Remind me again how Mario is not good enough for us?

[NicKane]

Ahh you're hitting' me up at Christmas and I have a lot of kids to buy for! I'll try!

I know bro, I’m in that same boat. Give what you can brother even if it’s only 5$. @305_separatist , myself and everyone else who donated is grateful.

 

[ucaned]

LOL so I guess Nick Saban with the #1 class like 10 years straight must be a real underachiever! If anyone should be playing for a title it's him. You're right though, we'll just stick with 6-6.

Oh good, an historian. Let's also go back and see what Mario has achieved in his career vs. Saban since you brought him up. Now convince me that Mario is a pimple on Sabans ***. Now Saban is an ******* and most likely killed Tua's career, but if heathy they are most likely in the playoffs. Mario on the other hand lost to a 5-5 team, a PAC12 5-5 team, thus his chance at the playoffs. Also, since you mention just pure talent, if hurts was still there I think they beat AU. Look what he did for OU this season. Oh, and again, Saban $EC, Mario PAC12, there is a difference.

Where you fail is that Saban is proven at multiple schools in the best conference. Mario has a conference championship in the PAC12 (think of Iverson and his practice rant when saying the PAC12). Not sure that this really dignified a response but you Mario fanboys have a blind crush that is beyond reasoning.

And it will be far more than we've had since Butch

So you respond with this to a post noting that Mario may not be elite but would be good in the ACC Coastal and in recruiting. Lulz. So Mario is the cream of the crap and has your support being such, nice! But hey, he would br great in the Coastal Division because that is our new goal here at Miami. GTFO! I prefer a coach that wants to win MNC's, but that is just me.

 

[duke4heisman]

Oh good, an historian. Let's also go back and see what Mario has achieved in his career vs. Saban since you brought him up. Now convince me that Mario is a pimple on Sabans ***. Now Saban is an ******* and most likely killed Tua's career, but if heathy they are most likely in the playoffs. Mario on the other hand lost to a 5-5 team, a PAC12 5-5 team, thus his chance at the playoffs. Also, since you mention just pure talent, if hurts was still there I think they beat AU. Look what he did for OU this season. Oh, and again, Saban $EC, Mario PAC12, there is a difference.

Where you fail is that Saban is proven at multiple schools in the best conference. Mario has a conference championship in the PAC12 (think of Iverson and his practice rant when saying the PAC12). Not sure that this really dignified a response but you Mario fanboys have a blind crush that is beyond reasoning.




So you respond with this to a post noting that Mario may not be elite but would be good in the ACC Coastal and in recruiting. Lulz. So Mario is the cream of the crap and has your support being such, nice! But hey, he would br great in the Coastal Division because that is our new goal here at Miami. GTFO! I prefer a coach that wants to win MNC's, but that is just me.

I have never been a big Mario guy, everyone knows I'm a Butch guy but this liberal sjw school won't hire him. So, I do believe Mario is the closest thing we can get to him and while you're talking about national championship, we've been absolute dog ***** for almost 2 decades!

 

[ucaned]

I have never been a big Mario guy, everyone knows I'm a Butch guy but this liberal sjw school won't hire him. So, I do believe Mario is the closest thing we can get to him and while you're talking about national championship, we've been absolute dog ***** for almost 2 decades!

Sure, I love Butch as well, however, five years ago, yes, now no, we need to move in a different direction, and it is not Mario, and no, he is not Butch. Mario recruits stars, Butch recruited talent, and built a roster. How many times do I need to distinguish the two? We will not recruit stars here consistently until 1. we drop very big bags or 2. we start dominating college football. If you are banking on Mario to do that get ready for disappointment.

Mario is in the perfect spot as many have pointed out. The PAC is weak and he can dominate for years to come. He will not do that here or in a conference like the SEC. Again, look at Chip and Willie at Oregon and look at them now.

Yes I am talking MNC's at Miami, if you suggest we play for the Coastal, I suggest we shut down the program as all is lost. Yes we have been dog **** for almost 20 years. Of the five coaches in that time, four have been connected to Miami. Perhaps we should learn from our mistakes. I find it interesting though that you cannot seem to think that there is another option out there other than Mario. Mario is just another lazy, uninspired hire by our BOT/AD.

