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RIP Coach Leach

Haven't even had the funeral yet.

Mississippi State has agreed to terms with Mike Leach's successor: report

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Mississippi State has agreed to terms with Mike Leach's successor: report

The Mississippi State Bulldogs have reportedly agreed to terms on a four-year deal with defensive coordinator Zach Arnett to take over after Mike Leach's death.
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My goodness the lack of deceny.

Arnett has big shoes to fill.
 
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IRememberSchnelly said:
I'm guessing we will look back at this particular milestone as a very handy hook upon which we will look back in the future and realize that this is extremely symbolic of the death of college football. Not that Mike Leach IS college football, but to a great extent he represents exactly what many of us loved about college football. I don't think there's any denying that CFB has dramatically and rapidly changed in recent years, and the pace of this change is only accelerating. This old geezer doesn't care for any of these changes, nor do I think college football has much chance at all of recapturing the passion of folks like me. RIP, Mike Leach. RIP, CFB.
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The issue is that if you loved college football in an era where the talent was treated like glorified chattel, then that's a you problem. The MOMENT college sports became a business, is when things changed. The moment that college football and basketball coaches became the highest paid state employees across the nation is when things changed. Let's stop pretending that the labor getting paid is the end of college football. The "School Pride U" nonsense was always a ruse to get people to look away as everyone else benefitted, except for the people we were actually paying to see.

Coach Leach, who brought up the inequities in college sports back when he was at TTU, saw this coming. I don't think he saw it going this far in the opposite direction, but he knew full well that you couldn't continue to keep labor locked out of the revenue pool.
 
Empirical Cane said:
Haven't even had the funeral yet.

Mississippi State has agreed to terms with Mike Leach's successor: report

www.foxnews.com

Mississippi State has agreed to terms with Mike Leach's successor: report

The Mississippi State Bulldogs have reportedly agreed to terms on a four-year deal with defensive coordinator Zach Arnett to take over after Mike Leach's death.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com


My goodness the lack of deceny.

Arnett has big shoes to fill.
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Goes to show you that life goes on and no matter who you are you probably won't be missed by anyone but your love ones.
Enjoy life while you can, make your mark and don't sweat the rest.
 
puertorricane said:
Goes to show you that life goes on and no matter who you are you probably won't be missed by anyone but your love ones.
Enjoy life while you can, make your mark and don't sweat the rest.
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Truth. They had to move on and quickly. It's a job, that's why I'm conditionally loyal to my employer because I know that if I were to drop dead tomorrow, they would be looking for my replacement within days, if not hours.
 
Canedude08 said:
The issue is that if you loved college football in an era where the talent was treated like glorified chattel, then that's a you problem. The MOMENT college sports became a business, is when things changed. The moment that college football and basketball coaches became the highest paid state employees across the nation is when things changed. Let's stop pretending that the labor getting paid is the end of college football. The "School Pride U" nonsense was always a ruse to get people to look away as everyone else benefitted, except for the people we were actually paying to see.

Coach Leach, who brought up the inequities in college sports back when he was at TTU, saw this coming. I don't think he saw it going this far in the opposite direction, but he knew full well that you couldn't continue to keep labor locked out of the revenue pool.
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Oh GTFOH with that chattel nonsense, Abraham Lincoln. Not one person in the history of collegiate sports has ever been forced to do so. Nor have any been cheated in the exchange.
 
I think it’s more for the kids on the current roster than anything. Announcing it is a bit tacky but his wife might be fully on board. Those were his kids after all. Also, keeping recruits is business side. Nature of the beast.
 
Memnon said:
- Sonny Dykes
- Art Briles
- Lincoln Riley
- Josh Heupel
- Dana Holgorsen
- Dino Babers
- Graham Harrell
- Dave Aranda
- Jeff Choate
- Greg McMackin
- Seth Littrell
- Kliff Kingsbury
- Ken Wilson
- Neal Brown
- Eric Morris
- Sonny Cumbie
- Ruffin McNeil
- Robert Anae
- Phillip Montgomery
- Tony Franklin
- Kevin Sumlin (although he’s more of a Jim Wacker disciple)
- Jake Spavital
- Bill Bedenbaugh
- Mark Mangino
- Brett Bartolone
- Matt Mumme (Hal’s son)
- Chris Hatcher
- Dave Nichol (RIP)
- Drew Hollingshead
- Clay McGuire
- Guy Morriss
- David Yost (to a lesser extent, he’s more of a Gary Pinkel disciple, but did have a stint under Leach at Wash ST)

The list goes on & on... It’s literally close to a 100+ coaches & that’s not even going into the offshoot branches, of guys who didn’t coach directly under Leach but coached under one of his students.

