Richt has a point.....and offensive chemistry

[Hemsleysalmons]

You have the fastest player on the field and you gave him the ball 1 time in a 60 minute football game.

He has no point. This is all fixable if you just run a halfway intelligent offense.

Jt is fast. But, there are other factors to being an elite wr. Let me provide you with an example. Michael Irvin could not break 4.5 in a 40. But he was tall and very strong. He out jumped and out muscled guys defending him. He was very hard to bring down even if his catch was in “traffic”. Jt is on the small size and not the tall target desirable in today’s game. He has good hands but average strength. He is not able to out muscle a defender that is bigger than him. Many posters had him going to the hall of fame after a few games. I advised them to not be premature in their assessment of jt. I continue to have reservations on wether jt is an elite wr.

 

[MovingZen]

they scored 14, but yes our OC definitely sucks.

You're right, my bad.. and I was even at the game. I'm just so ******* fixated on the fact that I can guess what our offense is about to run I can't see past the end of my nose.

 

[Gsugradcanefan]

This isn't the old days where you can always just line up and out talent your opponent. These days it's all about scheme and the spread has been one of the great equalizers in college football. You just had a Purdue team who probably averages in the 60s in terms of recruiting rankings manhandle Ohio state, who averages top 5 in recruiting rankings. It's all about scheme and playcalling.

 

[Gsugradcanefan]

If you mongoloids have learned anything over the last 20 years of failed coaches it should be that as soon as you start hearing “the players need to execute better” that means the coach sucks and is fcked.

Or if idiot fans say things like, "he just needs to get his guys in." If a coach needs a team full of his players in order to win at a high level then he isn't a good coach.

 

[MovingZen]

Jt is fast. But, there are other factors to being an elite wr. Let me provide you with an example. Michael Irvin could not break 4.5 in a 40. But he was tall and very strong. He out jumped and out muscled guys defending him. He was very hard to bring down even if his catch was in “traffic”. Jt is on the small size and not the tall target desirable in today’s game. He has good hands but average strength. He is not able to out muscle a defender that is bigger than him. Many posters had him going to the hall of fame after a few games. I advised them to not be premature in their assessment of jt. I continue to have reservations on wether jt is an elite wr.

seriously? JT is **** near the best thing about this offense. Have you seen some of the catches he's had to make due to **** poor accuracy? Hit him in stride and you don't have to worry about out muscling a defender for the ball. Do yourself a favor and watch his highlights on youtube.

Julian Edelman is 5'10"
Deion Branch is 5'9"
Troy Brown is 5'10"
Wes Welker is 5'9"
Know who they are? Know why you know who they are? They had an accurate qb who could get the ball to them in stride.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

Jt is fast. But, there are other factors to being an elite wr. Let me provide you with an example. Michael Irvin could not break 4.5 in a 40. But he was tall and very strong. He out jumped and out muscled guys defending him. He was very hard to bring down even if his catch was in “traffic”. Jt is on the small size and not the tall target desirable in today’s game. He has good hands but average strength. He is not able to out muscle a defender that is bigger than him. Many posters had him going to the hall of fame after a few games. I advised them to not be premature in their assessment of jt. I continue to have reservations on wether jt is an elite wr.

Good point. Let's never throw to him again to find out how good he is. I'm sure every coach would do the same. When you have a player who is, without debate, the fastest player on a football field, a good coach will pretend like he's not there due to possible made up concerns about his strength. The last thing you want to do is get him into the open field where he can use his speed. Much better and more conducive for victory to just ignore him entirely.

 

[joglen15]

JT4 is not just fast. He has a great release off the line, comes in and out of his breaks really well, and has exceptional hands. Although small for an NFL, he plays a lot bigger than his listed size. He has a high-floor and his ceiling could be as good as an AB or T.Y. Best sub 6' receiver we've had since Santana.

 

[Babscanes]

This is an endless cycle of horrible coaching going on 15 years. Now there are bright spots but we cant seem to put a solid O with a solid D. Its one or the other. And ST blow, we used to own teams with ST.

I think Richt thought the talent down here would get him to the top but not without some serious upgrades in coaching.