 

[duke4heisman]

Sure, I love Butch as well, however, five years ago, yes, now no, we need to move in a different direction, and it is not Mario, and no, he is not Butch. Mario recruits stars, Butch recruited talent, and built a roster. How many times do I need to distinguish the two? We will not recruit stars here consistently until 1. we drop very big bags or 2. we start dominating college football. If you are banking on Mario to do that get ready for disappointment.

Mario is in the perfect spot as many have pointed out. The PAC is weak and he can dominate for years to come. He will not do that here or in a conference like the SEC. Again, look at Chip and Willie at Oregon and look at them now.

Yes I am talking MNC's at Miami, if you suggest we play for the Coastal, I suggest we shut down the program as all is lost. Yes we have been dog **** for almost 20 years. Of the five coaches in that time, four have been connected to Miami. Perhaps we should learn from our mistakes. I find it interesting though that you cannot seem to think that there is another option out there other than Mario. Mario is just another lazy, uninspired hire by our BOT/AD.

The problem is Miami will not pay for a better coach. The only other option is taking another chance at a low level up and comer and we all know that hasn't worked. You mock wanting to win the Coastal but we only won it ONCE. Not the conference, the division, ONCE. Wake up man! LOL

 

[TheEye]

He wanted to come back this time last year and the buy out was all set to be paid by the soffers. That is until Blake hired his fishing buddy less then an hour later. Hopefully Blake James gets Lou Gehrig’s disease!

That makes 0 sense. Marcus Lemonis publicly endorsed Cristobol prior to the Richt hire. So the Soffers AND Lemonis wanted a coach and Blake flips them off? No way. He would be gone by now.

 

[NicKane]

That makes 0 sense. Marcus Lemonis publicly endorsed Cristobol prior to the Richt hire. So the Soffers AND Lemonis wanted a coach and Blake flips them off? No way. He would be gone by now.

Half the BOT wanted Mario and the other half who are in bed with Manure Senior wanted Mandy. That half won out but boy are they sure regretting it now, and you better believe the half that wanted Mario will be making the decision on the next coaching hire.

 

[Go Canes!!]

It's amazing how some people pass off sourceless nonsense dropped on this site by random posters and turn it into a factual account of what transpires.

 

[ucaned]

The problem is Miami will not pay for a better coach. The only other option is taking another chance at a low level up and comer and we all know that hasn't worked. You mock wanting to win the Coastal but we only won it ONCE. Not the conference, the division, ONCE. Wake up man! LOL

Yet Richt was making $4M and was slated to be around $5M now. We paid $4M to buy out Manny. There is plenty of talent out there that would come here for $4M - $5M, but you want to cry poor mouth, and say we have to accept some low level coach, so instead you'll accept Mario and play for the Coastal. Afterall, we have accepted mediocrity for 20 years, why not step up as Coastal champs with a UM guys as our next level of mediocrity since apparently we cannot reach higher according to you. Just don't forget, 3 out of 5 of the coaches that failed to win the Coastal were connected to UM.

Also, you apparently think that just because a coach is not at a top 10 program making $5M plus he cannot turn this program around. The last all around great coach we had was a guy from Okie St. that was routinely getting his *** kicked by OU. It took as great AD to recognize the talent within the coach and bring him into Miami. Sure, Jankovich could have hired Tom Olivadotti, but that most likely would have been a Coker, Shannon, Golden, Richt, Manny or Mario type hire. Yeah, it would have been popular at the moment, but Sam wanted MNC's at UM and didn't take the easy path. Look at the way we have hired recently and you will see why we have only won the Coastal ONCE.

 

[Go Canes!!]

Mario is coming off a 10 win, Rose Bowl, Top 10 ranked season and still finished second in the PAC 12 in recruiting. He picked up two 5 star LBs but the rest of his class is pretty pedestrian, with six 4 stars and fourteen 3 stars.

Meh.

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[ssvir]

The only time that Oregon is ever relevant is when USC is down.

Mario did well this year (not elite ... not even top 10) but at a time when USC is 78th in the recruiting rankings.

