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Ray Lewis Fired Back at Shannon Sharpe about Protest. LOl

CaneFan79 said:
Canedude08 said:
Whenever I hear someone say an athlete of color should "Stick to sports", I also hear "You're here to dance N****r, not speak". I know it hurts some of you to admit this, but athletes today don't have to watch injustice, and keep their mouths shut. Guys like Joe Louis and Jackie Robinson had to pretend they didn't see societal ills, merely because them talking would have put their careers at risk. They had to fight behind the scenes, because they couldn't afford to gain the label of "Race Men". Joe Louis wasn't allowed to take a picture standing next to a white woman, merely because doing so would have jeopardized his title chances. Think that over. He couldn't just go fight and be the best, he had to sell himself as nonthreatening, so white people wouldn't have a problem with him being champ.

Well, athletes today don't have to do that, and it's nice to see that athletes are uniting behind causes greater than themselves. It's amazing that people hide behind false patriotism, but lack the courage to stand up for the ideals the flag allegedly represent. When one of our fellow citizens is having their civil rights violated, when one of us experiences injustice, it is an affront to all. That national anthem they are taking a knee during is supposed to be about bravery, and standing up for what is right. What is more right than standing up for those less fortunate than you?
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My Mom lived through the whole Jackie Robinson experience and related it to me (she knew or met many of the protagonists potrayed in the film 42); his courage was unmatched and was on display long before the Dodgers when he was an Army Officer.

Therein lies the rub. The military sure has had it's egregious errors in handling minority communities, but I dare say it has been the most forthright in trying to keep with Dr. King's maxim "..they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
I have been in 50 plus units in two branches of the military and served with every color, including them being my CO/Commander. Why did the players choose to do something that offends the military? It makes no sense.

After Trump's remarks, every player/coach should have stood, held their helmet/clipboard in their left hand and raised their right hand, Statue of Liberty style. Instead of holding a torch, they should have held copies of their tax returns, with "1040" clearly visible. The amount of reporting on this would have been off the charts.

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I think they should burn flags while kneeling.

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****.... U can love a Cane for what he did for Miami and dislike him for other reasons nothing wrong with that..... **** I think most of the ******* board hate Sapp and he was imo best dt ever
 
I have an opinion so here it is. Consider our country as a family. Your father works two jobs to support the family. There are four children. The older two don't get along with the younger two. The younger two feel like the older two are too bossy. The older two think the younger two are spoiled. The younger two decide to show their displeasure by forgetting Father's Day. The point is that all four are loved by the father. Our flag is the one thing we should consider off limits. Without what the flag represents there would be no right to disagree. Represent your side. Protest peacefully, try to elect people who agree with you, file lawsuits and appeal those lawsuits. The flag guarantees your right to do so. Our president who I voted for used bad jusgement by his comments and made it almost impossible for verily competitive men not to react. They should do so with class but not this way. What you're doing is the worst possible way you can represent your issue. You have turned public opinion against you. The merits of your issues have been lost in your disrepeest for the flag. Stop. Think.
 
Canedude08 said:
Whenever I hear someone say an athlete of color should "Stick to sports", I also hear "You're here to dance N****r, not speak". I know it hurts some of you to admit this, but athletes today don't have to watch injustice, and keep their mouths shut. Guys like Joe Louis and Jackie Robinson had to pretend they didn't see societal ills, merely because them talking would have put their careers at risk. They had to fight behind the scenes, because they couldn't afford to gain the label of "Race Men". Joe Louis wasn't allowed to take a picture standing next to a white woman, merely because doing so would have jeopardized his title chances. Think that over. He couldn't just go fight and be the best, he had to sell himself as nonthreatening, so white people wouldn't have a problem with him being champ.

Well, athletes today don't have to do that, and it's nice to see that athletes are uniting behind causes greater than themselves. It's amazing that people hide behind false patriotism, but lack the courage to stand up for the ideals the flag allegedly represent. When one of our fellow citizens is having their civil rights violated, when one of us experiences injustice, it is an affront to all. That national anthem they are taking a knee during is supposed to be about bravery, and standing up for what is right. What is more right than standing up for those less fortunate than you?
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Very well said. However, you presuppose that all these people are kneeing in protest of something truthful and righteous and somehow NOT anti-American. Kolin took a knee after he had loss his job, had become a basic nobody with newly minted Moslem girlfriend. Why did he take the knee? Was it for attention? Was it for the anti-american communist butcher who face he wears on his tee-shirt? Or was it to impress his America hating Molsem girlfriend? Or do you assume it was for some other cause you consider noble?

