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Richt's rationale for a seemingly unsystematic Offense?

supacane said:
Is Rosier the bad guy for not being able to consistently convert 3rd and long and deep low percentage passes or is it the coaching staff fault for not developing an effective run game? I said it, if we can't run, the game is close or we lose. Rosier is not a completion machine. Richt offense is easy to defend if you have equal players, and at some point the blocking scheme we are using is not working. Why all the runs from the shotgun? Our OL is massive, I would think they maybe more effective running from a ACE or pistol.

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I always wondered if the protection on RPO's were affecting Miami's line from creating holes. Do they run block or pass block? I cannot stomach that stretch dive play... By the time Homer get's to the corner he's met at the line of scrimmage. With Miami's speed, we should have saw shovel passes, quick tosses to RB in the flat or WR in motion, end arounds, play action roll outside the pocket, etc.

It's also truly sad when the opposing defense shows all out LB blitz up the middle, but Rosier hands the ball off up the middle anyways. He's set on the RPO choice and the WR he's throwing to before he hikes the ball. Two times I've witnessed him scan the field. But still didn't see a wide open Berrios.
 
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The offense goes through the QB.
A Perry offense will invariably look much different, especially with even a moderately improved OL.
Malik is who he is, and Richt plans a game accordingly.
 
mcmachete said:
The offense goes through the QB.
A Perry offense will invariably look much different, especially with even a moderately improved OL.
Malik is who he is, and Richt plans a game accordingly.
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In what ways do you believe the Offense will look different? N'kosi played out of similar formations in highschool. Out of Shotgun, 4 WR single back, Empty back 5 WR set, etc. Definitely what N'kosi is comfortable doing. The questions surrounding him during recruitment revolved around him being a spread offense QB committing to play in a pro style offense.
 
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JgDaCane said:
100% rosiers fault vs Pitt. If you think anything else then you just don’t understand what your watching.
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Pitt 150 yards rushing vs. Miami 50 yards (30 yards were from Rosier). 100% on Rosier, huh......
 
ChosenOne said:
dwreck27 said:
Jarren Williams and perry licking their chops for a crack at this job next spring
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I'm going to be fearful in the spring if weeks and weeks go bye and I continue to see reports that Malik is with the 1's. We got extremely lucky this season we're not going to find this same luck twice next season. While the going is hot use this season to pull an elite class and a Miami caliber DT QB to ensure that Rosier can't win the job. There is just no way Rosier can match up if the playing field is even if Perry/Weldon knows the offense/playbook.
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Why is it luck and not attributed to great play calling that we've got so far with Rosier as our QB?
 
Tyler said:
Ivan The Terrible said:
The fact that you think that this team is a mature super team and concerned with CMR at that is funny. This is only year two, we don’t have a quality QB since he can’t hit wide open f@cking receivers, ever since hurricane Irma the team has had no break and CMR still got us this far. You should be grateful and thank God that we have CMR as our coach cause No other coach could have gotten this team where it is right now.
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Don't misinterpret what I mean... They're a mature group in the sense that last year, as well as years prior [with upperclassmen], Miami lost the close games. Miami didn't finish games. Players of the last staff were more interested in sideline snowball fights. Richt set the standard and the team bought in.
When you see the progress of those True Freshmen out there, they do not look one year removed from High School. I AM grateful for this entire staff [ST Coach, though..]

The ability to develop a player who was buried in the depth chart under Golden into an important contributor to the defense.. It speaks volumes.

My issues are my issues. No more, no less. I feel that Richt knew he was gambling the outcome of a game every time he sent Rosier out there with a vanilla scheme. Had Rosier not led winning drives in games that were only close because of Rosier, we might be looking at Perry right now. You don't send a good message to your players by benching the QB the week after back to back last second wins. Richt was right in not benching him without a more viable #2 ready. Richt was wrong to waste a possession doing it in the 4th quarter. That 3rd down play would have likely been a 1st down with Rosier.

