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Rellyrell’s 2023-4 Year End Season Review

M3N said:
Cristobal is on pace with Shannon, Golden, and Manny unfortunately.

Good news is if we are basing Mario’s tenure off history of prior failed coaches he’ll be out in 2-3 more years.
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I’m sure you mean well, but we should absolutely not be rooting and waiting for this happen. We should be absolutely hoping and praying Mario works out as if he doesn’t this school will likely never open up its pocketbook like it did and has this time around.
 
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All the hype about a recruiting class is all well and good but the reality is the vast majority of players from a particular class won’t make a significant impact until their 2nd or 3rd year - especially OL and DL.

We had 3 outliers this year in Bain, Cici, and Fletcher - Bain and Cici true freshman AA’s ( 3 when the punter is counted) but for the most part, the class of ‘23 had the impact one would expect in supplying depth and increasing the overall talent of the team.

The ‘23 class will hopefully have a more significant impact next year and the ‘24 class will hopefully continue to add depth and maybe even make significant contributions on game day.
 
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Great write up @Rellyrell . Mario is proving his skeptics right, even more than they prob expected
 
Does anyone have a breakdown of who committed what type of penalties? Maybe PFF? I have a theory.

The turnover problem can be corrected with a QB but discipline is a part of the culture.
 
I’m not celebrating off season crap anymore until Mario starts actually winning games on the field. I’m tired of winning th off season championship and going 7-6 during the season. You don’t get trophies for recruiting and recruiting top classes means nothing if you don’t actually win games.

For all the talk about building the trenches and being physical, this team is still 100% reliant on the QB to carry them to victory. Either they need to accept that and stop pretending they’re Wisconsin or Nebraska or they need HUGE improvements on the line.
 
Thanks @Rellyrell for putting the stats together. I knew we were bad in penalties and TO margin. Forgot how poor we were in RZ defense.

I expected vast improvements in all three areas this season and MC punched me in the gut with his poor leadership and gameday coaching. This team was a 9-10 win team all day long. Next season I'm afraid will be much of the same as counting on MC to make major adjustments to his weaknesses is Fools Gold.
 
Sad and eye opening.

12-13 is pathetic.

That's the WORST we've been here in 4 decades for a coach's first 2 years. Butch Davis was 14-9 in his worst 2 years here. And that was on sanctions.

Having Mario as head coach is literally worse than being on sanctions.

I can't believe how bad of a gameday coach he is because it seems like everything else he's doing is top level.

Unfortunately at the end of the day you are what your record says you are. And Mario is the worst head coach we've had in 40+ years.

No really good coach has ever overcome a first 2 years like this and gone on to win a national title in the modern era.
 
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Outside of recruiting, Mario’s tenure has been extremely disappointing to watch in his first two seasons

Not only are we bad but we’re super boring to watch most of the time

We need to land a real QB and Year 3 better be different

Otherwise we’ll be looking for a new coach yet again
 
561Cane said:
Thanks @Rellyrell for putting the stats together. I knew we were bad in penalties and TO margin. Forgot how poor we were in RZ defense.

I expected vast improvements in all three areas this season and MC punched me in the gut with his poor leadership and gameday coaching. This team was a 9-10 win team all day long. Next season I'm afraid will be much of the same as counting on MC to make major adjustments to his weaknesses is Fools Gold.
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I really don’t know why people are surprised especially about penalties and poor gameday coaching. Y’all were forewarned before he was hired. This is why some wanted other candidates. Nothing in the OPs post surprises me. I did think we would be much farther along, but I never thought Mario would be the guy to bring us #6.
 
You can see a good team in there but the scheme and the coaching is really holding back the wins. I'm ******* over the snails pace to everything. Mario is a prius driver sitting in a race car. Drive it or get the **** out of the way.
 
M3N said:
Usually when you are breaking records (not the good ones) your tenure here tends to be short

Cristobal is on pace with Shannon, Golden, and Manny unfortunately.

Good news is if we are basing Mario’s tenure off history of prior failed coaches he’ll be out in 2-3 more years.
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Miami won’t continue to invest in sports at this level if football fails.

If this dude fails, Miami will stay what it’s become, a G5 program with 5-7 and 7-5 seasons.
 
Rellyrell said:
Well my fellow Canes’ Brethren it was, yet again, another year full of hype, optimism, hope, and in the end, let down. I’ve said it before, but the off season, the Green Tree Practice Reports are so much better than September - December when things ACTUALLY matter.

Nevertheless, there were some positives this season, things that if (and that’s a humongous word around these parts) we build upon will result in much more favorable outcomes moving forward.