If I had to guess, he was and is trying to impress his chick that he hates American enough for her. Is that a noble cause? I think he was trying to insult America. Not that most of us give a crap about what he thinks, but now the fight seems to be on. At issue is what matter: The intend of a gesture or the impact on those it is aimed at? If I call someone the infamous "N" word, does it matter my intent? I doubt it. So when someone refuses to stand for the anthem or pledge why should intent matter? If most of those who view it take it as an insult to the nation and anti-American well then it is. No explanation can excuse it. You have the right to say F-you to the country, cause of those who have given treasure and blood for that right, BUT others have the right to say F-you back. Some people are flippant about the flag and see only the meaning that serve them; others risk life and family for it for all of us.

Under that flag, soldiers burned every home my family owned, stole all our crops, and pillage our lands. The part of me vested in history, hates the stars and stripes with every fiber, but it is the only flag I have and the blood of my family was shed in every war we have ever fought and one before we existed. Disrespect it if you want or defend those who do but understand it stands for the great experiment in freedom that exist nowhere else. For whatever flaws is might have, there is nothing like it in this world so tread lightly about this crap for we know not the world would be like with out it.
 
coolazzice said:
****.... U can love a Cane for what he did for Miami and dislike him for other reasons nothing wrong with that..... **** I think most of the ****ing board hate Sapp and he was imo best dt ever
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Canes are family. I hate it when anyone trashes our family. The world hates Canes, we cannot afford to hate any ourselves. I love talking politics and religion but it is unacceptable to insults Cane family. We should all draw a line about trashing our players when they differ from us. I love Ray and I love Burgess Owens( and I am old enough to have watched him play). I find Burgess agreeable on just about every level and some times I am not sure what the heck Ray is talking about, but both are family and welcome at the table anytime. Please let our players have all the slack possible -- who else has done so much for us.
 
Gatorhater said:
coolazzice said:
****.... U can love a Cane for what he did for Miami and dislike him for other reasons nothing wrong with that..... **** I think most of the ****ing board hate Sapp and he was imo best dt ever
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Canes are family. I hate it when anyone trashes our family. The world hates Canes, we cannot afford to hate any ourselves. I love talking politics and religion but it is unacceptable to insults Cane family. We should all draw a line about trashing our players when they differ from us. I love Ray and I love Burgess Owens( and I am old enough to have watched him play). I find Burgess agreeable on just about every level and some times I am not sure what the heck Ray is talking about, but both are family and welcome at the table anytime. Please let our players have all the slack possible -- who else has done so much for us.
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I love what both players did for the U.... No matter who they are personally doesn't take away from what they did here..... But that doesn't make them immune to criticism when they say and/or do dumb ****
 
coolazzice said:
Gatorhater said:
coolazzice said:
****.... U can love a Cane for what he did for Miami and dislike him for other reasons nothing wrong with that..... **** I think most of the ****ing board hate Sapp and he was imo best dt ever
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Canes are family. I hate it when anyone trashes our family. The world hates Canes, we cannot afford to hate any ourselves. I love talking politics and religion but it is unacceptable to insults Cane family. We should all draw a line about trashing our players when they differ from us. I love Ray and I love Burgess Owens( and I am old enough to have watched him play). I find Burgess agreeable on just about every level and some times I am not sure what the heck Ray is talking about, but both are family and welcome at the table anytime. Please let our players have all the slack possible -- who else has done so much for us.
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I love what both players did for the U.... No matter who they are personally doesn't take away from what they did here..... But that doesn't make them immune to criticism when they say and/or do dumb ****
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Maybe, but we can save them for last and pick on everyone else we disagree with first. By then maybe all of us would be tired and just smile. Maybe it is just me but being a Cane is very special. I have had an exciting and wonderful life on so many levels, but all the years wearing my Canehood on my sleeve just stand out so much that I am prepared to put up with more from a Cane than anyone else. But that's me.
 
The (insert school/team name here) Nation types expect blind alligiance. It is a 'Cane family and families have fights...But they still are a family, and the 'Cane players, alums, students and fans are still a family, especially when gametime rolls around.
 
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This thread really hit off without any mention of the original post lmao.


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Jesus Crisco, that's not even Ray in the **** video and still some of you come out of the woodwork to hate on one of the godfathers of this program. And, yeah, alphas are egotistical blowhards, I can see why that rubs a lot of you the wrong way, reading this weak *** sauce.

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WhatTheHell said:
CaneMonster said:
WhatTheHell said:
Even with him being an all time Miami great I ******* hate this guy.
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Wait, you hate Ray Ray? How can you be true UM fans? Hate him for what? For being passionate! GTFOH
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He's not passionate. He's fake. He's become a caricature of an annoying preacher.

