Renovation of locker room?

[brock]

Broke, man.

Read your own fracking post which started this thread.

They are redoing the lockerroom. End of story.

Or is it because they’re not going to have gloryholes in the wall with tired old hag boosters on the other end, like at Clemson?

Man what are you talking about? I’m just posting the article I read today from the sun sentinel. Up until today I had no idea that they were redoing the lockerroom because up until this point in all of the updates they hadn’t mentioned it....

 

[brock]

Yes, there is a financial advantage on the locker rooms, but you also lose the benefit of customization (i.e., some kid doesn't have "his own" locker at Hard Rock). As for the rest of the stadium, I agree. Now, if we were capable of selling 100K tickets, but our stadium only held 65K, there might be a bigger issue.

The players will be at Hard Rock for 7 half-days. They will spend the rest of their time on campus. Spend the money on campus facilities that make them bigger, faster, smarter, and stronger.

I'm not mad at Brock, I just refuse to be pulled into the "did you see what Texas just built" nonsense.


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I posted Texas upgrade to maybe give a glimpse of what our lockerrom possibly could be, there definitely wasn’t anything wrong with that. Like another poster said they spend alot of time in the lockerroom . When these recruits go to bama they see the top of the line facilties, renovating our lockerroom goes along way in keeping up with everyone else especially with both FSU and uf about to get new facilities as well soon which include lockerroom upgrades. These are schools you are directly competing with and it’s not the 80s and 90s ,facilties are a must for any elite program and Mark Richt knows that and Blake James does too who has done a great job since Donna Shalala left Miami. This will only help Miami and is not a negative in any way

 

[423Hurricane]

Yes, there is a financial advantage on the locker rooms, but you also lose the benefit of customization (i.e., some kid doesn't have "his own" locker at Hard Rock). As for the rest of the stadium, I agree. Now, if we were capable of selling 100K tickets, but our stadium only held 65K, there might be a bigger issue.

The players will be at Hard Rock for 7 half-days. They will spend the rest of their time on campus. Spend the money on campus facilities that make them bigger, faster, smarter, and stronger.

I'm not mad at Brock, I just refuse to be pulled into the "did you see what Texas just built" nonsense.


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Excellent point about the guys having their own locker at HRS. It may seem like a minor issue to some, but could be a positive to the players.

One-upmanship can get very costly.

I'm not sure what the financial arrangement is between the U and HRS - especially since it's privately owned. I do know that in the OB, being owned by the city, both the Phins and the U received a portion of the gate and concessions while the city was responsible for upkeep and stadium staffing. My father was the OB Stadium Manager from 1960 to 1979. The city and Joe Robbie were in a constant ****ing contest as to who was responsible for this or for that. Robbie would constantly try to get my father in the middle of the contest but he was an employee of the city and refused to go there. ****ed Robbie off royally! My father mentioned on several occasions he had a great relationship with the powers that be at the U and they were much easier to deal with.

All of the above to emphasize your point about locker room customization. Having been in the OB locker rooms, I can attest to the fact that they were all Phins. However, the U players did seem to get a kick out of sitting in the lockers of Czonk, Griese, Morris, etc.

 

[Twhizman]

Name of the game has changed since social media has become more popular.kids are mesmerized by the glitter and the attention it brings.hard rock ,the beachs,pretty women and campus area are great selling points but we still need o upgrade the areas where the players will spend moat of their time.it's like part of the recruiting game nowadays it's about the limelight and the shiny new stuff not the old h!and me down.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Excellent point about the guys having their own locker at HRS. It may seem like a minor issue to some, but could be a positive to the players.

One-upmanship can get very costly.

I'm not sure what the financial arrangement is between the U and HRS - especially since it's privately owned. I do know that in the OB, being owned by the city, both the Phins and the U received a portion of the gate and concessions while the city was responsible for upkeep and stadium staffing. My father was the OB Stadium Manager from 1960 to 1979. The city and Joe Robbie were in a constant ****ing contest as to who was responsible for this or for that. Robbie would constantly try to get my father in the middle of the contest but he was an employee of the city and refused to go there. ****ed Robbie off royally! My father mentioned on several occasions he had a great relationship with the powers that be at the U and they were much easier to deal with.

All of the above to emphasize your point about locker room customization. Having been in the OB locker rooms, I can attest to the fact that they were all Phins. However, the U players did seem to get a kick out of sitting in the lockers of Czonk, Griese, Morris, etc.

I can't believe I'm going to (somewhat) defend the City of Miami for something, but Joe Robbie was a NOTORIOUS con artist and tightwad. Go back and find the Sports Illustrated article on him from 1971 or something, he somehow flim-flammed all of the original minority owners of the Dolphins out of their shares, and he was well-known for his penny-pinching ways. Anyone could have predicted that all the Dolphin greats were going to take the WFL money after living with Robbie for a few years.

In the glory years, Joe Robbie was one of the most cash-poor owners in the league, he was basically a poor-man's Donald Trump, stiffing every invoice that ever crossed his desk and threatening to sue everyone in sight.


