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Re: Pay for Play...the NCAA is not the villain

Silentobserver said:
You're correct. Miami will no longer exist in an environment where players are paid top dollar.
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Based on what? Some players signing endorsement deals? This isn't about schools being able to offer millions to get HS recruits to sign. It's about being able to market themselves and make money off their name. A lot of these kids are known all over America and can't make a dime off of it. Who am I tell them no you are going to ruin Miami because some used care salemen paid you a few grand to be in his commerical.
 
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Silentobserver said:
Not sure it was a rant, but while I never used the word money the concept is implied specifically the last paragraph
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Right, and you consistently make the claim that competitive sports should be removed from schools. Which competitive sports make any kind of money at all? If all you mean is football and basketball, go back and rewrite it so it's clear.
 
HamburgerSV said:
I laugh at morons that think Miami will no longer exist if athletes are allowed to make money off their image (this new law isn’t about colleges paying players it’s about letting them profit from their likeness)
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Good grief.

And if players are allowed to profit from their likeness, what is stopping Tuscaloosa Chevy from paying a fortune for a guy's likeness?
 
PanamaCityCanes said:
Good grief.

And if players are allowed to profit from their likeness, what is stopping Tuscaloosa Chevy from paying a fortune for a guy's likeness?
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So what? Are you a communist who wants to limit what someone can earn? The fact that this thing may or may not negatively affect your team isn’t a valid reason to be against this lol. Good grief.
 
PanamaCityCanes said:
Right, and you consistently make the claim that competitive sports should be removed from schools. Which competitive sports make any kind of money at all? If all you mean is football and basketball, go back and rewrite it so it's clear.
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Not sure why you're so emotional, but staying somewhat on point, is there any reason for high school and college games (football, basketball, soccer whatever sport) to be on tv?
 
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RVACane said:
The NFL is a business. The NCAA is a business. I don’t see how the NFL should bear the burden of paying people who are not employed by their business.
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Because they couldn’t exist without it. They have a vested interest in the health of the CFB system and are getting a free ride.
 
TimeB0mb said:
The 18 year old can make that choice for himself. If the law says an 18 year old is an adult, can vote, and buy cigarettes, then a pro league should not be allowed to prevent adults (18 or older) from trying to make a living, no matter how many years he is out of high school.
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I'm not saying I don't agree, but society has pushed to redefine "kids". The same people who believe you should be able to sue and win because your hot coffee was served hot would have a field day the first time a teenager got seriously injured.
 
Cane_Mutiny said:
I generally agree. The easy solution is to do away with the 3-years-out-of-high-school eligibility rule -- which the NFL doesn't want to do for the reasons OP lays out. Take away that rule and introduce minor league pro football, and most of the arguments for paying college players disappear.

However, OP is wrong when he suggests that the NCAA isn't complicit. They benefit from that rule too because it forces all the top-tier young players to play college ball, directly increasing revenue in college football (and basketball).
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Create a minor league and CFB revenues wouldn’t change much.

Also, never said NCAA wasn’t complicit.
 
HamburgerSV said:
I laugh at morons that think Miami will no longer exist if athletes are allowed to make money off their image (this new law isn’t about colleges paying players it’s about letting them profit from their likeness)
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Lol at you thinking thats how it will go down. when the allstar qb is raking in cash and the backup center is making nothing. It must be nice living in your world where situations arent taken advantage of.
 
JD08 said:
That 3 yr eligibility rule is so 30 yr old linebackers don't cripple a 17/18 yr old running back.
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LOL...no it’s not. It’s 100% so the NFL doesn’t have to pay for the development of those players. They just hide behind safety concerns.
 
HamburgerSV said:
So what? Are you a communist who wants to limit what someone can earn? The fact that this thing may or may not negatively affect your team isn’t a valid reason to be against this lol. Good grief.
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Lol amateur athletes shouldn't make money. Hence amateur..........
 
PanamaCityCanes said:
Except that you're looking at this purely through the lens of football and men's basketball. Lacrosse doesn't exist at the high school and college level for anyone's entertainment. And the vast majority of college athletes aren't going to make one red cent in that sport at any level. They play it because they love it and they want to play for their school. And for some reason you want to end all of that.
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LOL, why should I care if some trust fund baby doesn't get to play LAX? If they really wanna play, either drop to D2, or they should pay for it, they can afford it.
 
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crossover22[]_[] said:
Lol at you thinking thats how it will go down. when the allstar qb is raking in cash and the backup center is making nothing. It must be nice living in your world where situations arent taken advantage of.
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Not sure what you’re talking about. You saying the backup center is going to be confused as to why he’s not making as much as the all star QB ?
 
Silentobserver said:
Can anyone rationally explain (tradition is not a rational argument) why competitive sports are a part of high schools and colleges?
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American football was invented on college campuses. Long before professional sports were a thing, schools fielded athletic clubs. Of course it wasn't a huge moneymaking industry like today. At the time it was just competitive hobby.
 
JD08 said:
Isn't it their rule that players go to college or wait 3 years? Not saying I agree that they're to blame.
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That’s a very good point. Is that done as part of an agreement with the NCAA??? The NCAA allows one and done in basketball. There could be anti-trust concerns here too if the NCAA is involved with the NFL here. How do they restrict the ability of one group of athletes (football) from earning a living until a certain number of years out of high school on an unequal timeframe to a different group (basketball)??? Is there an age discrimination component too???

I don’t know the answers but I always felt that the NFL and the NCAA walk a thin line here.
 
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