Recruiting in Present day CFB and how it impacts Butch

[CaneScott]

Winning is important, no doubt, but today celebrity is so, so important everywhere -- see Trump. Butch has his own documentary, U part 2. He also has huge number of NFL stars he recruited and the best of these kids are worried most about getting to the NFL. Butch might in fact have an even bigger edge today than 15 years ago. EVERYONE knows him now. Everyone knows all those players HE sent to NFL. So while other coaches might have more contact with local kids than before, Butch also has a huge NEW weapon, his name recognition.

If Urban makes an impression of kids saying "you are my next Percy" then imagine Butch with "you are my next ....PICK A ALL PRO name". Butch can walk into a home where Urban and Saban are sitting in the livingroom and wave his hand, "move over children, the man is back in town!"

And then Urban and Saban pull out their 6 rings and laugh in his face.

1 NC and 2 super bowl rings look pretty good too, I imagine.

Butch would have to work for sure to keep kids at home, but does anybody here think he's afraid of recruiting against the big boys? That he wouldn't be all in on recruits? Every time Butch talks about coaching he talks about recruiting & developing kids. He loves it.

As far as pressure to win right away, I think enough wins will come early for this not to be a huge issue. Even if he only wins 8 games and the team shows flashes, there will be hope. And, once you get a critical mass of talent, other talent will want in.

If he falls flat on his face with a losing season in the 2nd year, there are problems, but I don't think he has to win 10 games out of the gate to get kids to come to UM.

I'm not all that sure kids are more impressed by rings that are decades old, versus the 6 rings they witnessed those two coaches win in their lifetime.

True. Still, those super bowl rings might turn a few heads tho.

I just don't buy the idea that Saban and Urban are untouchable in recruiting. Butch could make some noise down here for sure, imo.

His super bowl rings are as a coordinator over 2 decades ago... no one gives a **** about them.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

And then Urban and Saban pull out their 6 rings and laugh in his face.

1 NC and 2 super bowl rings look pretty good too, I imagine.

Butch would have to work for sure to keep kids at home, but does anybody here think he's afraid of recruiting against the big boys? That he wouldn't be all in on recruits? Every time Butch talks about coaching he talks about recruiting & developing kids. He loves it.

As far as pressure to win right away, I think enough wins will come early for this not to be a huge issue. Even if he only wins 8 games and the team shows flashes, there will be hope. And, once you get a critical mass of talent, other talent will want in.

If he falls flat on his face with a losing season in the 2nd year, there are problems, but I don't think he has to win 10 games out of the gate to get kids to come to UM.

I'm not all that sure kids are more impressed by rings that are decades old, versus the 6 rings they witnessed those two coaches win in their lifetime.

True. Still, those super bowl rings might turn a few heads tho.

I just don't buy the idea that Saban and Urban are untouchable in recruiting. Butch could make some noise down here for sure, imo.

His super bowl rings are as a coordinator over 2 decades ago... no one gives a **** about them.

Put up or shut the fvck up. You talk too much with nothing to back it up with but a ******* keyboard. Time to be a man or forever be a woman.

http://https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/butch-davis-hc-ill-bet-account/93855



Now what do you have to say son?

 

[CaneScott]

1 NC and 2 super bowl rings look pretty good too, I imagine.

Butch would have to work for sure to keep kids at home, but does anybody here think he's afraid of recruiting against the big boys? That he wouldn't be all in on recruits? Every time Butch talks about coaching he talks about recruiting & developing kids. He loves it.

As far as pressure to win right away, I think enough wins will come early for this not to be a huge issue. Even if he only wins 8 games and the team shows flashes, there will be hope. And, once you get a critical mass of talent, other talent will want in.

If he falls flat on his face with a losing season in the 2nd year, there are problems, but I don't think he has to win 10 games out of the gate to get kids to come to UM.

I'm not all that sure kids are more impressed by rings that are decades old, versus the 6 rings they witnessed those two coaches win in their lifetime.

True. Still, those super bowl rings might turn a few heads tho.

I just don't buy the idea that Saban and Urban are untouchable in recruiting. Butch could make some noise down here for sure, imo.

His super bowl rings are as a coordinator over 2 decades ago... no one gives a **** about them.

Put up or shut the fvck up. You talk too much with nothing to back it up with but a ******* keyboard. Time to be a man or forever be a woman.

http://https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/butch-davis-hc-ill-bet-account/93855

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Now what do you have to say son?

His 2 super bowl rings are still pretty worthless in the eyes of most people... I think you take the internet a little to seriously.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

I'm not all that sure kids are more impressed by rings that are decades old, versus the 6 rings they witnessed those two coaches win in their lifetime.

True. Still, those super bowl rings might turn a few heads tho.

I just don't buy the idea that Saban and Urban are untouchable in recruiting. Butch could make some noise down here for sure, imo.

His super bowl rings are as a coordinator over 2 decades ago... no one gives a **** about them.

Put up or shut the fvck up. You talk too much with nothing to back it up with but a ******* keyboard. Time to be a man or forever be a woman.

http://https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/butch-davis-hc-ill-bet-account/93855

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Now what do you have to say son?

His 2 super bowl rings are still pretty worthless in the eyes of most people... I think you take the internet a little to seriously.

So are you a man or a woman? Put up now while you have the chance or forever be known as a btich.

 

[kryptonite]

I'm not all that sure kids are more impressed by rings that are decades old, versus the 6 rings they witnessed those two coaches win in their lifetime.

True. Still, those super bowl rings might turn a few heads tho.

I just don't buy the idea that Saban and Urban are untouchable in recruiting. Butch could make some noise down here for sure, imo.