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[GOCANES05]

I can't believe I'm going to (somewhat) defend the City of Miami for something, but Joe Robbie was a NOTORIOUS con artist and tightwad. Go back and find the Sports Illustrated article on him from 1971 or something, he somehow flim-flammed all of the original minority owners of the Dolphins out of their shares, and he was well-known for his penny-pinching ways. Anyone could have predicted that all the Dolphin greats were going to take the WFL money after living with Robbie for a few years.

In the glory years, Joe Robbie was one of the most cash-poor owners in the league, he was basically a poor-man's Donald Trump, stiffing every invoice that ever crossed his desk and threatening to sue everyone in sight.


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But he built the stadium where it sits today, with his own money no city taxes Idon't get your narrative here, why would you believe SI especially with there hatred the the U , SI hates Miami sports the only thing they like is poon on south beach.

GOCANES

 

[423Hurricane]

I can't believe I'm going to (somewhat) defend the City of Miami for something, but Joe Robbie was a NOTORIOUS con artist and tightwad. Go back and find the Sports Illustrated article on him from 1971 or something, he somehow flim-flammed all of the original minority owners of the Dolphins out of their shares, and he was well-known for his penny-pinching ways. Anyone could have predicted that all the Dolphin greats were going to take the WFL money after living with Robbie for a few years.

In the glory years, Joe Robbie was one of the most cash-poor owners in the league, he was basically a poor-man's Donald Trump, stiffing every invoice that ever crossed his desk and threatening to sue everyone in sight.


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I recall that article in SI. My father despised him. It got to the point where on the rare occasion my father was in his office and Robbie showed up, he gave his secretary advanced instructions to tell him he wasn't in - which he wasn't most of the time. I witnessed it on one occasion and he was not a happy camper and berated the secretary. She was pretty feisty and just asked him to leave.

From what I heard, the City constantly had to call his office about payments because he was always in arrears.

Shula stayed on mainly because he had almost complete autonomy with football operations - except where contract money was concerned. That's the main reason his teams had a bunch of "no-names" is because tight-assed Robbie wouldn't pay large, extended contracts. My father had the utmost respect for Shula. He had explicit wants as far as the field and locker rooms were concerned and always thanked my father and his team for their hard work and attention to detail.

 

[CaneFan79]

Brock, as a tax attorney, allow me to point out something very important to you.

The disastrous Republican tax reform..

Yeah, that 4.1 percent quarterly GDP just reported is a total disaster...More money in your pocket, less money spent hiring tax attorney's trying to find loopholes in confiscatory tax laws.

 

[M3N]

Broke is insufferable. Dude posts way too much and doesn’t know his *** from his elbow

 

[Earnest T. Bass]

It is bordering on insignificant what the fans think about the facilities. What matters are the expectations of recruits. And being honest as to what we are competing against and what will be required to regularly sign 4 and 5-star recruits.

As for the boosters who dot the college landscape, typically they are savvy business people who have an eagle eye on ROI. You are not going to throw one by them with shiny objects and a song and dance. They will demand facts that validate their investments/donations. You are not witnessing ultra-luxury, mega athletic compounds being constructed on almost every major college football campus simply due to boosters having some spare cash laying around. The boosters are being presented facts that have convinced them that to gain an advantage over their competitors, or at the very least keep up with the competition, requires their campuses to have Disneyland football facilities.

Facilities have become a significant recruiting tool for college football coaches. Certainly, the Canes can point to weather, beaches, etc., but players who are led into an atmosphere that offers a lifestyle that exceeds their wildest dreams in which they will be spending most of their time is a razor-sharp hook.

“Build the Field and They Will Come!”

 

[brock]

Broke is insufferable. Dude posts way too much and doesn’t know his *** from his elbow

You are mad because I posted that lockerroom is being redone? Who gets mad over something good coming to the program? Get over yourself you d*ckhead

 

[Calinative]

Bruh I doubt we're completely upgrading the wieght room and the locker room. Sure they might get some additions or cosmetic changes, but we just ******* rebuilt the locker room. That would be a waste of money. We don't need no bull**** 32" tvs on our lockers. Thats just retarded. All the players get personalized Ipads anyways, if theres something the coaches need for them to see it can be sent there not some *** as tv on top of each locker.

You think they're about to buy all new free weights for the weight room? doubtful. New room maybe, same equipment or something, maybe a few new **** included. Lets not be wasteful with the money.

 

[Redstate12]

Brock, you know I bust your balls, but I have been a student and alum of UM since 1986. My perspective on our history is quite different from yours.

While I can joke with you, I am still very insistent that we need to build our own culture and standards, and not let our eyeballs bug out every time some other team like Clemson builds a playground or waterslides or whatever.

I had to work in Greenville, SC for 9 months last year. That is a very different world from Miami. I understand Clemson building a lot of silly stuff to catch the attention of recruits, you do need a lot of distractions living in that part of SC. I simply believe we can create a substantial distinction in how we go about things. If we devote most of our money to showing these recruits how we are going to spend 3-5 years preparing them for the NFL, with recovery support and nutrition support, etc., I do believe that will trump waterslides.

