If you only see them/hear them on ESPN I completely agree with most of y'all on here... But a few years ago I met mark May at a horse track outside Phoenix... He was actually pretty cool in person... & we actually talked for a few minutes about college football/ the canes/ ESPN... & of course he's going to "talk up" Pitt a little bit & of course he has his little biased here & there... But he did give me this gem about all the shows on ESPN... Like any other tv show... They have writers... They have scripts... Not really word for word per say... But they are kinda told where to agree on some things & where they have to disagree... & given whatever "stats" to support whichever argument they are supposed to be on... So really guys the problem is more with ESPN & their agenda more than the ex players they hire to make "experts".... Ps mark May won big that day & bought this canes fan a beer & was pretty cool