Rank 'Em

[jruiz]

God **** it if we can't make up our mind about those three, were just gonna have to take them all

 

[skyman]

Really hard to project because different players go different ways plus hard to rank a soph vs. a freshman in college, but....


Its the offseason so lets have fun, also having seen all these cats play last year why not...

My ranking based on if I was a college coach who I would want (duke is obviously #1 because he is the only proven commodity on list)

Duke
Cook
Collins
Sony
Scarlett
Yearby

I dont know how some can sell Cook short, dude literally carried his loaded team some games even with the limited carries. Sony is definitely a weight room warrior and physical freak but when it came time to put up he didnt do it, I wont hold it against him because I know the injury he is coming off but I liked Cook better with regards o junior campaign. Sony should have a tougher schedule this year so it will be interesting to see how he plays against stiff comp. Also these ranking will be different because we all have different preferences in a back.

Yearby outplayed Cook against good comp. Reason being Cook needs big holes opened up for him but Yearby has the wiggle and strength to squeeze thru tighter spaces.

This list shows you don't know what you're talking about.

Sooo reading this statement again and ignoring how ridiculous it is (they run behind the same oline, they arent opening larger holes for Cook than Yearby)

Lets take a look at the stats, I would say "against good comp" leaves alot of room for interpretation however Central played a tough schedule and they have a few games to pick, I choose 6 regular season against top comp that most would agree (Booker T., Manatee, Columbus, Homestead, Carol City and Northwestern) and their tough games in their playoff run.


Booker T.



Cook (also INT For TD)
Att. yds. Avg Td
12 147 12.3 1



Yearby (also played qb 2nd half, threw a TD)
att yds Avg. Td
15 73 4.9 2


Manatee

Cook
Att Yrd Avg. Td
8 95 11.9 0
rec.
1 50 50 1


Yearby
Att Yrd Avg TD
22 138 6.3 2


Columbus

Cook
Att Yds Avg. TD
9 157 17.4 2
Rec.
2 44 22.0 0


Yearby
Att Yds Avg Td
17 94 5.5 1




Homestead


Cook
Att Yds Avg. TD
11 110 10.0 2

Rec.
1 9 9 0



Yearby
Att Yds Avg. TD
14 107 7.6 1

Rec
1 3 3 0





Carol City

Cook

Att Yds Avg TD
12 172 14.3 3


Yearby
Att Yds Avg TD
24 170 7.1 2




Northwestern Round 1


Cook
Att Yds Avg. TD
13 72 5.5 0



Yearby (did throw a td)

Att Yds Avg TD
20 20 1.0 1





Playoffs

Northwestern Round 2


Cook (also block kick)
Att Yds Avg. TD
10 123 12.3 3


Yearby
Att Yds Avg. TD
17 87 5.1 1



Naples

Cook
Att Yds Avg TD
9 155 17.2 3
Rec.
1 78 78 1


Yearby

Att Yds Avg TD
17 98 5.8 2






Gainesville


Cook
Att Yds Avg TD
16 79 4.9 2

Rec.
2 47 23.5 0



Yearby
Att Yds Avg TD
23 125 5.4 2



After doing this, I want to make clear Im a fan of both guys and think both are reallllly good players but when you have people saying you dont know what you are talking about and they just spout stuff off you have to bring facts before you just say stuff. Either way, its all about preference but I didnt say anyones list was better over the other. Hopefully this can spark some healthy debate. Or we can break down stats by how big the holes were for each runner.......

You're not saying much of anything so just go ahead and listen while I school you...

Look at your own stats. The most important one is # of carries.... where Yearby gets twice as many as Cook.

Being a casual fan, you probably don't know why that stat matters, so I'll tell you. It means that his coach trusts him more than the other guy. Plain and simple. And who knows these two better than their HS coach? It means opposing defenses are gameplanning for Yearby, and Cook busts in every now and then as the #2 in the 1, 2, punch combo of Yearby and Cook.

Cook is the Robin to Yearby's Batman.

Another telling stat is who got the carries in the first half, and who got the carries in garbage time.

Cook is your typical speedy guy who isn't that shifty, but once a defense is beaten down and giving up gaping holes, his speed will beat you.