As Mark Richt has pointed out on numerous occasions (and now we need to see it live), he observed many other IPF facilities and tried to create some interesting distinctions in ours, such as the area where coaches can observe practice.

That's all I'm saying. Observe what others are doing. Adapt it and improve upon it, but don't act like everything is a fancy "arms race". We don't have to match every other competitor's locker room. We don't need as many uniform combos as Oregon. We just need to do Miami the way that we should. Pride. Family. Toughness. Support. Alums. NFL standards.

F those Texas locker rooms. Let the Longhorns be like Al Bundy, always dreaming of their school football glory days.

F them.


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Best post all year by a mile!

 

[kryptonite]

They could, the new custom Texas custom locker only cost 8700 each. There are what 125 lockers in each lockerroom? For that to be done that would cost just under 1,100,000. Don’t have to be the best but they need to be modernized. One could say that Georgia tech and Georgia state has a better locker room than what Miami has right now. I’m also excited about the new weight room Miami is getting too

Modernized? Wasn't the locker room done just a few years ago? I'm fine with keeping things fresh, but trying to spend with those schools is undoable. It's the cold war and we're the USSR.

 

[kryptonite]

Broke, man.

Read your own fracking post which started this thread.

They are redoing the lockerroom. End of story.

Or is it because they’re not going to have gloryholes in the wall with tired old hag boosters on the other end, like at Clemson?

That's really unfair man. With all that money, the boosters have some pretty hot wives.

 

[GOCANES05]

You are mad because I posted that lockerroom is being redone? Who gets mad over something good coming to the program? Get over yourself you d*ckhead

Attention attention will Brock and Krytonite please report to GOCANES05 “ BIG DESK “ ASAP , Thank you.

Mrs. Wiggins , please send those two immediately to the BIG DESK as they arrive, they need a good talking to

GOCANES

 

[Earnest T. Bass]

Ranking the Top 25 facilities in college football for 2018

The accompanying comments tell the story.

 

[Rellyrell]

No lie, I was just thinking about our locker room not too long ago. I don't think it needs to be a "TX" type of upgrade, but it is low key bland. It could use a nice face lift. The weight room needs a major upgrade for sure. If we can do it, then why not? This is an arms race. Obviously Richt is in on this and Blake is giving him what he wants. Richt is trying to ensure all the negative recruiting made against us is going to be no more. I'm rolling with this idea...but I also think a recovery area w/ a true cold bath area and hot tub should be priority.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

But he built the stadium where it sits today, with his own money no city taxes Idon't get your narrative here, why would you believe SI especially with there hatred the the U , SI hates Miami sports the only thing they like is poon on south beach.

GOCANES

Look, I completely stand behind you on the IPF, but you are missing the point here.

First, "Sports Illustrated" didn't hate UM in 1971 when the article I cited was written.

Second, Joe Robbie ripped off everyone he dealt with from the 1960s up through the 1980s when he built JRS, but I'm supposed to lionize him because he didn't use "city taxes"?

Give me a break. I actually have knowledge on Joe Robbie's finances and estate structure, and I can assure you, he put all of his own money into it because he couldn't get substantial bank financing.

What, he didn't get tax money? Sure, but he also stuck the City of Miami with the OB for another 2 decades, not to mention the fact that he compromised the overall quality of the new stadium in a desire to corner the market on baseball and soccer facilities as well.

It has taken 30 years to squeeze a decent football stadium out of JRS.

In the meantime, Atlanta has built BOTH the Georgia Dome and Mercedes Benz Stadium.


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[Gatorhater]

Brock, you know I bust your balls, but I have been a student and alum of UM since 1986. My perspective on our history is quite different from yours.

While I can joke with you, I am still very insistent that we need to build our own culture and standards, and not let our eyeballs bug out every time some other team like Clemson builds a playground or waterslides or whatever.

I had to work in Greenville, SC for 9 months last year. That is a very different world from Miami. I understand Clemson building a lot of silly stuff to catch the attention of recruits, you do need a lot of distractions living in that part of SC. I simply believe we can create a substantial distinction in how we go about things. If we devote most of our money to showing these recruits how we are going to spend 3-5 years preparing them for the NFL, with recovery support and nutrition support, etc., I do believe that will trump waterslides.

As Mark Richt has pointed out on numerous occasions (and now we need to see it live), he observed many other IPF facilities and tried to create some interesting distinctions in ours, such as the area where coaches can observe practice.

That's all I'm saying. Observe what others are doing. Adapt it and improve upon it, but don't act like everything is a fancy "arms race". We don't have to match every other competitor's locker room. We don't need as many uniform combos as Oregon. We just need to do Miami the way that we should. Pride. Family. Toughness. Support. Alums. NFL standards.

F those Texas locker rooms. Let the Longhorns be like Al Bundy, always dreaming of their school football glory days.

F them.


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The funny thing is that last year 10 wins and the TOC, rocked college football and took the news cycle from ever President Trump. THAT cannot be bought by a billion dollar looker room. Only The U can light that sort of fire. If we beat LSU all eyes will be on us again. Despite all its titles and near term dominance, BAma needs to spend that money and pay players. We win one and every kid in country will want in.