Whenever USC hires a legit coach its over for Oregon .... they won't be getting any more elite California kids.

 

[Go Canes!!]

 

[duke4heisman]

Yet Richt was making $4M and was slated to be around $5M now. We paid $4M to buy out Manny. There is plenty of talent out there that would come here for $4M - $5M, but you want to cry poor mouth, and say we have to accept some low level coach, so instead you'll accept Mario and play for the Coastal. Afterall, we have accepted mediocrity for 20 years, why not step up as Coastal champs with a UM guys as our next level of mediocrity since apparently we cannot reach higher according to you. Just don't forget, 3 out of 5 of the coaches that failed to win the Coastal were connected to UM.

Also, you apparently think that just because a coach is not at a top 10 program making $5M plus he cannot turn this program around. The last all around great coach we had was a guy from Okie St. that was routinely getting his *** kicked by OU. It took as great AD to recognize the talent within the coach and bring him into Miami. Sure, Jankovich could have hired Tom Olivadotti, but that most likely would have been a Coker, Shannon, Golden, Richt, Manny or Mario type hire. Yeah, it would have been popular at the moment, but Sam wanted MNC's at UM and didn't take the easy path. Look at the way we have hired recently and you will see why we have only won the Coastal ONCE.

4 million doesn't cut it, the top coaches are getting double that. You are living in a fantasy land

 

[TheEye]

Half the BOT wanted Mario and the other half who are in bed with Manure Senior wanted Mandy. That half won out but boy are they sure regretting it now, and you better believe the half that wanted Mario will be making the decision on the next coaching hire.

There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that Cristobol would be an upgrade to Diaz. Of course, the glass half empty crowd will still pile on and say he is a bad hire. Personally, I would say Cristobol is the best we can get if what you say is accurate.

 

[ucaned]

4 million doesn't cut it, the top coaches are getting double that. You are living in a fantasy land

No, I am just not suffering battered wife syndrome. Yes, we will not get Saban, Dabo or Meyer for that money but don't forget they did not start at the top of the salary ranks either. Guess to you JJ started at UM winning MNC's then off to Dallas.

Demand an AD that does a national search for the best candidate. Look for someone that can bring in innovation and energy to the program. We have a lot to offer a coach, yet some fans have become so beaten down they want to settle for the next UM guy because they have become as lazy as the school in their expectations. I show you Chip and Willie as having success just like Mario at Oregon, but again, where are they now? Just because Mario coached under Saban does not make him Saban. Just ask the gator and what they think of the Chump and McShark

 

[duke4heisman]

No, I am just not suffering battered wife syndrome. Yes, we will not get Saban, Dabo or Meyer for that money but don't forget they did not start at the top of the salary ranks either. Guess to you JJ started at UM winning MNC's then off to Dallas.

Demand an AD that does a national search for the best candidate. Look for someone that can bring in innovation and energy to the program. We have a lot to offer a coach, yet some fans have become so beaten down they want to settle for the next UM guy because they have become as lazy as the school in their expectations. I show you Chip and Willie as having success just like Mario at Oregon, but again, where are they now? Just because Mario coached under Saban does not make him Saban. Just ask the gator and what they think of the Chump and McShark

So you are proving my point, we either gamble again with a low level up and comer or hire someone with a resume like Mario. That's it.
Personally, I'm sick of striking out on the low level guys. The only success we've seen came with someone with a decent resume

 

[ucaned]

There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that Cristobol would be an upgrade to Diaz. Of course, the glass half empty crowd will still pile on and say he is a bad hire. Personally, I would say Cristobol is the best we can get if what you say is accurate.

How is wanting more and expecting more being a glass half empty? Thinking we can do no better to me is the half empty thinking. You as a fan should want the AD/BoT to conduct a search beyond Blakes limited rolodex. Don't they owe it to the players that commit to play for the best, and the fans that pay to see the best? Mario is a lazy hire like Manny and the merry band of idiots we have had for almost 20 years. I can see a bad hire here and there, it happens, but this is incompetence. Hiring a guy just because he played at the school and not conducting a national search is further incompetence.