Now, I'm done discussing this.

Reason? Because Sony is faster than Cook, and Cook's speed is his best attribute. It's clear as ice that Sony is more talented than Cook, and if you don't see that, you're in denial.

If you're in denial, that's fine. I feel your pain man. Sony going to UGA ****ing sucks, I know it. The meltdown is going to be epic, but that can't be helped.

Sony is a once in a generation type athlete to come out of South Florida. It is what it is - I don't really do denial.

But go ahead and tell yourself that Cook is on the same level as Sony... who you've been watching and waiting for since 8th ****ing grade.

Atleast I know now I am talking to someone who is making stuff up in his head and didnt actually go to the games. Yea, the coaches save Cook after second half so Yearby can wear down defense. Brilliant. Dude plays both ways, He is full time on defense, he needs a breather. He does twice the work on half as many carries, many games his avg is almost double Yearby. This is kinda like the kobe vs. wade comparison, both talented players but wade gets his work done more efficiently. Anyway you are just grasping while I bought facts. you are trolling, HARD. They dont save cook for the second half my man, heck half the time the game was over by then! Yearby can be batman, cook is just better.

 

[bshaw28]

If you want to argue stats, Cook wins in a runaway. Cooks stats are actually better than Duke's, and both are way ahead of Yearby.

You can argue you like Yearby's ability & style better, that's fine (although I would disagree). But if you try and use stats, you're gonna lose your argument. The stats show Cook gets about twice as many yards when he touches the ball.

The thing to look at is their number of carries. If you evened out the amount of carries between Cook, Duke & Yearby - it would look like this:


Cook (Soph & Jr.) - 217 att - 2,328 yds - 10.7 ypc - 30 td's
Duke (Senior year) - 208 att - 2,087 yds - 10 ypc - 29 td's
Yearby (Junior year) - 212 att - 1,448 yds - 6.8 ypc - 20 td's


Cook vs. Duke - 9 more atts, 250 more yds, 1 more TD's
Cook vs. Yearby - 5 more atts, 900 more yds, 10 more TD's

 

[am1640]

Atleast I know now I am talking to someone who is making stuff up in his head and didnt actually go to the games. Yea, the coaches save Cook after second half so Yearby can wear down defense. Brilliant. Dude plays both ways, He is full time on defense, he needs a breather. He does twice the work on half as many carries, many games his avg is almost double Yearby. This is kinda like the kobe vs. wade comparison, both talented players but wade gets his work done more efficiently. Anyway you are just grasping while I bought facts. you are trolling, HARD. They dont save cook for the second half my man, heck half the time the game was over by then! Yearby can be batman, cook is just better.

yeah don't waste your time this guy is in orbit. It's obvious he doesn't know wth he's talking about he just says something and hopes no one actually knows that it's bs (like the Yearby having better stats than Cook which you just schooled him on). He appears to have a giant infatuation with Sony and is bothered that people feel like someone is better than him.

 

[bAMACANE]

Collins senior highlights were Good man. Dude looked like a beast

 

[User-4525]

If you want to argue stats, Cook wins in a runaway. Cooks stats are actually better than Duke's, and both are way ahead of Yearby.

You can argue you like Yearby's ability & style better, that's fine (although I would disagree). But if you try and use stats, you're gonna lose your argument. The stats show Cook gets about twice as many yards when he touches the ball.

The thing to look at is their number of carries. If you evened out the amount of carries between Cook, Duke & Yearby - it would look like this:


Cook (Soph & Jr.) - 217 att - 2,328 yds - 10.7 ypc - 30 td's
Duke (Senior year) - 208 att - 2,087 yds - 10 ypc - 29 td's
Yearby (Junior year) - 212 att - 1,448 yds - 6.8 ypc - 20 td's


Cook vs. Duke - 9 more atts, 250 more yds, 1 more TD's
Cook vs. Yearby - 5 more atts, 900 more yds, 10 more TD's

I can't believe you put two of Cook's years to compare to one of Dukes and Yearbys.....not very logical and that puts outside factors like oline, schedule, and other things into play. Based off junior campaign alone, Cook was better. Yearby was better his soph year tho, and Sony was a straight beast his freshman year before the acl injury. Ill wait till the end of all their senior years to decide who's the TopDawg of these three Alphas

 

[bshaw28]

If you want to argue stats, Cook wins in a runaway. Cooks stats are actually better than Duke's, and both are way ahead of Yearby.