Richt knows that Sheriff's doesn't belong on scholarship here, along with already being forthcoming to Rosier about his inabilities, Richt should have ripped up Perry's red shirt after Toledo. Have him and Rosier on the field at the same time, with Perry at 'wildcat' the way DJ was. Ease him into the system just like they did Thomas, Dallas, and Harley. Evaluate and build his confidence. If he lives up to the hype, you have a guy ready to come in when Richt decides to pull the plug on Rosier.

Anybody watch OSU's true freshman QB btw?
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He’s a redshirt freshman
 
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Despite Rosier's limitations it's obvious Richt could be more creative. There have been times in big games where he has been. I think part of the unsystematic offense is Richt wanting not to show all his cards and using just enough to try to win games. If he seems a bit unpredictable and "unsystematic " to the casual fan it certainly would appear that way to opposing dcs. I think it just gives them something more to think about as to what offense they will face. I'd expect more variety in play calling next week and some new wrinkles. At least this has been what we have seen in big games.
 
mcmachete said:
The offense goes through the QB.
A Perry offense will invariably look much different, especially with even a moderately improved OL.
Malik is who he is, and Richt plans a game accordingly.
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And it's why it's a miracle we are playing for a shot at the playoffs.
 
Can anyone tell me what is up with our running game? I don’t want to hear about Rosier missing passes. I am talking about totally dominating the game from the line of scrimmage and setting the tone. 45 total rushing yards in 15 possessions. This is reminiscent of the UNC game where we ran for 59 yards and barely beat a 1-win team. With Rosier as our quarterback, if we don’t win at the line of scrimmage, we are in trouble. We are a rhythm offense and need that consistent push.

Total yards: 45
Rosier: 31 yards (avg 2.6)
Homer: 12 yards (avg 1.7)
Dallas: 4 yards (avg 1.3)
Evan: -2 yards

Them big boys need a pep talk Saturday night.
 
Tyler said:
I couldn't quite grasp why the offense was so vanilla early on this season. I directly attributed the conservatism to why we relied on last second drives to win.

I can't remember what moment specifically, but it became apparent that Richt had to handicap the offense as much as he could to not overwhelm Rosier -- the QB whom Richt said would never play for him.

Each game, we saw minor inclusions to the playbook. I don't think it was until Georgia Tech that Rosier called an audible.

Kind of ironic that Rosier's inefficiency/inability to manage the offense kept inferior opponents in the game up to the very end, when the moxy and heart of Rosier and Co. led Miami to some really miraculous finishes.

My point is that Rosier was essentially both the villain and the hero. Nothing personal, as I respect his heart and desire to succeed.

Execution was a problem vs Pitt. But it wasn't THE problem.

I do not understand at all why Richt started incorporating new packages, pre-snap motions, wrinkles, etc vs VT and ND, only to never go back to them again.

Is it because Richt loosened Rosier's leash during VT, and got 3 interceptions as a result?

Rosier hurt his shoulder vs. UNC. Since that game, [aside from Pitt] Rosier went from 35-40 passes per game to only 20-25. If Rosier is nursing an injury, why is there no adjustments by Richt in the run game when you aren't passing it as frequently? So many SIMPLE ways to get playmakers the ball in space with the advantage of good WR blocking.

Miami showcased a nice misdirection running play vs. Notre Dame that made them lose a step reading and reacting. That allowed the O-line to open up holes, and effectively took pressure off of Malik. That wrinkle is collecting dust. There were other packages that were effective, but not used since.

Where is the consistency? What is Richt accounting for beyond the inabilities of Rosier? Is there something I'm failing to understand? Because I'm perplexed.

Many fans, jaded by the last 15 years, experienced a transition from the reality of being a dominant force in College Football, to merely hopes and dreams of being such. Yet this year -- with every obstacle met head on starting with Irma -- revealed a different culture among the program. Character. Unity. Family. A team that looks fresh at the end of a game, with recent memories of players not able to finish the game. A team that again understands the standard set before us.

There's a lot to be proud of with this young yet mature team.

