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How about we not let them score? That's a thought.

And it seems like every team we play throws down the U. This Duke kid just got creative.
 
TimeBum said:
If/when Cristobal does get a bunch of dawgs on the team who take losing very personally, it won't be long before he has a mutiny on his hands once the players get fed up with the terrible scheme, game planning, and constant losing to much less talented teams.

Having worked at places with good management and places with bad management - as a rule, the brightest and most talented people are the first to leave when there is bad management because they have no reason to stick around when they have opportunities all over the place. The worst workers, the ones who aren't getting job offers left and right, are the employees that management will reward for having "loyalty" and not chasing better opportunities.

Long story short - for those who think the solution to Cristobals woeful offense and defense is players who care more - Be careful what you wish for.
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you got a great point
maybe thats why the staff gets away with mediocre coaching all these years
bc we dont recruits "dogs"
 
WanderFranco said:
So what is the theory for how a proven head coach takes a player and now cause him to drop a football? I mean, which drill causes you to now drop a football that you used to be able to hold on to?
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It’s very clear that whatever Mario and his corching staff are doing, it doesn’t work. Maybe it worked at Oregon but he only brought two coaches with him from Oregon so maybe it was those assistants who deserve the credit for him going 12-2?

This wasn’t a great team last year but at least it wasn’t embarrassingly terrible. Once again, there was very little roster turnover, especially on offense. So a new corching staff comes in and the team gets worse but you’re blaming the players.

They blamed the players under Golden Richt and Diaz too at first. Then after three or four years and the team still sucked they finally realize the problem wasn’t the players.
 
At this point it is amusing that rival teams even do the upside down U making it like beating this team is some great accomplishment. This program has rotted from the inside out, yet people still want to look at the efforts of the players as that is the core issue. People in the know spoke many, many years ago about the rot in the program, I didn't believe it at the time, but they were right. We have been a shell of what we were since.

This program reeks of Donna beaming at the check from Nevin, and a ticket man as AD. It runs like a political party when donations are begged for, received, yet the product produced only gets worse, so more money, and higher paid people are needed to fix it, but it only gets worse. We have former people to police the program, bring back the past, yet we have fallen further with their presence. The ponzi scheme here was not Nevin, it is the people running the program.

The school has lived off the past, but failed to produce anything worth the reputation or legacy of 20 years of domination. Instead they used it to get contracts and produce as little as possible in return. Great players came through the doors in that time, many left undervalued as a result, some may have never had a chance due to the lack of proper development. That did not concern the greedy at the top, they cashed their checks and applauded mediocre bowl games if we made them, even when we have a 10 bowl game losing streak.

To the brass, it was better to just be okay, then to deal with a headstrong coach and issues it could bring. Winning is not important, revenue sharing is. Don't blame the players for wanting to promote their brand, wanting the NIL money, and not caring about an upside down U, this has been taught from the top down for decades now, it is our culture. There is a reason we do not do coaching searches and it is because what I said before and was blasted for it. This program wants yes men. Do your job, get paid, get your parachute. Just like the grifters that walk the halls building culture within the program. If they were building culture, then why does Mario have so many guys with culture issues, who could care less as Brett points out. This does not start with the players, it does not start with the CEO, it starts at the top, and the top could give two *****.
 
SSCane said:
How about starting with not turning the ball over 8 times in a game. Or how about not committing 17 penalties in a single game. Or how about not letting MTSU receivers continually getting behind you in coverage.
I get it this coaching staff is not very good, especially on offense but these players take some responsibility for these loses too. There seems to be a different issue that comes up every game.
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You say this coaching staff isn't very good. This puzzles me. Every one of our coaches has been successful and a very high level. This fan base has been *****ing for years that we never bring in coaches who have done it at a high level. Well now we have a staff loaded with coaches who check that box. Do you think they collectively forgot how to coach? What do you think is the difference between where they were successful and now? It's the players.
 
DTP said:
It’s very clear that whatever Mario and his corching staff are doing, it doesn’t work. Maybe it worked at Oregon but he only brought two coaches with him from Oregon so maybe it was those assistants who deserve the credit for him going 12-2?

This wasn’t a great team last year but at least it wasn’t embarrassingly terrible. Once again, there was very little roster turnover, especially on offense. So a new corching staff comes in and the team gets worse but you’re blaming the players.

They blamed the players under Golden Richt and Diaz too at first. Then after three or four years and the team still sucked they finally realize the problem wasn’t the players.
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It was made clear to me that accountability starts at the top. So if we're going to blame him for destroying Miami, then he gets credit for winning the Pac12.