You can argue you like Yearby's ability & style better, that's fine (although I would disagree). But if you try and use stats, you're gonna lose your argument. The stats show Cook gets about twice as many yards when he touches the ball.

The thing to look at is their number of carries. If you evened out the amount of carries between Cook, Duke & Yearby - it would look like this:


Cook (Soph & Jr.) - 217 att - 2,328 yds - 10.7 ypc - 30 td's
Duke (Senior year) - 208 att - 2,087 yds - 10 ypc - 29 td's
Yearby (Junior year) - 212 att - 1,448 yds - 6.8 ypc - 20 td's


Cook vs. Duke - 9 more atts, 250 more yds, 1 more TD's
Cook vs. Yearby - 5 more atts, 900 more yds, 10 more TD's

I can't believe you put two of Cook's years to compare to one of Dukes and Yearbys.....not very logical and that puts outside factors like oline, schedule, and other things into play. Based off junior campaign alone, Cook was better. Yearby was better his soph year tho, and Sony was a straight beast his freshman year before the acl injury. Ill wait till the end of all their senior years to decide who's the TopDawg of these three Alphas

The point was to see each of their production with the same amount of carries, that's why I had to combine Soph. & Jr. years. It made it an even playing field.

There are no outside factors when comparing Cook & Yearby - they play on the same team. Yearby was pretty similar his Soph year, he just had 80 more carries. But if you want to use Yearby's Soph year:

Cook (Soph & Jr.) - 217 att - 2,328 yds - 10.7 ypc - 30 td's
Yearby (Soph year) - 283 att - 2,160 yds - 7.6 ypc - 24 td's

Who people feel the best RB is is definitely up for debate. But don't use stats to argue against Cook, because it's Him & Duke way out in front of anyone else in this thread.

To really put this point to rest - just look at the stats skyman posted. Now against top competition, look at Cooks ypc vs. Yearby's ypc.

Booker T.
Cook - 12.3
Yearby - 4.9
Manatee
Cook - 11.9
Yearby - 6.3
Columbus
Cook - 17.4
Yearby - 5.5
Homestead
Cook - 10
Yearby - 7.6
Carol City
Cook - 14.3
Yearby - 7.1
Northwestern Round 1
Cook - 5.5
Yearby - 1
Playoffs
Northwestern Round 2
Cook - 12.3
Yearby - 5.1
Naples
Cook - 17.2
Yearby - 5.8
Gainesville
Cook - 4.9
Yearby - 5.4

Cook averages more than Yearby in 8 of 9 of these games
Cook averaged more than his season average (11.4) in 6 of 9 of these games.
Yearby averaged more than his season average (6.8) in 2 of 9 of these games.

 

[killa1storm]

Really hard to project because different players go different ways plus hard to rank a soph vs. a freshman in college, but....


Its the offseason so lets have fun, also having seen all these cats play last year why not...

My ranking based on if I was a college coach who I would want (duke is obviously #1 because he is the only proven commodity on list)

Duke
Cook
Collins
Sony
Scarlett
Yearby

I dont know how some can sell Cook short, dude literally carried his loaded team some games even with the limited carries. Sony is definitely a weight room warrior and physical freak but when it came time to put up he didnt do it, I wont hold it against him because I know the injury he is coming off but I liked Cook better with regards o junior campaign. Sony should have a tougher schedule this year so it will be interesting to see how he plays against stiff comp. Also these ranking will be different because we all have different preferences in a back.

Yearby outplayed Cook against good comp. Reason being Cook needs big holes opened up for him but Yearby has the wiggle and strength to squeeze thru tighter spaces.

This list shows you don't know what you're talking about.

Sooo reading this statement again and ignoring how ridiculous it is (they run behind the same oline, they arent opening larger holes for Cook than Yearby)

Lets take a look at the stats, I would say "against good comp" leaves alot of room for interpretation however Central played a tough schedule and they have a few games to pick, I choose 6 regular season against top comp that most would agree (Booker T., Manatee, Columbus, Homestead, Carol City and Northwestern) and their tough games in their playoff run.


