Recruiting in the Deep South

[lindend]

Every time we offer a recruit from Bama or MS, someone inevitably asks, yea, but do we have any chance here? @Odysseus says its virtually impossible to pull a kid from the "Slave belt". @DMoney even created a thread about why we need to stop recruiting kids from small towns.

Stop recruiting small towns

The Christian Williams transfer highlights a couple things. First, Rumph needs to do a better job recruiting corners. There are plenty of threads on this topic. The other is a broader reality about Miami recruiting: we need to stop wasting time with small-town players. Obviously, there is a...

www.canesinsight.com

@Zanecane requested a thread to see how our offers do long term to kids in this area. So here we go. Tracking kids we seriously recruited. Not just some random offer. Is it worthwhile or a waste of time to recruit this area of the country especially when you have UM friendly areas like TX that probably could use more focus.

2025

Recruit	Position	Stars	City/State	City Population	Area Population	College	$EC Offers	ACC Offers	Miami Ties	Comment
Zion Grady	DE	5*	Enterprise, AL	28k			YES	YES
Eric Winters	LB	4*	Enterprise, AL	28k			YES	YES
Jared Smith	DE	5*	Alabaster, AL	33K	200K		YES	YES
Anquon "Newboy" Fegans	S	5*	Alabaster, AL	33k	200k		YES	YES
Alvin "A Train" Henderson	RB	4*	Elba, AL	3.4k			YES	YES
Lamar Williams	OL		Havana, FL	1.7k
Na'eem Offord	CB	5*	Birmingham, AL	~200k	~200k		YES	YES
Justus “Jay” Terry	DT	5*	Machester, GA	3.5k			YES		YES*
Elyiss Williams	TE	5*	Kingsland, GA	18k	54.7k		YES
Malik Autry	DT	4*	Opelika, AL	35k	187k

* Father is reported to be a huge Miami fan and Leon Sercy has lots of family is his town.


2024

Closing percentage: 50%

Recruit	Position	Stars	City/State	City Population	Area Population	College	$EC Offers	ACC Offers	Miami Ties	Comment
Kamarion (Big Kam) Franklin	DT/DE	5*	Lake Cormorant MS	2k		Ole Miss	YES	YES	None	Grandma pulled the rug out of this recruitment
Cole McConathy	DE	3*	Spanish Fort, AL	10k	~200k	Miami	NO	YES	NO	Could be special, absolute terror in Bama HS football.
Kevin Riley	RB	4*	Tuscaloosa, AL	110k		Bama Miami	YES	YES	NO	Supposedly wanted to get out of state until penal hail mary happened
J'Marion ‘‘Phat’’ Burnette	RB	4*	Andalusia, AL	8.9k		Auburn	YES		None
Rydarrius "Red" Morgan	S	3*	Phoenix City, AL	37k	~200k	Bama F$U	YES	YES	None	Flipped the moment Saban offered
Cameron Pruitt	LB	4*	Theodore, AL	6.2k	~200k	Miami			None	Never flipped (surprisingly)
Ryan "Hollywood" Williams	WR	5*	Saraland, AL	16.1k	~200k	Bama	YES		None	Visited for a cup of tea
Artavius Jones	DT	4*	Blountstown, FL	2.2k		Miami	SOME	YES		Lots of F$U flip rumors but stayed committed throughout the cycle
Markel Bell	OL	JUCO	Cleveland, MS	11.1k		Miami	YES	YES		$EC came calling, but he picked the Canes.
Ny Carr	WR	4*	Moultrie, GA	14.6k		Miami	YES	YES		Flipped from UGA

 

[lindend]

Should the Northwest Panhandle be included in this data (i.e. Blountstown, FL for Jones)?

 

[Hurricane23]

Should the Northwest Panhandle be included in this data (i.e. Blountstown, FL for Jones)?

Yes

 

[Dwinstitles]

We can land them now with Mario and no Saban. Let’s not cap and say we can’t get a Bama kid. They brand new on the trail again they lost all their swag when that man retired.

 

[Damiencane86]

We can land them now with Mario and no Saban. Let’s not cap and say we can’t get a Bama kid. They brand new on the trail again they lost all their swag when that man retired.

McConathey from Bama too

 

[Dwinstitles]

McConathey from Bama too

Yup we already have relationships on the roster. Bama doesn’t carry that fear anymore and that offer now doesn’t mean “take a look at the film”.

Now when they offer it’s not like it’s a Saban eval. I look at their offer now like a piece of cardboard with old bubble gum on it, and the pen is made of everyone’s tooth from the area.

 

[Brains]

Should the Northwest Panhandle be included in this data (i.e. Blountstown, FL for Jones)?

Yes, clearly.

 

[supacane]

Its about relationships. You cant show up when kids are 4 and 5 stsr rising juniors. U start it when they are entering high school even before. We have Mario. We have gotten players from regions people thought off limits already and i expect it to continue.

 

[DMoney]

Every time we offer a recruit from Bama or MS, someone inevitably asks, yea, but do we have any chance here? @Odysseus says its virtually impossible to pull a kid from the "Slave belt". @DMoney even created a thread about why we need to stop recruiting kids from small towns.

