Rewatched the UNC game

[DMoney]

A few thoughts:

- We ran a ton of 12 and 22 personnel. About a month ago, WestEndZone told me that he felt we played best with two tight ends on the field. Coley must've seen the same thing, because we've been heavy with Dobard and Walford lately. Both guys are big and powerful at the point of attack while still being receiving threats, and it's no coincidence we've been so successful running the ball with them on the field. I'd like this trend to continue against FSU.

- Trevor Darling is going to be a good one. He got beat a couple times for playing too high, but for the most part he was excellent. He is blessed with long arms and a powerful lower body, and with another year in the weight room he will become a road grader.

- Phillip Dorsett had a great game without catching a ball. Not only did he have a key block on the safety on Duke's 90 yard TD, but he had several other great blocks that sprung the ballcarrier (including on Walford's catch and run). He has worked himself into a complete player who will be a hot commodity in May.

- Kaaya is deadly accurate. His throws to Walford were put in a place where only he could get the football. That's an encouraging sign with the way we've been recruiting big receivers.

 

[jerzeycane]

A few thoughts:

- We ran a ton of 12 and 22 personnel. About a month ago, WestEndZone told me that he felt we played best with two tight ends on the field. Coley must've seen the same thing, because we've been heavy with Dobard and Walford lately. Both guys are big and powerful at the point of attack while still being receiving threats, and it's no coincidence we've been so successful running the ball with them on the field. I'd like this trend to continue against FSU.

- Trevor Darling is going to be a good one. He got beat a couple times for playing too high, but for the most part he was excellent. He is blessed with long arms and a powerful lower body, and with another year in the weight room he will become a road grader.

- Phillip Dorsett had a great game without catching a ball. Not only did he have a key block on the safety on Duke's 90 yard TD, but he had several other great blocks that sprung the ballcarrier (including on Walford's catch and run). He has worked himself into a complete player who will be a hot commodity in May.

- Kaaya is deadly accurate. His throws to Walford were put in a place where only he could get the football. That's an encouraging sign with the way we've been recruiting big receivers.

It's one of the things that was most glaring to me about the FSU game last year. Our TE's were pitiful on the collective. Cleveland didn't even want contact and Walford definitely played his worst game of the year.

Standish has been a man in run blocking this year and as you said, is a threat as a receiver.

 

[bobbydigius]

Regarding Warlord and Dobard, like you said keep doing this against FSU. FSU is now crazy thin at LB, crazy thin. We are talking about a defense ridden with studs, but that LB corp resembles more of a UNC team right now. Plus that secondary can be beat…..

 

[k9cane]

Gotta give Arthur Francis Kehoe credit, despite significant injuries, his unit has really come on

I thought at the beginning of the season UM's best bet offensively was to play more spread and go shotgun to mitigate the Oline, and now, the Miami's strength is mashing upfront and relying on the running game

I think Kehoe has really earned his salary this season...

 

[SpikeUM]

Gotta give Arthur Francis Kehoe credit, despite significant injuries, his unit has really come on

I thought at the beginning of the season UM's best bet offensively was to play more spread and go shotgun to mitigate the Oline, and now, the Miami's strength is mashing upfront and relying on the running game

I think Kehoe has really earned his salary this season...

Best coaching job on the team this year?

 

[SpikeUM]

ok, I have no shame. What is 12 and 22 personnel?

 

[DMoney]

ok, I have no shame. What is 12 and 22 personnel?

12= One back, two tight ends
22= Two backs, two tight ends

 

[The Dude]

ok, I have no shame. What is 12 and 22 personnel?

Lol. You, me, and 99.9% of this board doesn't know what 12 and 22 personal are. I'm glad you manned up and asked.

 

[k9cane]

Gotta give Arthur Francis Kehoe credit, despite significant injuries, his unit has really come on

I thought at the beginning of the season UM's best bet offensively was to play more spread and go shotgun to mitigate the Oline, and now, the Miami's strength is mashing upfront and relying on the running game

I think Kehoe has really earned his salary this season...

Best coaching job on the team this year?

You can certainly make an argument for it, I mean, go back to opening night in Louisville to where they are now( and put this into perspective: the injuries to key upperclassmen and throwing in young guys like Nick Linder and now Trevor Darling)....

There's an old football saying: if you have a tough/good Oline, you'll have a tough/good football team. This unit has been really good the past month or so...

 

[Carolinacane83]

ok, I have no shame. What is 12 and 22 personnel?

Lol. You, me, and 99.9% of this board doesn't know what 12 and 22 personal are. I'm glad you manned up and asked.

Full disclosure: I am one of the 99.9%

 

[WestEndZone]

ok, I have no shame. What is 12 and 22 personnel?

Lol. You, me, and 99.9% of this board doesn't know what 12 and 22 personal are. I'm glad you manned up and asked.

To add to what D$ mentioned:

Personnel numbering is a two digit system. The first digit counts the number of backs in the game, while the second digit counts the number of tight ends in the game. By process of elimination you know how many WR's are in the game. You often see the defensive sideline holding up personnel cards before the snap. Offensive play calling is limited to personnel groupings (for the most part). Generally, a team in 10 personnel can't run any power/counter blocking schemes, unless it's run with the quarterback, for example.