But, imo, there's some cause for concern regarding the rationale behind Richt's management and execution of the Offense.
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Against Pitt we all saw the Rosier we thought we had when the season started. Rosier is limited in what he can do, injured or not. The playbook is most likely not even half opened for him. His attitude and comments following the game are a big concern for me as well.

Like you I have concerns about the play calling but Richt and company know the limitations of this team better than anyone. Rosier had several chances for the big play and couldn't connect. Miami is better than Pitt but the limitations of this team showed up on Friday.

The run game is all over the place. Homer runs against a better Notre Dame defense than Pitt has for 146 and, then against Pitt doesn't get 20 yards, if that?

The O-line is not nearly where it needs to be. IMO it is average at best. Too many 3 and outs hurts. Take the 3rd down conversion percentage, IMO it is on the O-line too. They are not strong and physical enough at the point of attack. Gaynor and Donaldson are two ballers but we need a few more studs like them for the offense to move the ball.

The bottom line for me is this....There are around 35-40 players still on the team that Golden left behind. Some of these guys are pretty **** good and with the SEC type coaching they are getting have maximized their potential. But the roster is not where it needs to be. With a starting QB who is average at best, losing your stud starting RB in Walton and playing numerous freshman... Richt and company have done a great job getting to 10-1, winning the Coastal for the first time, (they entered the ACC in 2004 I think it was), getting ranked in the top four for the first time in the Playoff Poll, playing for the ACC championship and most likely a New Years Day type of Bowl. Having a stud recruiting class coming in 2018. Not to mention beating FSU, Notre Dame and Va. Tech all in the same year!

Richt accomplishing this in his second year makes him the coach of the year. This program is ahead of schedule IMO. My own expectations were 10-2 or 9-3 and winning the Coastal this year. Richt and company have done this. We got more than we asked for... IMO. The positives of this season have far surpassed the negatives.

The best is yet to come!
 
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ChosenOne said:
Rosier complete 51% of his passes vs ACC teams. Almost of those ACC teams are in the 80's defensively.
That means out of 100 throws 51 of them will be complete
Out of the 51 completed passes (if you watched Rosier all year) I 'd say at least 15 out of 51 would be accurately thrown.
Thats how bad he is.

We're going to get smashed if we can't run the ball against Clemson.
People on here thinks Rosier is going to go off against Clemson with a 64% completion percentage 4 TD and 0 Int and win the game.
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Tyler said:
I couldn't quite grasp why the offense was so vanilla early on this season. I directly attributed the conservatism to why we relied on last second drives to win.

I can't remember what moment specifically, but it became apparent that Richt had to handicap the offense as much as he could to not overwhelm Rosier -- the QB whom Richt said would never play for him.

Each game, we saw minor inclusions to the playbook. I don't think it was until Georgia Tech that Rosier called an audible.

Kind of ironic that Rosier's inefficiency/inability to manage the offense kept inferior opponents in the game up to the very end, when the moxy and heart of Rosier and Co. led Miami to some really miraculous finishes.

My point is that Rosier was essentially both the villain and the hero. Nothing personal, as I respect his heart and desire to succeed.

Execution was a problem vs Pitt. But it wasn't THE problem.

I do not understand at all why Richt started incorporating new packages, pre-snap motions, wrinkles, etc vs VT and ND, only to never go back to them again.

Is it because Richt loosened Rosier's leash during VT, and got 3 interceptions as a result?

Rosier hurt his shoulder vs. UNC. Since that game, [aside from Pitt] Rosier went from 35-40 passes per game to only 20-25. If Rosier is nursing an injury, why is there no adjustments by Richt in the run game when you aren't passing it as frequently? So many SIMPLE ways to get playmakers the ball in space with the advantage of good WR blocking.

Miami showcased a nice misdirection running play vs. Notre Dame that made them lose a step reading and reacting. That allowed the O-line to open up holes, and effectively took pressure off of Malik. That wrinkle is collecting dust. There were other packages that were effective, but not used since.