 

[Tee3000]

If you mongoloids have learned anything over the last 20 years of failed coaches it should be that as soon as you start hearing “the players need to execute better” that means the coach sucks and is fcked.

how hard is this for anyone to understand

 

[1mg of Epi]

Look I'm disappointed in Richt also but he does have a point with the talent we have we should be able to run the most basic plays and beat teams like UVA and BC, the execution is still on the coaches to coach these guys up, but I think the play calling thing is blown out of proportion

I also saw the coaches talking about rotating too many guys and I think that's a good point also, I get we are loaded at WR but we should only play the top guys. How do you ever get into a rhythm playing multiple QB's and way too many receivers imo. Same thing with the oline. I hope I don't get killed for this post I'm not saying Richt should be O coordinator

It is very hard for an offense to run even the most basic of plays when the defense knows exactly what is coming.

Quit making excuses.

 

[NE Canes]

Look I'm disappointed in Richt also but he does have a point with the talent we have we should be able to run the most basic plays and beat teams like UVA and BC, the execution is still on the coaches to coach these guys up, but I think the play calling thing is blown out of proportion

I also saw the coaches talking about rotating too many guys and I think that's a good point also, I get we are loaded at WR but we should only play the top guys. How do you ever get into a rhythm playing multiple QB's and way too many receivers imo. Same thing with the oline. I hope I don't get killed for this post I'm not saying Richt should be O coordinator

I am really curious as to why you think the play calling is not an issue.

Have you actually taken a look at the plays that are called, when they are called and how often they are called?
How about the plays that are not called that could be successful?

Without know the answer to these questions you cannot really dismiss play calling as an issue.

 

[3GC]

I'm just saying I think the play calling this is overrated. I honestly don't care if it's basic if we are more talented (and coached better) we should destroy these teams..we can complain about play calling going against Clemson and LSU they are more evenly matched talent wise. If we were winning matchups nobody would say anything about play calls we only notice it cause we aren't winning and scoring points

Right now UM is not capable of Destroying anyone.
CMR has lost the trust of his team..

 

[joseermonfils]

I am really curious as to why you think the play calling is not an issue.

Have you actually taken a look at the plays that are called, when they are called and how often they are called?
How about the plays that are not called that could be successful?

Without know the answer to these questions you cannot really dismiss play calling as an issue.

and without knowing these answers, you can't say that it is

 

[streetja]

I also saw the coaches talking about rotating too many guys and I think that's a good point also, I get we are loaded at WR but we should only play the top guys.

You mean to tell me they ******* only started realizing this now?!!?

This honestly feels like we never fired Golden.

 

[joseermonfils]

Dont worry bout people, you speaking facts man, for people to act like coach richt dont know what he's doing is comical to me. Coach richt is right, to many on here blinded by their emotions, and worst off, these nerd websites and their mel kiperish star rankings. Its not all rosier, the facts are simple man, last year we had a more experienced offense, particularly on the o-line, mcdermont, darling, gauthier, and st. Louis, and than of course navaughn came in as a true freshman and did work. Than we had herdon, berrios, the 2 biggest outlet valves for rosier, Ahmon, jt4, with walton starting off.

That was enuff offense to help get 10 straight wins. We come to this year, we got louis at left tackle, below average, Jahir jones at guard, way below average, gauthier, solid, hayden, physically way below average and navaughn at tackle starting out, below average. With that line, that automatically told me in the spring the running game was gone be trash, and if you remember, none of the runningbacks did much. Than irvin gets hurt, so more solid blocking out the window, anybody that knows football know you need good blocking tightends, we got true freshmen trying to block, and people wondering why this offense is where its at. Add to that Ahmon being done, jt4 started out on fire but teams have gotten smart, just double him and force everybody else to prove themselves, and so far, we get what we got.

Coach richt knows how to call plays, in fact, he's doing some of his best work right now, to be able to put up points with this offense is impressive. The decline of this offense goes back to the injuries and the graduations afterwards. People screaming for perry, i never thought he should be starting, i thought he should be groomed by bringing him in on series, i could tell in the Savannah st. game. Anyway, this coaching staff is doing a great job developing the players, those already calling for coach richt's job should join the circus.