But it illustrates how vast his Coaching Tree really is, it has a 2nd & 3rd generation; even his Branches grew to become their own trees that have branched off into a whole other Forrest of Coaches.
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Thank you LCE. Great post as per usual. I still hope you one day return to CIS in your previous capacity. You're missed.
 
IRememberSchnelly said:
Oh GTFOH with that chattel nonsense, Abraham Lincoln. Not one person in the history of collegiate sports has ever been forced to do so. Nor have any been cheated in the exchange.
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No one forced anyone to play Major League Baseball either but it still didn't change the fact that denying people the right to participate in free market capitalism is denying opportunity. No one truly FORCES any of us to show up to work everyday, but best believe that if we are being underpaid, we aren't going to take it for long. This "No one forced you to do anything" rationale is flawed as all ****. No one forces us to do anything, but it doesn't change the fact that inequality is unacceptable, especially when it is extremely evident.

It's amazing how many people have an issue with players asking to get their rightful share of the pie, but have no problem with coaches getting paid and being able to move around as they see fit. Then again, when you look at who the typical revenue sport student athletes is, compared to the administrators and coaches and it all makes sense.

That said, this isn't the time nor thread to get into this.
 
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Memnon said:
- Sonny Dykes
- Art Briles
- Lincoln Riley
- Josh Heupel
- Dana Holgorsen
- Dino Babers
- Graham Harrell
- Dave Aranda
- Jeff Choate
- Greg McMackin
- Seth Littrell
- Kliff Kingsbury
- Ken Wilson
- Neal Brown
- Eric Morris
- Sonny Cumbie
- Ruffin McNeil
- Robert Anae
- Phillip Montgomery
- Tony Franklin
- Kevin Sumlin (although he’s more of a Jim Wacker disciple)
- Jake Spavital
- Bill Bedenbaugh
- Mark Mangino
- Brett Bartolone
- Matt Mumme (Hal’s son)
- Chris Hatcher
- Dave Nichol (RIP)
- Drew Hollingshead
- Clay McGuire
- Guy Morriss
- David Yost (to a lesser extent, he’s more of a Gary Pinkel disciple, but did have a stint under Leach at Wash ST)

The list goes on & on... It’s literally close to a 100+ coaches & that’s not even going into the offshoot branches, of guys who didn’t coach directly under Leach but coached under one of his students.

But it illustrates how vast his Coaching Tree really is, it has a 2nd & 3rd generation; even his Branches grew to become their own trees that have branched off into a whole other Forrest of Coaches.
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Deja what have you done!?
 
DTP said:
I think Mike Leach’s legacy is that he literally changed the way the game is played.

I was never a “The Pirate would kill it at Miami” guy and he was probably too stubborn for his own good but you can’t deny the impact he had on the game. Teams that called his system a “gimmick” now rush out to hire coaches to teach his passing concepts.

In a sports landscape dominated by personality-void coach speak, Mike Leach was always an interesting character and he’ll be missed by the college football world.
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Spot on.
 
Canedude08 said:
No one forced anyone to play Major League Baseball either but it still didn't change the fact that denying people the right to participate in free market capitalism is denying opportunity. No one truly FORCES any of us to show up to work everyday, but best believe that if we are being underpaid, we aren't going to take it for long. This "No one forced you to do anything" rationale is flawed as all ****. No one forces us to do anything, but it doesn't change the fact that inequality is unacceptable, especially when it is extremely evident.

It's amazing how many people have an issue with players asking to get their rightful share of the pie, but have no problem with coaches getting paid and being able to move around as they see fit. Then again, when you look at who the typical revenue sport student athletes is, compared to the administrators and coaches and it all makes sense.

That said, this isn't the time nor thread to get into this.
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Fam you just spoke a whole word with this.
 
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Still bumming about Coach Leach. A few bourbons in and started remembering he sounded really rough after Egg Bowl - I made a point of watching his postgame and the memory jogged.

Real tough to watch - I’m no Doctor but if coughing is a sign of heart failure, you’re seeing it in full force here.

Miss ya coach. Watching Egg Bowl again this weekend. Glad you went out a champ.

 
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