A few more examples with a corresponding offensive formation series:
00 = 0 (no backs) 0 (no tight ends) [5 wide receivers] **Empty**
10 = 1 (one back) 0 (no tight ends) [4 wide receivers] **One Back**
23 = 2 (two backs) 3 (three tight ends) [0 wide receivers] **Goaline**
30 = 3 (three backs) 0 (no tight ends) [2 wide receivers] **Flexbone**
31 = 3 (three backs) 1 (one tight end) [1 wide receiver] **WingT**

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

Gotta give Arthur Francis Kehoe credit, despite significant injuries, his unit has really come on

I thought at the beginning of the season UM's best bet offensively was to play more spread and go shotgun to mitigate the Oline, and now, the Miami's strength is mashing upfront and relying on the running game

I think Kehoe has really earned his salary this season...

Best coaching job on the team this year?

Larry Scott would like a word with you.

 

[bAMACANE]

Anybody know where I can go back and rewatch the game? Any links?

 

[Canes21]

If you can, use ESPN3. It is what I have used to watch all of the games multiple times over. I'd like to point out that when watching it over and over you can see that the defense is just quicker in their decision making now and seems like they are trusting the system to work the way it is intended to. Nobody is freelancing around and it is making the unit click.

 

[LuCane]

A few thoughts:

- We ran a ton of 12 and 22 personnel. About a month ago, WestEndZone told me that he felt we played best with two tight ends on the field. Coley must've seen the same thing, because we've been heavy with Dobard and Walford lately. Both guys are big and powerful at the point of attack while still being receiving threats, and it's no coincidence we've been so successful running the ball with them on the field. I'd like this trend to continue against FSU.

I'm curious if this is the case because that's when we're actually focused and patient with there run, or if it's a matter of execution. Because we run great stuff out of 3WR sets, too. But, we happen to have a tendency to lose focus, attempt to be clever, and end up disjointed. As another offering of support to my curiosity, we also look great when we play with a FB and TE - even out of the Gun. The common denominator in those scenarios is that we tend to go to those sets when Coley is on "we're going to run the ******* ball" mode. It happened a number of times last year - GTech and NC being two prominent examples.

To be clear, I'm not denying we're great in those sets, but rather that it *may* be a result of a clear identity with an emphasis on patience, as opposed to a schematic advantage.

 

[LuCane]

ok, I have no shame. What is 12 and 22 personnel?

First number accounts for running backs; second number for TEs.

*Nm: WestEndZone elaborated above.

 

[gacericardo]

ok, I have no shame. What is 12 and 22 personnel?

Lol. You, me, and 99.9% of this board doesn't know what 12 and 22 personal are. I'm glad you manned up and asked.

To add to what D$ mentioned:

Personnel numbering is a two digit system. The first digit counts the number of backs in the game, while the second digit counts the number of tight ends in the game. By process of elimination you know how many WR's are in the game. You often see the defensive sideline holding up personnel cards before the snap. Offensive play calling is limited to personnel groupings (for the most part). Generally, a team in 10 personnel can't run any power/counter blocking schemes, unless it's run with the quarterback, for example.

A few more examples with a corresponding offensive formation series:
00 = 0 (no backs) 0 (no tight ends) [5 wide receivers] **Empty**
10 = 1 (one back) 0 (no tight ends) [4 wide receivers] **One Back**
23 = 2 (two backs) 3 (three tight ends) [0 wide receivers] **Goaline**
30 = 3 (three backs) 0 (no tight ends) [2 wide receivers] **Flexbone**
31 = 3 (three backs) 1 (one tight end) [1 wide receiver] **WingT**

I am more football smart than I was 30 seconds ago. Thanks

 

[Dingaan1828]

I watched the UNC game 4 times, and we won every time. That, my friend, is consistency.



^^ I was kidding, for those who will never get it.

 

[WestEndZone]

A few thoughts:

- We ran a ton of 12 and 22 personnel. About a month ago, WestEndZone told me that he felt we played best with two tight ends on the field. Coley must've seen the same thing, because we've been heavy with Dobard and Walford lately. Both guys are big and powerful at the point of attack while still being receiving threats, and it's no coincidence we've been so successful running the ball with them on the field. I'd like this trend to continue against FSU.

I'm curious if this is the case because that's when we're actually focused and patient with there run, or if it's a matter of execution. Because we run great stuff out of 3WR sets, too. But, we happen to have a tendency to lose focus, attempt to be clever, and end up disjointed. As another offering of support to my curiosity, we also look great when we play with a FB and TE - even out of the Gun. The common denominator in those scenarios is that we tend to go to those sets when Coley is on "we're going to run the ******* ball" mode. It happened a number of times last year - GTech and NC being two prominent examples.

To be clear, I'm not denying we're great in those sets, but rather that it *may* be a result of a clear identity with an emphasis on patience, as opposed to a schematic advantage.

Interesting you mention identity. Something else I mentioned in said conversation between D$ and me was that we didn't quite have an identity yet. I think we figured out that we needed to have a diverse running game with #8 and that we needed to protect Kaaya. The two TE sets (and the 21 personnel sets like you mentioned) allow us to do have the flexibility to run both man and zone blocking schemes in the run game, and it allows us to max protect the quarterback.

The diversity in running scheme allows us to have diversity in our boot game as well. We're able to have a healthy side to side boot game with our outside and inside zone run game. With our power and isolation man blocking schemes we're able to mix in vertical play action while max protecting. Right now this is serving us very well. It allows us to ride our All-American RB. It allows us to protect our true freshman QB. It allows us to have a terrifying home run threat with #4 running vertically off play action.

We use a pro system. Pro and multiple are almost synonymous. We need our 11 and 10 personnel groupings to serve as change ups or answers to what we identify as. I think for a few games we tried to do too much in those groupings. We got too cute.

 

[WestEndZone]

I am more football smart than I was 30 seconds ago. Thanks

You're welcome!