Booker T.



Cook (also INT For TD)
Att. yds. Avg Td
12 147 12.3 1



Yearby (also played qb 2nd half, threw a TD)
att yds Avg. Td
15 73 4.9 2


Manatee

Cook
Att Yrd Avg. Td
8 95 11.9 0
rec.
1 50 50 1


Yearby
Att Yrd Avg TD
22 138 6.3 2


Columbus

Cook
Att Yds Avg. TD
9 157 17.4 2
Rec.
2 44 22.0 0


Yearby
Att Yds Avg Td
17 94 5.5 1




Homestead


Cook
Att Yds Avg. TD
11 110 10.0 2

Rec.
1 9 9 0



Yearby
Att Yds Avg. TD
14 107 7.6 1

Rec
1 3 3 0





Carol City

Cook

Att Yds Avg TD
12 172 14.3 3


Yearby
Att Yds Avg TD
24 170 7.1 2




Northwestern Round 1


Cook
Att Yds Avg. TD
13 72 5.5 0



Yearby (did throw a td)

Att Yds Avg TD
20 20 1.0 1





Playoffs

Northwestern Round 2


Cook (also block kick)
Att Yds Avg. TD
10 123 12.3 3


Yearby
Att Yds Avg. TD
17 87 5.1 1



Naples

Cook
Att Yds Avg TD
9 155 17.2 3
Rec.
1 78 78 1


Yearby

Att Yds Avg TD
17 98 5.8 2






Gainesville


Cook
Att Yds Avg TD
16 79 4.9 2

Rec.
2 47 23.5 0



Yearby
Att Yds Avg TD
23 125 5.4 2



After doing this, I want to make clear Im a fan of both guys and think both are reallllly good players but when you have people saying you dont know what you are talking about and they just spout stuff off you have to bring facts before you just say stuff. Either way, its all about preference but I didnt say anyones list was better over the other. Hopefully this can spark some healthy debate. Or we can break down stats by how big the holes were for each runner.......

You're not saying much of anything so just go ahead and listen while I school you...

Look at your own stats. The most important one is # of carries.... where Yearby gets twice as many as Cook.

Being a casual fan, you probably don't know why that stat matters, so I'll tell you. It means that his coach trusts him more than the other guy. Plain and simple. And who knows these two better than their HS coach? It means opposing defenses are gameplanning for Yearby, and Cook busts in every now and then as the #2 in the 1, 2, punch combo of Yearby and Cook.

Cook is the Robin to Yearby's Batman.

Another telling stat is who got the carries in the first half, and who got the carries in garbage time.

Cook is your typical speedy guy who isn't that shifty, but once a defense is beaten down and giving up gaping holes, his speed will beat you.

Now, I'm done discussing this.

Reason? Because Sony is faster than Cook, and Cook's speed is his best attribute. It's clear as ice that Sony is more talented than Cook, and if you don't see that, you're in denial.

If you're in denial, that's fine. I feel your pain man. Sony going to UGA ******* sucks, I know it. The meltdown is going to be epic, but that can't be helped.

Sony is a once in a generation type athlete to come out of South Florida. It is what it is - I don't really do denial.

But go ahead and tell yourself that Cook is on the same level as Sony... who you've been watching and waiting for since 8th ******* grade.

lol fuggin ridiculous.

you realize cook played both ways right? as well as returned kicks? that's why he got less carries than yearby, he was moved all over the field including playing the slot. they're all great backs but you downplaying cook is laughable. i bet your opinion would be different if he was committed to miami.

 

[CaneSuger]

If you want to argue stats, Cook wins in a runaway. Cooks stats are actually better than Duke's, and both are way ahead of Yearby.

You can argue you like Yearby's ability & style better, that's fine (although I would disagree). But if you try and use stats, you're gonna lose your argument. The stats show Cook gets about twice as many yards when he touches the ball.