Where is the consistency? What is Richt accounting for beyond the inabilities of Rosier? Is there something I'm failing to understand? Because I'm perplexed.

Many fans, jaded by the last 15 years, experienced a transition from the reality of being a dominant force in College Football, to merely hopes and dreams of being such. Yet this year -- with every obstacle met head on starting with Irma -- revealed a different culture among the program. Character. Unity. Family. A team that looks fresh at the end of a game, with recent memories of players not able to finish the game. A team that again understands the standard set before us.

There's a lot to be proud of with this young yet mature team.

But, imo, there's some cause for concern regarding the rationale behind Richt's management and execution of the Offense.
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If you can provide a rationale for taking a downhill runner in Homer, and running him delayed east to west against Pitt, among other defenses, set up to force Rosier to beat them...please let me know.

He has to clearly see by now that he just doesn't have an overpowering OL at the point of attack. To me, that means drawing up simple running plays that do not require sustained blocks...but who the **** knows.

He talks about how excited he gets when one "pops" after numerous short gains...he might want to look back and see how that happened. He will not be able to run that garbage against Clemson.

UM
 
Salt said:
Despite Rosier's limitations it's obvious Richt could be more creative. There have been times in big games where he has been. I think part of the unsystematic offense is Richt wanting not to show all his cards and using just enough to try to win games. If he seems a bit unpredictable and "unsystematic " to the casual fan it certainly would appear that way to opposing dcs. I think it just gives them something more to think about as to what offense they will face. I'd expect more variety in play calling next week and some new wrinkles. At least this has been what we have seen in big games.
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OMG. not another "holding the playbook back" post.. you have gotta be kidding.. 12 games into the season and we still haven't opened the playbook.
 
matty1 said:
Salt said:
Despite Rosier's limitations it's obvious Richt could be more creative. There have been times in big games where he has been. I think part of the unsystematic offense is Richt wanting not to show all his cards and using just enough to try to win games. If he seems a bit unpredictable and "unsystematic " to the casual fan it certainly would appear that way to opposing dcs. I think it just gives them something more to think about as to what offense they will face. I'd expect more variety in play calling next week and some new wrinkles. At least this has been what we have seen in big games.
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OMG. not another "holding the playbook back" post.. you have gotta be kidding.. 12 games into the season and we still haven't opened the playbook.
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I do believe it's true. Richt absolutely does not trust Rosier to make good decisions. Rosier can't make good decisions with the offense as simplified as I've ever seen one. Against Virginia Tech the offense came out changing the play at the line, end arounds. Rosier threw 3 picks the very moment Richt loosened the leash. Starting the game vs ND we showed similar looks, but with the two score lead Richt shelled the offense back up, and that's where it's been since.
 
matty1 said:
Salt said:
Despite Rosier's limitations it's obvious Richt could be more creative. There have been times in big games where he has been. I think part of the unsystematic offense is Richt wanting not to show all his cards and using just enough to try to win games. If he seems a bit unpredictable and "unsystematic " to the casual fan it certainly would appear that way to opposing dcs. I think it just gives them something more to think about as to what offense they will face. I'd expect more variety in play calling next week and some new wrinkles. At least this has been what we have seen in big games.
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OMG. not another "holding the playbook back" post.. you have gotta be kidding.. 12 games into the season and we still haven't opened the playbook.
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He has opened the playbook as much as he is willing or able. I think you misunderstood my post. You've seen different offenses week to week depending on the opponent. You see more vanilla against weaker teams but then when it comes to facing more formidable opponents he seems to open things up with more variety. You saw wild cat against ND. Jet sweeps and motion against VT. Designed QB draws, 5 wide looks, etc. Where did all this go against Pitt? So it's not like he hasn't opened the playbook. He has. It's just that he doesn't always use these plays depending on the opponent. It's like he wants to remain unpredictable and not give opposing DCs too much or maybe give them bits and pieces but nothing really coherent that they can game plan around. They have to be ready for any of the above. That was my point.
 
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