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So are they going to change the rule for Howard Schnellenberger too?
Of course not.
Beat me to it.So are they going to change the rule for Howard Schnellenberger too?
Of course not.
They moved it from 60% to 59.5%, Schnelly was 51.1%, Leach was 59.6%. Win% for a guy like Leach or Schnelly is a joke considering their impact on the gameBeat me to it.
I was wondering what Schnellenberger's % was and what they lowered it to.
Thank you for looking it up! 100% agree that it’s a ridiculous and arbitrary rule that doesn’t make any sense.They moved it from 60% to 59.5%, Schnelly was 51.1%, Leach was 59.6%. Win% for a guy like Leach or Schnelly is a joke considering their impact on the game
Am I crazy to think the win% qualifier isn’t necessary? In what scenario are they saying sorry coach but your 30% win% means you can’t enter. Why would that coach even be up for consideration?They moved it from 60% to 59.5%, Schnelly was 51.1%, Leach was 59.6%. Win% for a guy like Leach or Schnelly is a joke considering their impact on the gameBeat me to it.
I was wondering what Schnellenberger's % was and what they lowered it to.
Marino is in the HOF without a ring so while I DO think SB wins matter they aren't my ONLY data point like the CFB HOF and win%Thank you for looking it up! 100% agree that it’s a ridiculous and arbitrary rule that doesn’t make any sense.
It’s like those kids who argue that Super Bowl rings are the definitive proof of a QBs quality, thus Eli Manning is a better QB than Dan Marino.
I agree. Paul Johnson's win% is 59% at the FBS level, does FCS count for him?Am I crazy to think the win% qualifier isn’t necessary? In what scenario are they saying sorry coach but your 30% win% means you can’t enter. Why would that coach even be up for consideration?
There should be room for innovators, program builders, etc that are qualified to get in based on overall impact. Would someone even be considered an innovator if their “innovation” caused them to lose all the time? Kind of seems self explanatory.
Yeah, I’m not talking about NFL HOF though. There’s a huge segment of the younger generation that believes that players with rings > players without rings no matter what, in any sport. That’s all. It was probably a bad analogy though.Marino is in the HOF without a ring so while I DO think SB wins matter they aren't my ONLY data point like the CFB HOF and win%
I mean even Cristobal. I believe he has a long career ahead of him, but he currently stands at .551. If you just looked at FIU at face value, sub .400, you’d think it wasn’t a great tenure. But turning that program around made a huge impact. Winning multiple PAC12 championships at Oregon. Rebuilding Miami, going to national championship….I think eventually he’ll get over 59.5, but does it mean he’s a bad coach now because he rebuilt multiple programs?I agree. Paul Johnson's win% is 59% at the FBS level, does FCS count for him?Am I crazy to think the win% qualifier isn’t necessary? In what scenario are they saying sorry coach but your 30% win% means you can’t enter. Why would that coach even be up for consideration?
There should be room for innovators, program builders, etc that are qualified to get in based on overall impact. Would someone even be considered an innovator if their “innovation” caused them to lose all the time? Kind of seems self explanatory.
Really Leach is 100%. College football knows that if he coached Miami he would never have lost a gameThey moved it from 60% to 59.5%, Schnelly was 51.1%, Leach was 59.6%. Win% for a guy like Leach or Schnelly is a joke considering their impact on the game
Cristobal hasn’t won chit or innovated chit. Copying Saban’s 2012 program manual without the same results ≠ HOF levels of innovation.I mean even Cristobal. I believe he has a long career ahead of him, but he currently stands at .551. If you just looked at FIU at face value, sub .400, you’d think it wasn’t a great tenure. But turning that program around made a huge impact. Winning multiple PAC12 championships at Oregon. Rebuilding Miami, going to national championship….I think eventually he’ll get over 59.5, but does it mean he’s a bad coach now because he rebuilt multiple programs?I agree. Paul Johnson's win% is 59% at the FBS level, does FCS count for him?Am I crazy to think the win% qualifier isn’t necessary? In what scenario are they saying sorry coach but your 30% win% means you can’t enter. Why would that coach even be up for consideration?
There should be room for innovators, program builders, etc that are qualified to get in based on overall impact. Would someone even be considered an innovator if their “innovation” caused them to lose all the time? Kind of seems self explanatory.
I understand that. My point was his win% is lower because he’s taken on 3 rebuildsCristobal hasn’t won chit or innovated chit. Copying Saban’s 2012 program manual without the same results ≠ HOF levels of innovation.I mean even Cristobal. I believe he has a long career ahead of him, but he currently stands at .551. If you just looked at FIU at face value, sub .400, you’d think it wasn’t a great tenure. But turning that program around made a huge impact. Winning multiple PAC12 championships at Oregon. Rebuilding Miami, going to national championship….I think eventually he’ll get over 59.5, but does it mean he’s a bad coach now because he rebuilt multiple programs?I agree. Paul Johnson's win% is 59% at the FBS level, does FCS count for him?Am I crazy to think the win% qualifier isn’t necessary? In what scenario are they saying sorry coach but your 30% win% means you can’t enter. Why would that coach even be up for consideration?