Let’s review the positives, first:

1. A better defensively sound team compared to the 2022 version: Huge shout out to both Coach Guidry and Coach Taylor. The defense was light years better this season vs. last season.

2022 & 2023 Defensive Stat Rankings per NCAA:
Total Def: 2022 (64th) v. 2023 (25th)
3rd Down Def: 2022 (96th) v. 2023 (37th)
4th Down Def: 2022 (104th) v. 2023 (27th)
Passing Def: 2022 (79th) v. 2023 (54th)
Passing Efficiency Def: 2022 (102nd) v. 2023 (34th)
Rush Def: 2022 (54th) v. 2023 (13th)
Scoring Def: 2022 (66th) v. 2023 (41st)
TFLs: 2022 (22nd) v. 2023 (20th)

Overall we saw a massive improvement across the defense, & at times it was more fun watching them play than the offense itself. With that said that brings us to point 2

2. A better offense: Despite some flaws, the offense was still leaps & bounds better this season than last season.

2022 & 2023 Offensive Stat Rankings per NCAA:
Total Off: 2022 (85th) v. 2023 (30th)
4th Down Off: 2022 (104th) v. 2023 (65th)
Passing Off: 2022 (59th) v. 2023 (43rd)
Passing Efficiency Off: 2022 (84th) v. 2023 (52nd)
Rush Off: 2022 (95th) v. 2023 (45th)
Red Zone Off: 2022 (86th) v. 2023 (65th)
Sacks Allowed: 2022 (108th) v. 2023 (20th)
Scoring Off: 2022 (96th) v. 2023 (39th)
TFL Allowed: 2022 (70th) v. 2023 (34th)

So statistically, again much better this year offensively vs. last year, overall.

3. Rueben Bain, and Francis Mauigoa: Two OUTSTANDING true freshmen! Yes, they had some rough moments at times, but both were grown *** men that held their own against a slew of 21+ year old players. Outstanding recruits, and look fwd to their maturation come next yr & beyond.

4. Kiko Mauigoa and the LB Crew: What was once a weak spot became a very bright spot. Kiko, Wes, & the much maligned Corey Flagg Jr played w/ their hearts on their sleeves, often covering over missed alignments along the DL to clean up plays. Flagg will forever be good w/ me, despite me being vocally critical of his offer, with the play of the season (imo) making the proper read, & having the fluidity in hips to change direction & chase Klubnik, refusing him entry into the end zone. Will be interesting to see how the LB room/play look next season.

5. Mark Fletcher: Again, another solid true freshman season for us. Showed so much fight and determination as a runner at such a young age. Imagine; we might not have featured either Fletcher or Bain this yr had not been the injuries sustained by Parrish, Messidor, and Chaney going down for a moment. Those untimely injuries gave us a glimpse into some solid foundational pieces.

6. Xavier Restrepo: Have a season young man! Proud of X, & I recall how hyped I was for this non-blue chip WR from Deerfield Beach choosing us over UK. He was a straight dog, & he finally got an opportunity to showcase that he can be WR 1.

7. Jacolby George: Yes, I know, he’s been a fake tough guy lately causing dumb penalties, but he was by far our most explosive playmaker on O this season, & had a helluva season for us. Led our team in TDs, longest play, & avg. this season.

8. Margin of Defeat: This cannot be stated how much of a difference this was from 2022 to 2023. In 2022, our avg. margin of defeat was 21, this season 8. That means we were in every single game this year vs. last season in defeat.

9. 2 game improvement: Regardless of how minuscule it may seem, the fact is we did go from 5 to 7 wins.

So with all those positives, how did a team that started the season 6-2 with so much momentum finish the season 1-4 culminating with an embarrassing loss for the first time in school’s history to a mediocre Rutgers team?

What’s the old saying; “A Tiger doesn’t change its stripes?” Well, we were that Tiger. The 2023 season was nothing more than lipstick on a pig, if I’m going to be frank. ‘But Relly Rell, come on brotha, u just highlighted all those positives to show how much more improved we were than last season!” U would be right, but this was also to highlight how stats can be empty numbers without context. So what’s the context?

This team was woefully undisciplined! The **** numbers improved, but the stats that show how good a team really is declined. (i.e turnover margin, penalties, RZ efficiency, poor utilization of situational football, etc.)

Let’s take a look at some glaring stats:

While our defense did improve, there were some things left to be desired.