Stop recruiting small towns

The Christian Williams transfer highlights a couple things. First, Rumph needs to do a better job recruiting corners. There are plenty of threads on this topic. The other is a broader reality about Miami recruiting: we need to stop wasting time with small-town players. Obviously, there is a...

www.canesinsight.com

@Zanecane requested a thread to see how our offers do long term to kids in this area. So here we go. Tracking kids we seriously recruited. Not just some random offer. Is it worthwhile or a waste of time to recruit this area of the country especially when you have UM friendly areas like TX that probably could use more focus.

2025

Recruit	Position	Stars	College	Miami Ties	Comment
Zion Grady	DE	5*
Anquon "Newboy" Fegans	S	5*

2024

Closing percentage: 29%

Recruit	Position	Stars	State	College	Miami Ties	Comment
Kamarion (Big Kam) Franklin	DT/DE	5*	Lake Cormorant MS	Ole Miss	None	Grandma pulled the rug out of this recruitment
Cole McConathy	DE	3*	Spanish Fort, AL	Miami	None	Could be special, absolute terror in Bama HS football.
Kevin Riley	RB	4*	Tuscaloosa, AL	Bama Miami	None	Supposedly wanted to get out of state until penal hail mary happened
J'Marion ‘‘Phat’’ Burnette	RB	4*	Andalusia, AL	Auburn	None
Rydarrius "Red" Morgan	S	3*	Phoenix City, AL	Bama F$U	None	Flipped the moment Saban offered
Cameron Pruitt	LB	4*	Theodore, AL	Miami	None	Never flipped (surprisingly)
Ryan "Hollywood" Williams	WR	5*	Saraland, AL	Bama	None	Visited for a cup of tea

While the two kids we got from Alabama are from the South, they are from a fairly large metropolitan area (Mobile).

 

[Brains]

Ny Carr should be on this list.

 

[Brains]

Dylan Day and Deryc Plazz are from metros, but they also fit regionally.

 

[TwentySix]

While the two kids we got from Alabama are from the South, they are from a fairly large metropolitan area (Mobile).

I was about to say, Spanish Fort and Theodore may as well be Mobile.

 

[305407cane]

thankfully Alpharetta isn’t in Mississippi for nickel

 

[Odysseus]

Should the Northwest Panhandle be included in this data (i.e. Blountstown, FL for Jones)?

Yes definitely include the panhandle and add Jones to the only guy we got from the slave belt states, along with the juco o-linemen Bell

 

[hollyhood27]

Should the Northwest Panhandle be included in this data (i.e. Blountstown, FL for Jones)?

GA and LA kids also? (Judd, Day...also offered a few guys from those areas)

 

[Odysseus]

McConathey from Bama too

That's right add him too. Plus those states might be realistic with Saban gone now

 

[gacaneaddict]

I would say another caveat would be so the big time area ACC/SEC schools want the kid?

For instance Ny Carr was a huge win. State of Ga, was a UGA commit.

Judd wasn't a big SEC offer kid.

Cole M wasn't someone Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, UGA, etc.. chased.

Day wasn't pursued by LSU did any other SEC schools push hard for him? Shows offers from Mississippi schools.


Also, not saying these kids won't turn out to be good players, just from a recurring perspective. Easier to beat Louisville for Alabama kid than say Auburn or of course Alabama.

 

[jrock2332]

For me if all things are equal nil possible playing time coaching training no way I turn down a city like Miami for Tuscaloosa if all things are equal but everyone is different.

 

[skeeter]

Markel Bell…From Miss originally, juco in Miss

 

[Paranos]

Every time we offer a recruit from Bama or MS, someone inevitably asks, yea, but do we have any chance here? @Odysseus says its virtually impossible to pull a kid from the "Slave belt". @DMoney even created a thread about why we need to stop recruiting kids from small towns.

Stop recruiting small towns

The Christian Williams transfer highlights a couple things. First, Rumph needs to do a better job recruiting corners. There are plenty of threads on this topic. The other is a broader reality about Miami recruiting: we need to stop wasting time with small-town players. Obviously, there is a...

www.canesinsight.com

@Zanecane requested a thread to see how our offers do long term to kids in this area. So here we go. Tracking kids we seriously recruited. Not just some random offer. Is it worthwhile or a waste of time to recruit this area of the country especially when you have UM friendly areas like TX that probably could use more focus.

2025

Recruit	Position	Stars	College	Miami Ties	Comment
Zion Grady	DE	5*
Anquon "Newboy" Fegans	S	5*

2024

Closing percentage: 29%

Recruit	Position	Stars	State	College	Miami Ties	Comment
Kamarion (Big Kam) Franklin	DT/DE	5*	Lake Cormorant MS	Ole Miss	None	Grandma pulled the rug out of this recruitment
Cole McConathy	DE	3*	Spanish Fort, AL	Miami	None	Could be special, absolute terror in Bama HS football.
Kevin Riley	RB	4*	Tuscaloosa, AL	Bama Miami	None	Supposedly wanted to get out of state until penal hail mary happened
J'Marion ‘‘Phat’’ Burnette	RB	4*	Andalusia, AL	Auburn	None
Rydarrius "Red" Morgan	S	3*	Phoenix City, AL	Bama F$U	None	Flipped the moment Saban offered
Cameron Pruitt	LB	4*	Theodore, AL	Miami	None	Never flipped (surprisingly)
Ryan "Hollywood" Williams	WR	5*	Saraland, AL	Bama	None	Visited for a cup of tea

Great breakdown.

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