** kicked by a garbage ND team. Richt finally changed his approach and the offense finally looked redeemable. Richt wouldn't doesn't open the "playbook" for Malik or Perry because they're dumb apparently. However Richt had a three year starter at QB, who was getting preseason hype as one of the best qb in the country, was a film addict and he wouldn't open up the offense for him. Why oh why would anyone expect him to do it for Cade or Jarren. So were just going to through another kid out to the slaughter to get ruined for what? Because people are just hoping **** will finally stick to the wall and just works.

Sorry I'm not sticking up for Perry and dismissing his bad play. I won't say he sucks because I've seen how an incompetent coach can ruin a kid. **** it's still people on this board who trash Chick and Howard even though both made it to the league. Honestly if Malik wasn't physically limited and a 5th year season I'd back him more, because I know Richt and Jr have failed him aswell. Maybe Jarren is the savior but I'm more inclined to believe he'll look just as ill prepared as all the other qbs have looked under wreck it Richt. I don't need to keep allowing fresh ingredients to get ruined by a bad chef before I say get his **** out of my kitchen.
I’m not even sure what you’re arguing with me about. I think Rickety is garbage, and so do you. I think he makes good players look like **** because of his system just like Doritos and Folden did. You feel the same way.

I just don’t get your caping for Perry like he’s some sort of automatic. He looked like a clogged toilet against a horrible Puke team that Pitt put 54 on the week prior. He’s looked pretty bad every time he’s played. He was horrible in the scrimmages too.

Both known options at QB are garbage. To claim one is a significantly better option than the other reeks of “I put all my chips on Perry two years ago and have dug my heels in on him to keep my rep as a football genius.” I’m good with taking my chance with one of the unknown options because both known options stink like vomit right now.
 
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