Sacks:
2022 (10th) vs. 2023 (20th)
Passes Intercepted:
2022 (22nd) vs. 2023 (33rd)
Fumbles Recovered:
2022 (49th) vs. 2023 (74th)

While we became more disciplined on defense, we took a step back in being opportunistic in creating turnovers and causing backfield havoc meeting at the QB. This was important to note b/c of our offense, unfortunately. Here’s why:

Turnover Margin:
2022 (90th) vs. 2023 (94th)

We were a turnover machine as a team, constantly shooting ourselves in the foot. To further complicate matters:

Penalty Yards:
2022 (79th) v. 2023 (102nd)

Mixed that in w/ **** poor special teams:
Kickoff Defense: 2022 (39th) v. 2023 (92nd)
Blocked Punts Allowed: 2022 (T-1st) v. 2023 (T-120th)
Blocked Kicks Allowed: 2022 (T-32nd) v. 2023 (T-101st)

Along with an inability to stop offenses when they entered the RZ:
Def RZ Def: 2022 (61st) v. 2023 (T-101st)

With the cherry on top of a HC who refused to kneel on the ball when the game was over (GT), and several times down by more than one score having poor clock management:
Ex. See FSU down 14 in the 4th w/ 11 mins to play & the most recent example of the Pinstripe Bowl against Rutgers.

So what we had this year was some good, sure, and that good can give all the fans of fans the glimmer of hope that next season will be different; but, for all the good we saw, we still saw a team that couldn’t get out of its own way either by dumb penalties, an inability to make a timely stop after seizing momentum, or poor coaching acumen. 2 of the 3 is what has me most concerned, simply b/c 2 of those 3 happened at another school prior to.

This season we saw Jordan Travis become the first FSU QB to win 3 straight against Miami. This season we saw the first time in history a University of Miami Football team lose to a Rutgers University Football team. This season marked, for the past 15 seasons, our record plummeting to 1-11 in bowl games (maybe that’s why some say these bowl games are meaningless).

As I look at the coaching class of new hires of 2022, I can’t help but wonder how or why are we here.

DeBoer took over a 4-8 UW team, yet he’s 24-2 after 2 yrs
Kelly took over a 6-7 LSU team, yet he’s 19-7 after 2 yrs
Riley took over a 4-8 USC team, yet he’s 19-8 after 2 yrs
Elko took over a 3-9 Duke team, yet he’s 16-9 after 2 yrs
Dykes took over a 5-7 TCU team, yet he’s 18-9 after 2 yrs
Summerall took over a 5-7 Troy team, yet he’s 23-4 after 2 yrs
Kill took over a 2-10 NMST team, yet he’s 17-11 after 2 yrs
McGuire took over a 7-6 TT team, yet he’s 15-11 after 2 yrs
Cristobal took over a 7-5 UM team, yet he’s 12-13 after 2 yrs

See the entire picture, and u’ll see why we’re off pace. It’s not just the players, or refs, or the ACC, or any other excuse used, it’s the infrastructure, & by yr 3, the infrastructure (namely, Mario Cristobal) is going to need to make some needed changes in how he approaches the game of football. What we saw to begin the season gave us hope, but how we ended the season w/ the same bad habits from 2022 is why we should all be cautiously optimistic for next year.

Here’s hoping we hit a grand slam on the QB position via portal, the entire staff is on the same page, & we see us go from 5, to 7, to 10 wins next season.
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Great stuff brother 👊🏾
 
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Where are the big wigs that supposedly sat down with Richt and wanted him to fire his son. It’s time for them to have a talk with Mario about his in game incompetence and to give full control to the OC. I know it would be bad for optics but the way they’re throwing money around make Dorsey say no bring Coley back and go get Corey Raymond
 
Uncut Co Cane said:
Where are the big wigs that supposedly sat down with Richt and wanted him to fire his son. It’s time for them to have a talk with Mario about his in game incompetence and to give full control to the OC. I know it would be bad for optics but the way they’re throwing money around make Dorsey say no bring Coley back and go get Corey Raymond
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Big wigs?

Why do people keep assuming this is a thing? Mario was given the keys to the kingdom. The “big wigs” are him and his boys. He came here because no one was going to question him that was part of the deal.

I was never a fan of him or the hire, but this was the main reason I was concerned. There was never going to be any checks and balances with him. We begged for him to come here with no coaching search and he will get to do whatever he wants for as long as he wants.
 
I will say that I am very impressed/surprised w the d line production; with this list of def lineman we had available

- Bain
- Harvey
- Chantz
- Taylor (missed last 2 (or 1.5) games w injury)
- JHH
- Deen (missed 2 games w injury)
- Moten
- Gore
- Lichetenstein
 
casualcane said:
Do we win 8 games next year and if not when does the seat get warm?
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10 Year Contract, ACC might win FSU lawsuit (2036 GOR affirmed) with E$ECPN paying the same thanks to Swofford...Reality bites; let's hope some P2 team (either MSU, Purdue. etc.) fires there most recent hire and likes the fake Chronochallengebal toughness and takes him off our hands.
 
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