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Not sure what else can be said about this. I know our location has its advantages but we rank 57th out of 124 schools. I also realize we are not a big revenue program like Texas or just about every SEC school. Although, I could make the argument that that is a result of under-investment.

So what do others think? Phuckery and lack of commitment or are we just that fortunate due to location that we don't have to spend as much as other places. Imagine if we just spend another $500,000 annually within the state of Florida.

Updated: Men's Athletic Recruiting Budget is $668,082 according to self-reported numbers to Dept of Ed. That encompasses all of Men's Athletics at UM.

The numbers below are for both men's and women's athletics.

School Recruiting Budgets
Auburn $2,796,184
Tennessee $2,387,201
Oklahoma $2,002,692
Michigan $1,987,719
Notre Dame $1,855,778
Nebraska $1,794,747
Alabama $1,785,254
Kentucky $1,775,424
Ohio State $1,738,633
Penn State $1,694,982
Kansas $1,675,403
Illinois $1,654,915
Baylor $1,610,017
Florida $1,605,440
Texas Tech $1,594,213
Georgia $1,540,631
Vanderbilt $1,512,151
North Carolina $1,494,503
Arkansas $1,491,303
Washington $1,466,929
Minnesota $1,431,217
Duke $1,405,291
Texas $1,405,178
Iowa State $1,382,794
Oregon $1,379,885
NC State $1,379,431
Georgia Tech $1,361,426
Indiana $1,356,996
Michigan State $1,351,444
LSU $1,346,020
Missouri $1,336,596
Louisville $1,334,678
West Virginia $1,318,021
Clemson $1,299,872
Texas A&M $1,295,315
Iowa $1,275,114
Mississippi $1,245,317
Arizona $1,204,161
Virginia Tech $1,196,171
Kansas State $1,190,341
Virginia $1,184,313
Utah $1,184,050
Stanford $1,182,434
UCLA $1,173,877
Arizona State $1,172,091
Air Force $1,168,387
Purdue $1,141,492
South Carolina $1,103,215
Mississippi State $1,098,984
Florida State $1,092,061
USC $1,088,363
Army $1,082,018
Oregon State $1,071,164
Syracuse $1,011,806
Wake Forest $ 977,616
Miami (FL) $ 958,655
Northwestern $ 945,740
Wisconsin $ 934,893
Colorado State $ 933,372
Wash St. $ 932,177
TCU $ 919,545
California $ 912,405
Pittsburgh $ 892,888
Navy $ 887,667
Colorado $ 875,863
Rutgers $ 858,692
SMU $ 848,004
Memphis $ 835,438
Oklahoma State $ 830,563
UMASS $ 825,232
South Florida $ 813,968
Brigham Young $ 793,659
UNLV $ 792,348
Boston College $ 786,087
Connecticut $ 780,508
Maryland $ 777,678
Cincinnati $ 740,279
Houston $ 702,967
Hawaii $ 659,213
New Mexico $ 643,258
UCF $ 623,610
Idaho $ 616,004
Tulsa $ 599,765
South Alabama $ 572,194
Miami (OH) $ 553,079
Ohio $ 548,296
Western Kent $ 536,297
San Diego State $ 536,224
Utah State $ 531,737
Marshall $ 528,004
East Carolina $ 523,132
Central Michigan $ 519,051
UTEP $ 509,906
Bowling Green $ 495,576
UAB $ 492,591
Middle Tenn. St $ 490,426
Tulane $ 490,405
Temple $ 482,424
Akron $ 480,188
Rice $ 478,033
Wyoming $ 468,355
Nevada $ 455,619
Buffalo $ 453,148
Florida Atlantic $ 446,368
Boise State $ 446,068
Eastern Mich $ 440,950
Southern Miss $ 421,661
FIU l $ 418,919
New Mexico St $ 417,975
San Jose State $ 415,517
Fresno State $ 408,090
Toledo $ 402,639
Arkansas State $ 396,511
Louisiana-Laf $ 388,503
Ball State $ 381,883
Western Mich $ 363,044
Texas San Marc $ 361,290
Northern Illinois $ 345,384
Kent State $ 341,659
North Texas $ 340,403
Louisiana Tech $ 325,813
Troy $ 309,125
Louisiana-Mon $ 166,312

https://b2.caspio.com/dp.asp

Here is a link to Dept. of Ed site with breakdown of UM specific revenues and expenses: http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstDet...43d392f33302f323031342031313a32363a303120414d
 
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FSU spends only 150k more than we do. UF spends ~700k more, and gets worse results.

Sonm thing to keep in mind is that since we're located in the national hotbed of talent, we don't need to travel as far or as expensively to keep up with top-rated recruits.
 