Hate his ******* guts. Oh and he killed that dude.
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I tried to tell ppl Ray is not all he's cracked up to be. Those pos pouncey twins have done more for their hometown then Ray ever has.......


When that clip came out about him going to school with one pair of shoes, tshirt, and jeans, I called him out on it and people here didn't like it.....

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F[_]CK the Flag, F[_]CK this country, F[_]CK Ray Lewis, and F[_]CK the niqqers.

There, have I ****ed everyone off? Did I leave anything out?
 
Canedude08 said:
Whenever I hear someone say an athlete of color should "Stick to sports", I also hear "You're here to dance N****r, not speak". I know it hurts some of you to admit this, but athletes today don't have to watch injustice, and keep their mouths shut. Guys like Joe Louis and Jackie Robinson had to pretend they didn't see societal ills, merely because them talking would have put their careers at risk. They had to fight behind the scenes, because they couldn't afford to gain the label of "Race Men". Joe Louis wasn't allowed to take a picture standing next to a white woman, merely because doing so would have jeopardized his title chances. Think that over. He couldn't just go fight and be the best, he had to sell himself as nonthreatening, so white people wouldn't have a problem with him being champ.

Well, athletes today don't have to do that, and it's nice to see that athletes are uniting behind causes greater than themselves. It's amazing that people hide behind false patriotism, but lack the courage to stand up for the ideals the flag allegedly represent. When one of our fellow citizens is having their civil rights violated, when one of us experiences injustice, it is an affront to all. That national anthem they are taking a knee during is supposed to be about bravery, and standing up for what is right. What is more right than standing up for those less fortunate than you?
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Furthermore, they likely grew up facing racism and bigotry as kids. Now they may in different zip codes, but relatively speaking time wise, their new found riches are new.
 
Hey, listen, Ray Lewis may have killed a couple of guys, I don't know. But he was never actually accused of stabbing the dudes, he was charged as a matter of law for being an alleged party to the murder, for being there and fleeing. The dudes actually accused of the stabbing were acquitted on self defense, and even as Lewis flipped on them, nobody ever accused him of being the knifeman. That "lol he definitely did it" **** is bullshyt.

That said, he's very sanctimonious.

And I like him very much.
 
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Canedude08 said:
Whenever I hear someone say an athlete of color should "Stick to sports", I also hear "You're here to dance N****r, not speak". I know it hurts some of you to admit this, but athletes today don't have to watch injustice, and keep their mouths shut. Guys like Joe Louis and Jackie Robinson had to pretend they didn't see societal ills, merely because them talking would have put their careers at risk. They had to fight behind the scenes, because they couldn't afford to gain the label of "Race Men". Joe Louis wasn't allowed to take a picture standing next to a white woman, merely because doing so would have jeopardized his title chances. Think that over. He couldn't just go fight and be the best, he had to sell himself as nonthreatening, so white people wouldn't have a problem with him being champ.

Well, athletes today don't have to do that, and it's nice to see that athletes are uniting behind causes greater than themselves. It's amazing that people hide behind false patriotism, but lack the courage to stand up for the ideals the flag allegedly represent. When one of our fellow citizens is having their civil rights violated, when one of us experiences injustice, it is an affront to all. That national anthem they are taking a knee during is supposed to be about bravery, and standing up for what is right. What is more right than standing up for those less fortunate than you?
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Thanks for the textbook example of pompassity.
 
CaneFan79 said:
Canedude08 said:
Whenever I hear someone say an athlete of color should "Stick to sports", I also hear "You're here to dance N****r, not speak". I know it hurts some of you to admit this, but athletes today don't have to watch injustice, and keep their mouths shut. Guys like Joe Louis and Jackie Robinson had to pretend they didn't see societal ills, merely because them talking would have put their careers at risk. They had to fight behind the scenes, because they couldn't afford to gain the label of "Race Men". Joe Louis wasn't allowed to take a picture standing next to a white woman, merely because doing so would have jeopardized his title chances. Think that over. He couldn't just go fight and be the best, he had to sell himself as nonthreatening, so white people wouldn't have a problem with him being champ.

Well, athletes today don't have to do that, and it's nice to see that athletes are uniting behind causes greater than themselves. It's amazing that people hide behind false patriotism, but lack the courage to stand up for the ideals the flag allegedly represent. When one of our fellow citizens is having their civil rights violated, when one of us experiences injustice, it is an affront to all. That national anthem they are taking a knee during is supposed to be about bravery, and standing up for what is right. What is more right than standing up for those less fortunate than you?
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My Mom lived through the whole Jackie Robinson experience and related it to me (she knew or met many of the protagonists potrayed in the film 42); his courage was unmatched and was on display long before the Dodgers when he was an Army Officer.