His super bowl rings are as a coordinator over 2 decades ago... no one gives a **** about them.

Put up or shut the fvck up. You talk too much with nothing to back it up with but a ******* keyboard. Time to be a man or forever be a woman.

http://https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/butch-davis-hc-ill-bet-account/93855

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Now what do you have to say son?

His 2 super bowl rings are still pretty worthless in the eyes of most people... I think you take the internet a little to seriously.

Disagree. More recent rings carry more weight, but I doubt many 18 YO kids are unimpressed by championship rings from any ers. Also, I'd watch out or that angry guy will demand that you pull out your "pistol".

 

[CaneScott]

True. Still, those super bowl rings might turn a few heads tho.

I just don't buy the idea that Saban and Urban are untouchable in recruiting. Butch could make some noise down here for sure, imo.

His super bowl rings are as a coordinator over 2 decades ago... no one gives a **** about them.

Put up or shut the fvck up. You talk too much with nothing to back it up with but a ******* keyboard. Time to be a man or forever be a woman.

http://https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/butch-davis-hc-ill-bet-account/93855

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Now what do you have to say son?

His 2 super bowl rings are still pretty worthless in the eyes of most people... I think you take the internet a little to seriously.

Disagree. More recent rings carry more weight, but I doubt many 18 YO kids are unimpressed by championship rings from any ers. Also, I'd watch out or that angry guy will demand that you pull out your "pistol".

Maybe if he was the Head Coach they still hold weight but as a coordinator im finding it hard to believe that anyone really cares about them.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

I've seen scary btiches before. Many times.


All talk with no mic.
All hat not cattle.
All trousers no legs.

I'm not saying you are like that but you obviously haven't shown otherwise.

 

[kryptonite]

His super bowl rings are as a coordinator over 2 decades ago... no one gives a **** about them.

Put up or shut the fvck up. You talk too much with nothing to back it up with but a ******* keyboard. Time to be a man or forever be a woman.

http://https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/butch-davis-hc-ill-bet-account/93855

View attachment 33983

Now what do you have to say son?

His 2 super bowl rings are still pretty worthless in the eyes of most people... I think you take the internet a little to seriously.

Disagree. More recent rings carry more weight, but I doubt many 18 YO kids are unimpressed by championship rings from any ers. Also, I'd watch out or that angry guy will demand that you pull out your "pistol".

Maybe if he was the Head Coach they still hold weight but as a coordinator im finding it hard to believe that anyone really cares about them.

You may have a point there.

 

[kryptonite]

I've seen scary btiches before. Many times.


All talk with no mic.
All hat not cattle.
All trousers no legs.

I'm not saying you are like that but you obviously haven't shown otherwise.

Why would cattle need hats?

 

[CaneScott]

Put up or shut the fvck up. You talk too much with nothing to back it up with but a ******* keyboard. Time to be a man or forever be a woman.

http://https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/butch-davis-hc-ill-bet-account/93855

View attachment 33983

Now what do you have to say son?

His 2 super bowl rings are still pretty worthless in the eyes of most people... I think you take the internet a little to seriously.

Disagree. More recent rings carry more weight, but I doubt many 18 YO kids are unimpressed by championship rings from any ers. Also, I'd watch out or that angry guy will demand that you pull out your "pistol".

Maybe if he was the Head Coach they still hold weight but as a coordinator im finding it hard to believe that anyone really cares about them.

You may have a point there.

I mean obviously its cool and it is a worth noting, but I have to feel like any attempts to recruit using them would come off douchey at the very least. Like "Hey, go check out my Wikipedia page, I actually was a coordinator on those Dallas teams from the 90s".

 

[kryptonite]

Despite what many think, nobody knows how he would do this time around. While he's not my first choice, I wouldn't mind having him back. I'm basing that on the assumption that he can still work whatever magic he had at Miami and UNC and that that magic wasn't contained in a ring. Ring might be helpful, but it's the fact that he sold his soul to the devil that gives him the recruiting power. So, in conclusion, Butch is a pretty good choice because he's working for the devil.

 

[Gatorhater]

And then Urban and Saban pull out their 6 rings and laugh in his face.

1 NC and 2 super bowl rings look pretty good too, I imagine.

Butch would have to work for sure to keep kids at home, but does anybody here think he's afraid of recruiting against the big boys? That he wouldn't be all in on recruits? Every time Butch talks about coaching he talks about recruiting & developing kids. He loves it.

As far as pressure to win right away, I think enough wins will come early for this not to be a huge issue. Even if he only wins 8 games and the team shows flashes, there will be hope. And, once you get a critical mass of talent, other talent will want in.

If he falls flat on his face with a losing season in the 2nd year, there are problems, but I don't think he has to win 10 games out of the gate to get kids to come to UM.

I'm not all that sure kids are more impressed by rings that are decades old, versus the 6 rings they witnessed those two coaches win in their lifetime.

True. Still, those super bowl rings might turn a few heads tho.

I just don't buy the idea that Saban and Urban are untouchable in recruiting. Butch could make some noise down here for sure, imo.

His super bowl rings are as a coordinator over 2 decades ago... no one gives a **** about them.

I tend to agree with you, but think what matters to 18 year olds who have thought about nothing but Sundays their whole lives and I give you 29 FIRST ROUND draft picks and the millions of $$$$ those players got. I'm thinking that Butch gets seat at table with Nick and I am not sure there is any room left for Urban. Jimbo is outside knocking on the window(especially after Title IX shuts down the free rape clinic at FSU). You got any other coach who gets to sit with Nick? I doubt it.