The man has only been here 2.5yrs, its obvious the talent has been upgraded, just growing pains, people who are suppose to be UM fans telling people not to go to the games and even trying to discourage recruits to come, imagine if these same sights were around when butch davis was just getting started. Can you imagine what this board would have been like after this game, but some of those same people are calling for him to be back although they would've crucified him after this:

I laugh at fans sometimes man, they all know more than Richt and can do so much better. You know how many Saban's we have on CIS, idk why the U just don't come on these boards and hire one of these guys to be the OC.

 

[NE Canes]

and without knowing these answers, you can't say that it is

But I do know these answers and I am not the only one. That's the problem.

 

[joseermonfils]

But I do know these answers and I am not the only one. That's the problem.

So you’re saying you know what plays should be called? You also understand all the defenses and what all the plays Richt is calling? Or do you just see the bubble screens and the vertical routes and think you have an understanding?

 

[kryptonite]

But players still have to win the match ups. The example of the 1st interception against BC the play gets blown up by pressure Malik gets hit and turnover. Again play calls are overrated when playing lower tier opponents we couldn't run the ball against Savannah st. is that the play calling?

If you know your OL can't move DL from freakin SSU yet you run directly at them, what would you call it? If all you learned from UVA was to throw slants, then you throw a slant every single pass play, what would you call it? What about when the defense adjusts to your slant calls, and you still throw them in a predictable way, what's that called?

As an OC, you have to be honest with yourself about the team you actually have. You can't call plays for the team you wish you had then be surprised when they don't work.

When Malik misses wide open receivers, is that lack of execution or just the fact that he's proven to be inaccurate throughout his career? When the OL can't make a hole on 3rd and short is that execution or the fact that they have never been able to bully anybody?

There are things this team cannot do, and it's Richt's job to figure out ways to score points despite not being able to do those things. A good OC uses playcalling to cover up his team's weaknesses and accentuate their strengths. Richt calls plays that accentuate what this team is bad at and fail to take advantage of their strengths. What would you call that?

 

[kryptonite]

My concern is if the current guys can't execute basic run/pass blocking what makes us think they can execute any other scheme like rollouts, motion, etc. It starts with the OL being less than average and that has to get fixed, won't happen this year, probably not next year either. We are in for one more year of average play until we have better OL personnel. Play calling is poor but that's not our top issue, probably OL, QB then play calling.

This has been my point for most of the last 2 years, but I've changed my mind.

It's inexcusable to sit around sucking while you wait for a good QB to emerge and for your OL to get better. Richt makes it even worse than it has to be by running plays that call for our team to do the things we already know they can't. OL sucks, but Richt called slow developing pass plays and runs up the middle against UVA. The only thing he learned from that was to throw quicker passes...well actually just to throw slants. He seems to think that's the only kind of quick pass there is. Anyway, he was completely shocked when BC figured out what he was doing and jumped one of them. He also never really tried to go down field. Even I know that half of why you throw those short passes is to bring the D up so you can throw behind them. Seems nobody told Richt about that one.

Point is that especially with our weaknesses, we need to be scheming to get good matchups and focus on what we can do not ask our players to do what they obviously can't.

 

[Calvin]

I laugh at fans sometimes man, they all know more than Richt and can do so much better. You know how many Saban's we have on CIS, idk why the U just don't come on these boards and hire one of these guys to be the OC.

ROFL, aint that the Truth, and than you got people demanding answers on why he starting rosier, its simple, because he's the headcoach. I respect how coach richt is running this program, he not gone air dirty laundry, people respected how he dealt with willis, but somehow they think he dont know what he's doing with right now underacheiving perry. I keep telling people let coach richt manage this team. All those people complaining, i asked some of them to let us know how much winning did schnelly, jimmy, dennis and butch did before being the headcoach here, none of them had a better resume than coach richt prior to coming here, and that was for those who want to act like coach richt was a failure at UGA. When in reality, he kind of ran into on a smaller scale what bobby bowden and switzer ran into, how many national championships would those guys have won if they didnt end up playing us. Coach richt may have had 1 or 2 by now if he didnt run into certain teams. Some of his best teams were when oscar cryer was with the gaytors, nd Bama was on the come up!