There should be room for innovators, program builders, etc that are qualified to get in based on overall impact. Would someone even be considered an innovator if their “innovation” caused them to lose all the time? Kind of seems self explanatory.
Oregon and Miami ain’t exactly Texas Tech Wazzu and Miss St. The Cristobrew is some strong Kool-AidI understand that. My point was his win% is lower because he’s taken on 3 rebuildsCristobal hasn’t won chit or innovated chit. Copying Saban’s 2012 program manual without the same results ≠ HOF levels of innovation.I mean even Cristobal. I believe he has a long career ahead of him, but he currently stands at .551. If you just looked at FIU at face value, sub .400, you’d think it wasn’t a great tenure. But turning that program around made a huge impact. Winning multiple PAC12 championships at Oregon. Rebuilding Miami, going to national championship….I think eventually he’ll get over 59.5, but does it mean he’s a bad coach now because he rebuilt multiple programs?I agree. Paul Johnson's win% is 59% at the FBS level, does FCS count for him?Am I crazy to think the win% qualifier isn’t necessary? In what scenario are they saying sorry coach but your 30% win% means you can’t enter. Why would that coach even be up for consideration?
There should be room for innovators, program builders, etc that are qualified to get in based on overall impact. Would someone even be considered an innovator if their “innovation” caused them to lose all the time? Kind of seems self explanatory.
You’re getting a little excited bud. I was purely using our coach as an example. I do think he’s a good coach but I also believe Cristobal has a LONG way to go to be a hall of famer. My criticism remains the win% qualifier is pointless. If the % is too low that coach would not be a candidate anyways. If coaches like Leach and Schnellenberger are even in the conversation with their “low” win%, then in my mind they should already be in. Their impact on the game has more significance than their win%. Schnellenberger **** near built two programs from scratch, and his win% took a hit during the process. That’s my point. Leach was a main driver of this new offense with a giant coaching tree which is more significant than his win%. That’s my point.Oregon and Miami ain’t exactly Texas Tech Wazzu and Miss St. The Cristobrew is some strong Kool-AidI understand that. My point was his win% is lower because he’s taken on 3 rebuildsCristobal hasn’t won chit or innovated chit. Copying Saban’s 2012 program manual without the same results ≠ HOF levels of innovation.I mean even Cristobal. I believe he has a long career ahead of him, but he currently stands at .551. If you just looked at FIU at face value, sub .400, you’d think it wasn’t a great tenure. But turning that program around made a huge impact. Winning multiple PAC12 championships at Oregon. Rebuilding Miami, going to national championship….I think eventually he’ll get over 59.5, but does it mean he’s a bad coach now because he rebuilt multiple programs?I agree. Paul Johnson's win% is 59% at the FBS level, does FCS count for him?Am I crazy to think the win% qualifier isn’t necessary? In what scenario are they saying sorry coach but your 30% win% means you can’t enter. Why would that coach even be up for consideration?
There should be room for innovators, program builders, etc that are qualified to get in based on overall impact. Would someone even be considered an innovator if their “innovation” caused them to lose all the time? Kind of seems self explanatory.
I can only go off the examples you’re offering. Rebuild + Mario is hilarious for 2/3 of his gigs.You’re getting a little excited bud. I was purely using our coach as an example. I do think he’s a good coach but I also believe Cristobal has a LONG way to go to be a hall of famer. My criticism remains the win% qualifier is pointless. If the % is too low that coach would not be a candidate anyways. If coaches like Leach and Schnellenberger are even in the conversation with their “low” win%, then in my mind they should already be in. Their impact on the game has more significance than their win%. Schnellenberger **** near built two programs from scratch, and his win% took a hit during the process. That’s my point. Leach was a main driver of this new offense with a giant coaching tree which is more significant than his win%. That’s my point.Oregon and Miami ain’t exactly Texas Tech Wazzu and Miss St. The Cristobrew is some strong Kool-AidI understand that. My point was his win% is lower because he’s taken on 3 rebuildsCristobal hasn’t won chit or innovated chit. Copying Saban’s 2012 program manual without the same results ≠ HOF levels of innovation.I mean even Cristobal. I believe he has a long career ahead of him, but he currently stands at .551. If you just looked at FIU at face value, sub .400, you’d think it wasn’t a great tenure. But turning that program around made a huge impact. Winning multiple PAC12 championships at Oregon. Rebuilding Miami, going to national championship….I think eventually he’ll get over 59.5, but does it mean he’s a bad coach now because he rebuilt multiple programs?I agree. Paul Johnson's win% is 59% at the FBS level, does FCS count for him?Am I crazy to think the win% qualifier isn’t necessary? In what scenario are they saying sorry coach but your 30% win% means you can’t enter. Why would that coach even be up for consideration?