Therein lies the rub. The military sure has had it's egregious errors in handling minority communities, but I dare say it has been the most forthright in trying to keep with Dr. King's maxim "..they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
I have been in 50 plus units in two branches of the military and served with every color, including them being my CO/Commander. Why did the players choose to do something that offends the military? It makes no sense.

After Trump's remarks, every player/coach should have stood, held their helmet/clipboard in their left hand and raised their right hand, Statue of Liberty style. Instead of holding a torch, they should have held copies of their tax returns, with "1040" clearly visible. The amount of reporting on this would have been off the charts.

Game, Set, and Match.
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This entire protest was designed to not offend the military. In fact, both Kaepernick and others have taken great pains to point out that their beef isn't with the military. The entire concept of kneeling instead of sitting on the bench was brought to Kaepernick by a former member of the armed services. The entire "You're disrespecting the troops" trope is nonsense, and it serves as a convenient excuse for those that are uncomfortable with people having the courage to point out this long standing societal ill.
 
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Canedude08 said:
CaneFan79 said:
Canedude08 said:
Whenever I hear someone say an athlete of color should "Stick to sports", I also hear "You're here to dance N****r, not speak". I know it hurts some of you to admit this, but athletes today don't have to watch injustice, and keep their mouths shut. Guys like Joe Louis and Jackie Robinson had to pretend they didn't see societal ills, merely because them talking would have put their careers at risk. They had to fight behind the scenes, because they couldn't afford to gain the label of "Race Men". Joe Louis wasn't allowed to take a picture standing next to a white woman, merely because doing so would have jeopardized his title chances. Think that over. He couldn't just go fight and be the best, he had to sell himself as nonthreatening, so white people wouldn't have a problem with him being champ.

Well, athletes today don't have to do that, and it's nice to see that athletes are uniting behind causes greater than themselves. It's amazing that people hide behind false patriotism, but lack the courage to stand up for the ideals the flag allegedly represent. When one of our fellow citizens is having their civil rights violated, when one of us experiences injustice, it is an affront to all. That national anthem they are taking a knee during is supposed to be about bravery, and standing up for what is right. What is more right than standing up for those less fortunate than you?
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My Mom lived through the whole Jackie Robinson experience and related it to me (she knew or met many of the protagonists potrayed in the film 42); his courage was unmatched and was on display long before the Dodgers when he was an Army Officer.

Therein lies the rub. The military sure has had it's egregious errors in handling minority communities, but I dare say it has been the most forthright in trying to keep with Dr. King's maxim "..they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
I have been in 50 plus units in two branches of the military and served with every color, including them being my CO/Commander. Why did the players choose to do something that offends the military? It makes no sense.

After Trump's remarks, every player/coach should have stood, held their helmet/clipboard in their left hand and raised their right hand, Statue of Liberty style. Instead of holding a torch, they should have held copies of their tax returns, with "1040" clearly visible. The amount of reporting on this would have been off the charts.

Game, Set, and Match.
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This entire protest wasn't designed to offend the military. In fact, both Kaepernick and others have taken great pains to point out that their beef isn't with the military. The entire concept of kneeling instead of sitting on the bench was brought to Kapernick by a former member of the armed services. The entire "You're disrespecting the troops" trope is nonsense, serves as a convenient excuse for those that are uncomfortable with people having the courage to point out this long standing societal ill.
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https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/psysociety/e2809cbut-i-didne28099t-mean-ite2809d-why-ite28099s-so-hard-to-prioritize-impacts-over-intents/

This article tries to explain your argument, but in the end, it falls back to the offended party being the judge:

"We must all focus on how actions that harm others -- regardless of intent -- need to be addressed, not pushed under the rug because the agent "didn't mean" to do anything wrong."

Plain and simple, actions have consequences, some "unintended" but consequences the same. Here is the two major veteran's organizations take:

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/veterans/2017/09/25/vfw-slams-nfl-players-for-anthem-protests/

The NFL is sure not providing a "safe space" for vets not to be offended...Why are college students provided this privilege and not vets?
 
You people are fcking rediculous. Doesn't matter what the thread is about, you guys fall all over yourselves to attack each other. You'd think the Canes would be the most important thing here, but it turns out that bashing other Miami fans/players is way more important. I just don't get treating your family like enemies.
 
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