 

[ucaned]

So you are proving my point, we either gamble again with a low level up and comer or hire someone with a resume like Mario. That's it.
Personally, I'm sick of striking out on the low level guys. The only success we've seen came with someone with a decent resume

I'm proving your point? Let's see. Mario had a bad team, much like Miami, in Miami, and was 27 - 47 overall. The great recruiter and coaching guru could not do it at FIU. Yes, it was lowly FIU, but we are talking Mario, the savior of Miami. Now what is most troubling is his last season. After limited success he goes 3-8. Hardly an impressive stat.

Next we look at Oregon. Wow, Mario is the man, we need him at Miami stat!! Fire Manny and back up the brinks truck in Eugene because Mario learned under Saban and can now magically coach. Well, if you look at the Mario went 0-1 Willie T made a remarkable improvement at Oregon. So, is it the Jimmys and Joes, or the X's and O's currently at Oregon? If it was the X's and O's then why did Willie fail at F$U? Why is Chip failing at UCLA? Oregon is filled with Jimmys and Joes but the X's and O's lost to a 5-5 team keeping them out of the playoffs. Now Mario will continue to stock the team much like Chip because there is no competition in the west. He will continue to look better than he truly is until he goes to a conference with better football and is exposed. I just hope we do not make the mistake and set ourselves back another few years for the next experiment.

If proving you point was showing you that Marios resume is a 47-54 W/L record, than you're welcome, I'm glad I could help. Just remember, JJ came from Okie State, Urban from Utah, Saban's first HC gig was Toledo. Coker was from Miami, Shannon was from Miami, Manny was from Miami. Richt was a former Miami guy, and so is Mario. Almost 20 years, and as you pointed out only 1 Coastal championship. Maybe it's time we spread our wings a little and look beyond our backyard.

Year	Team	Overall	Conference	Standing	Bowl/playoffs	Coaches#	AP°
FIU Golden Panthers / Panthers (Sun Belt Conference) (2007–2012)
2007	FIU	1–11	1–6	7th
2008	FIU	5–7	3–4	T–5th
2009	FIU	3–9	3–5	6th
2010	FIU	7–6	6–2	T–1st	W Little Caesars Pizza
2011	FIU	8–5	5–3	4th	L Beef 'O' Brady's
2012	FIU	3–9	2–6	T–8th
FIU:	27–47	20–26
Oregon Ducks (Pac-12 Conference) (2017–present)
2017	Oregon	0–1	0–0	4th (North)	L Las Vegas
2018	Oregon	9–4	5–4	4th (North)	W Redbox
2019	Oregon	11–2	8–1	1st (North)	Rose†
Oregon:	20–7	13–5
Total:	47–54

 

[TheEye]

How is wanting more and expecting more being a glass half empty? Thinking we can do no better to me is the half empty thinking. You as a fan should want the AD/BoT to conduct a search beyond Blakes limited rolodex. Don't they owe it to the players that commit to play for the best, and the fans that pay to see the best? Mario is a lazy hire like Manny and the merry band of idiots we have had for almost 20 years. I can see a bad hire here and there, it happens, but this is incompetence. Hiring a guy just because he played at the school and not conducting a national search is further incompetence.

I have not heard any better coaches praising this job. Paul Dee hired a search firm and the best they could land was...Randy Shannon? FSU went searching for months and with their budget they land a G5 coach? This isn’t as easy as the CIS crowd lets on.

 

[Texxcane]

I wish someone would tell ole Tex just why in the world Mario would want to come here, i mean other than the fact he played here. If i'm Mario i'm thinking why would i go to work for an admin that dont give a F about winning, wont get behind you to get the top players, wont pay to get top assistants. Its just hard to work for somebody like that, your handcuffed from the start, your company wont give you the tools to compete with other company's your up against. Why would any proven coach want to come here under those conditions, up and comer yea maybe so, makes me wonder if Mullen really wanted this job, as UF gives him 10 x the resources. This is why i have said the past 3 hires we shoulda got Butch, you can put all the really good coaches that actually WANT to come here in my vette, and the best one has always been Butch. Sure, give me Urb, give me Herman, give me Gruden, but they know whats up, they aint comin here no way, so i will settle for Butch over all the crap thats been through since he left, and coming in the future.