There should be room for innovators, program builders, etc that are qualified to get in based on overall impact. Would someone even be considered an innovator if their “innovation” caused them to lose all the time? Kind of seems self explanatory.
Oregon was 4-8 when they brought him in. Miami was going in the wrong direction hard. One player drafted in the 7th round and a joke of program to national championship appearance and multiple first rounders with more on the way. It’s not like he walked into winning teams like Kirby at Georgia.I can only go off the examples you’re offering. Rebuild + Mario is hilarious for 2/3 of his gigs.You’re getting a little excited bud. I was purely using our coach as an example. I do think he’s a good coach but I also believe Cristobal has a LONG way to go to be a hall of famer. My criticism remains the win% qualifier is pointless. If the % is too low that coach would not be a candidate anyways. If coaches like Leach and Schnellenberger are even in the conversation with their “low” win%, then in my mind they should already be in. Their impact on the game has more significance than their win%. Schnellenberger **** near built two programs from scratch, and his win% took a hit during the process. That’s my point. Leach was a main driver of this new offense with a giant coaching tree which is more significant than his win%. That’s my point.Oregon and Miami ain’t exactly Texas Tech Wazzu and Miss St. The Cristobrew is some strong Kool-AidI understand that. My point was his win% is lower because he’s taken on 3 rebuildsCristobal hasn’t won chit or innovated chit. Copying Saban’s 2012 program manual without the same results ≠ HOF levels of innovation.I mean even Cristobal. I believe he has a long career ahead of him, but he currently stands at .551. If you just looked at FIU at face value, sub .400, you’d think it wasn’t a great tenure. But turning that program around made a huge impact. Winning multiple PAC12 championships at Oregon. Rebuilding Miami, going to national championship….I think eventually he’ll get over 59.5, but does it mean he’s a bad coach now because he rebuilt multiple programs?I agree. Paul Johnson's win% is 59% at the FBS level, does FCS count for him?Am I crazy to think the win% qualifier isn’t necessary? In what scenario are they saying sorry coach but your 30% win% means you can’t enter. Why would that coach even be up for consideration?
There should be room for innovators, program builders, etc that are qualified to get in based on overall impact. Would someone even be considered an innovator if their “innovation” caused them to lose all the time? Kind of seems self explanatory.
Did Mario bang your girl? WTF. Your argument(s) are ridiculously sad.I can only go off the examples you’re offering. Rebuild + Mario is hilarious for 2/3 of his gigs.
Oregon was 7-5. Stop talking to me.Oregon was 4-8 when they brought him in. Miami was going in the wrong direction hard. One player drafted in the 7th round and a joke of program to national championship appearance and multiple first rounders with more on the way. It’s not like he walked into winning teams like Kirby at Georgia.I can only go off the examples you’re offering. Rebuild + Mario is hilarious for 2/3 of his gigs.You’re getting a little excited bud. I was purely using our coach as an example. I do think he’s a good coach but I also believe Cristobal has a LONG way to go to be a hall of famer. My criticism remains the win% qualifier is pointless. If the % is too low that coach would not be a candidate anyways. If coaches like Leach and Schnellenberger are even in the conversation with their “low” win%, then in my mind they should already be in. Their impact on the game has more significance than their win%. Schnellenberger **** near built two programs from scratch, and his win% took a hit during the process. That’s my point. Leach was a main driver of this new offense with a giant coaching tree which is more significant than his win%. That’s my point.Oregon and Miami ain’t exactly Texas Tech Wazzu and Miss St. The Cristobrew is some strong Kool-AidI understand that. My point was his win% is lower because he’s taken on 3 rebuildsCristobal hasn’t won chit or innovated chit. Copying Saban’s 2012 program manual without the same results ≠ HOF levels of innovation.I mean even Cristobal. I believe he has a long career ahead of him, but he currently stands at .551. If you just looked at FIU at face value, sub .400, you’d think it wasn’t a great tenure. But turning that program around made a huge impact. Winning multiple PAC12 championships at Oregon. Rebuilding Miami, going to national championship….I think eventually he’ll get over 59.5, but does it mean he’s a bad coach now because he rebuilt multiple programs?I agree. Paul Johnson's win% is 59% at the FBS level, does FCS count for him?Am I crazy to think the win% qualifier isn’t necessary? In what scenario are they saying sorry coach but your 30% win% means you can’t enter. Why would that coach even be up for consideration?
There should be room for innovators, program builders, etc that are qualified to get in based on overall impact. Would someone even be considered an innovator if their “innovation” caused them to lose all the time? Kind of seems self explanatory.
Well, considering Danny's history...Did Mario bang your girl? WTF. Your argument(s) are ridiculously sad.