There was nothing in your post that indicates what a coaching staff could do during the week to make football players worse than they already are.
 
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Srcanes93 said:
You say this coaching staff isn't very good. This puzzles me. Every one of our coaches has been successful and a very high level. This fan base has been *****ing for years that we never bring in coaches who have done it at a high level. Well now we have a staff loaded with coaches who check that box. Do you think they collectively forgot how to coach? What do you think is the difference between where they were successful and now? It's the players.
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This is their logic:

Mario took northwest talent and won the Pac12 and the Rose Bowl, but if you give him MORE talent at Miami, he can't even beat a terrible team like MTSU.

That is literally their argument.
 
DTP said:
It’s very clear that whatever Mario and his corching staff are doing, it doesn’t work. Maybe it worked at Oregon but he only brought two coaches with him from Oregon so maybe it was those assistants who deserve the credit for him going 12-2?

This wasn’t a great team last year but at least it wasn’t embarrassingly terrible. Once again, there was very little roster turnover, especially on offense. So a new corching staff comes in and the team gets worse but you’re blaming the players.

They blamed the players under Golden Richt and Diaz too at first. Then after three or four years and the team still sucked they finally realize the problem wasn’t the players.
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Have you ever considered under Manny there wasn't accountability and now the new big boy coaching staff is putting big boy pressure on the players and they don't like it?

Mario and the staff know this team for the most part is a bunch of guys who have been coddled their whole life being told they will be stars so they come in thinking they can do whatever and don't have to work hard. They all thought they would put on that U and then go to the NFL. The difference between most teams isn't necessarily talent. It's players willing to put in the real work to be better than everyone else. That's Mario's challenge. Get the players who want to outwork their opponents and their own teammates.
 
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MiamiVice7 said:
This is nothing new. And I mean both the celebration and the “new low” loss.

How about UNC last season? 7,634 rushing yards given up and countless upside down Us.
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.... I think the point is the celebration has not gotten "worse" that it's not just an upside down "U"—but a Dukie player kicked it up a notch by smashing over his knee.
 
WanderFranco said:
It was made clear to me that accountability starts at the top. So if we're going to blame him for destroying Miami, then he gets credit for winning the Pac12.

There was nothing in your post that indicates what a coaching staff could do during the week to make football players worse than they already are.
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How can a staff make players worse? Considering it’s their job to make players as good as they can be, pretty much everything they do can make players perform worse. Poor technique practice. Poor film study requirements. Poor physical training and diet. Poor communication. Poor player accountability. Poor play and scheme design. Poor personnel decisions. I mean, there’s dozens of ways bad coaching can make a team worse. If players just got better by themselves, why bother hiring coaches? I’m not at practice or in the film room so I can’t tell you specifically why they’re failing but it’s blatantly obvious they’re failing badly.
 
DTP said:
How can a staff make players worse? Considering it’s their job to make players as good as they can be, pretty much everything they do can make players perform worse. Poor technique practice. Poor film study requirements. Poor physical training and diet. Poor communication. Poor player accountability. Poor play and scheme design. Poor personnel decisions. I mean, there’s dozens of ways bad coaching can make a team worse. If players just got better by themselves, why bother hiring coaches? I’m not at practice or in the film room so I can’t tell you specifically why they’re failing but it’s blatantly obvious they’re failing badly.
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Right, it's all speculation. And somehow we're making the claim that a 12 win P5 coach doesn't know how to do any of those things.

Which is more likely: (a) we have talented kids who want to work hard and win, but Mario's strategy that won big somewhere else actually has negative results, or (b) we have a locker room full of guys who don't give a ^%$#.
 
Srcanes93 said:
Have you ever considered under Manny there wasn't accountability and now the new big boy coaching staff is putting big boy pressure on the players and they don't like it?

Mario and the staff know this team for the most part is a bunch of guys who have been coddled their whole life being told they will be stars so they come in thinking they can do whatever and don't have to work hard. They all thought they would put on that U and then go to the NFL. The difference between most teams isn't necessarily talent. It's players willing to put in the real work to be better than everyone else. That's Mario's challenge. Get the players who want to outwork their opponents and their own teammates.
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What kind of accountability is Mario putting on his players? Who are they players who aren’t putting in the work and why are they playing? Who’s getting benched? Who’s being punished? I don’t see anyone being held accountable. I see a bunch of bs tough talk from coaches and excuse making while they continue to get crushed by teams that suck. They’re not even getting beat by good teams.
 
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