PUNCICANE said:
Michigan is 4th and FSU is 51st..............
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And look at Kansas, Iowa State, Illinois and Vanderbilt. All Top 20 spenders for recruiting. Amazing.

Some of this has to be individual accounting practices.

I guess corching can't be overstated.
 
These numbers explain why Kansas is so good. Big recruiting budget, multi-millions for a corch. I guess money isn't everything.
 
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How much does it cost to drive to Central, MNW, STA, BTW?

Does anyone put anything in context? Does anyone understand why Miami ALWAYS has the ability to win? Does anyone understand why this is a great job?
 
Another thing about the data, is while we can safely presume the lion's share is dedicated to football, we don't actually know the breakdown per sport. These are aggregated numbers of all athletic department activities.

I put everything into an excel spreadsheet to play around with it. If I get a chance, I will run some regression analysis for fun and see what comes up.
 
You have to remember in regards to this budget that just the proximity helps us keep our costs low.

All the athletes we want are nearby hence lower needed budgets. Notre Dame recruits nationally, hence their budgets are going to be higher. Auburn spends double the amount of Texas, and it isn't like Texas doesn't have any money. That's why we see FSU so near us because we often recruit against one another, but they wander a little more into the Bible Belt, due to proximity.

I'm not sure there is a cause and effect with these numbers, but it certainly isn't exclusive of the equation.
 
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There are statistics that matter. This is not one of them due to all the obvious reasons. No reason to spend more here just to say you did.

I'd rather they plug any additional dollars into coaches, practice bubble funding.
 
recruiting budgets = travel costs for the coaches

most of the best recruits are in South Florida.

our coaches aren't booking chartered flights from Gables to Booker T, Aquinas, or even Pompano. but almost everyone else on the list do.
 
Arehel said:
You have to remember in regards to this budget that just the proximity helps us keep our costs low.

All the athletes we want are nearby hence lower needed budgets. Notre Dame recruits nationally, hence their budgets are going to be higher. Auburn spends double the amount of Texas, and it isn't like Texas doesn't have any money. That's why we see FSU so near us because we often recruit against one another, but they wander a little more into the Bible Belt, due to proximity.

I'm not sure there is a cause and effect with these numbers, but it certainly isn't exclusive of the equation.
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This. We can put a championship team together on a tank of gas.
 
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You should pull a top 15 class with enough gas to get to Palm Beach alone.
 
HurricaneU said:
Another thing about the data, is while we can safely presume the lion's share is dedicated to football, we don't actually know the breakdown per sport. These are aggregated numbers of all athletic department activities.

I put everything into an excel spreadsheet to play around with it. If I get a chance, I will run some regression analysis for fun and see what comes up.
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i'm assuming this is why Kansas and Kentucky are so high, because a large part is going to basketball
 
There are some other interesting numbers in the report. On the revenue side, the same schools keep rising to the top more or less regarding Ticket Sales, Contributions and Donations, Licensing and Royalties, etc.

Hard to compare with UM though because we don't report that information.
 
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HurricaneU said:
There are some other interesting numbers in the report. On the revenue side, the same schools keep rising to the top more or less regarding Ticket Sales, Contributions and Donations, Licensing and Royalties, etc.

Hard to compare with UM though because we don't report that information.
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Left out the part about hiring competent coaches. That is a big part of it. You know something we have had for over a decade.
 
bshaw28 said:
HurricaneU said:
Another thing about the data, is while we can safely presume the lion's share is dedicated to football, we don't actually know the breakdown per sport. These are aggregated numbers of all athletic department activities.

I put everything into an excel spreadsheet to play around with it. If I get a chance, I will run some regression analysis for fun and see what comes up.
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i'm assuming this is why Kansas and Kentucky are so high, because a large part is going to basketball
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Would make sense. Louisville, while certainly vastly improved in football, is still a basketball school. My hypotheses is that explains the $25,888,524 and 17 overall ranking for revenue in ticket sales as much or more than the football program.

Wisconsin is killing it in Contributions and Donations: $58,907,876.
 
No issue with this. We traditionally recruit within a 200 mile radius unlike any other school on that list (excluding FIU, FAU maybe). Smart business by UM
 
Consigliere said:
HurricaneU said:
There are some other interesting numbers in the report. On the revenue side, the same schools keep rising to the top more or less regarding Ticket Sales, Contributions and Donations, Licensing and Royalties, etc.

Hard to compare with UM though because we don't report that information.
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Left out the part about hiring competent coaches. That is a big part of it. You know something we have had for over a decade.
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That metric is self-reported every Saturday.
 
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