The thing to look at is their number of carries. If you evened out the amount of carries between Cook, Duke & Yearby - it would look like this:


Cook (Soph & Jr.) - 217 att - 2,328 yds - 10.7 ypc - 30 td's
Duke (Senior year) - 208 att - 2,087 yds - 10 ypc - 29 td's
Yearby (Junior year) - 212 att - 1,448 yds - 6.8 ypc - 20 td's


Cook vs. Duke - 9 more atts, 250 more yds, 1 more TD's
Cook vs. Yearby - 5 more atts, 900 more yds, 10 more TD's

LOL you added Cook's sophomore and junior years together.

 

[CaneSuger]

Really hard to project because different players go different ways plus hard to rank a soph vs. a freshman in college, but....


Its the offseason so lets have fun, also having seen all these cats play last year why not...

My ranking based on if I was a college coach who I would want (duke is obviously #1 because he is the only proven commodity on list)

Duke
Cook
Collins
Sony
Scarlett
Yearby

I dont know how some can sell Cook short, dude literally carried his loaded team some games even with the limited carries. Sony is definitely a weight room warrior and physical freak but when it came time to put up he didnt do it, I wont hold it against him because I know the injury he is coming off but I liked Cook better with regards o junior campaign. Sony should have a tougher schedule this year so it will be interesting to see how he plays against stiff comp. Also these ranking will be different because we all have different preferences in a back.

Yearby outplayed Cook against good comp. Reason being Cook needs big holes opened up for him but Yearby has the wiggle and strength to squeeze thru tighter spaces.

This list shows you don't know what you're talking about.

Sooo reading this statement again and ignoring how ridiculous it is (they run behind the same oline, they arent opening larger holes for Cook than Yearby)

Lets take a look at the stats, I would say "against good comp" leaves alot of room for interpretation however Central played a tough schedule and they have a few games to pick, I choose 6 regular season against top comp that most would agree (Booker T., Manatee, Columbus, Homestead, Carol City and Northwestern) and their tough games in their playoff run.


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After doing this, I want to make clear Im a fan of both guys and think both are reallllly good players but when you have people saying you dont know what you are talking about and they just spout stuff off you have to bring facts before you just say stuff. Either way, its all about preference but I didnt say anyones list was better over the other. Hopefully this can spark some healthy debate. Or we can break down stats by how big the holes were for each runner.......

You're not saying much of anything so just go ahead and listen while I school you...

Look at your own stats. The most important one is # of carries.... where Yearby gets twice as many as Cook.

Being a casual fan, you probably don't know why that stat matters, so I'll tell you. It means that his coach trusts him more than the other guy. Plain and simple. And who knows these two better than their HS coach? It means opposing defenses are gameplanning for Yearby, and Cook busts in every now and then as the #2 in the 1, 2, punch combo of Yearby and Cook.

Cook is the Robin to Yearby's Batman.

Another telling stat is who got the carries in the first half, and who got the carries in garbage time.

Cook is your typical speedy guy who isn't that shifty, but once a defense is beaten down and giving up gaping holes, his speed will beat you.

Now, I'm done discussing this.

Reason? Because Sony is faster than Cook, and Cook's speed is his best attribute. It's clear as ice that Sony is more talented than Cook, and if you don't see that, you're in denial.

If you're in denial, that's fine. I feel your pain man. Sony going to UGA ****ing sucks, I know it. The meltdown is going to be epic, but that can't be helped.

Sony is a once in a generation type athlete to come out of South Florida. It is what it is - I don't really do denial.

But go ahead and tell yourself that Cook is on the same level as Sony... who you've been watching and waiting for since 8th ****ing grade.

lol fuggin ridiculous.

you realize cook played both ways right? as well as returned kicks? that's why he got less carries than yearby, he was moved all over the field including playing the slot. they're all great backs but you downplaying cook is laughable. i bet your opinion would be different if he was committed to miami.

Probably because Cook is a good athlete. We have a guy on the Canes who gets moved around a lot, his name is Dallas Crawford. Coaches do it because they want him on the field, but he's not quite as good a RB as Duke Johnson.

Same with Cook and Yearby. Yearby is the better RB, but Cook is a great athlete and you want him on the field.

Sony is better than both Yearby and Cook.