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How often are those inside run plays an RPO that Beck could pull and throw quick slants over the middle? I feel like Cam did that a lot and it kept the defense honest and made the running game more effective.

Is it a matter of Dawson not trusting Beck to make that read and throw or maybe Beck doesn't trust himself?

Either way, the way Beck looked today gave me TVD flashbacks. We're lucky Stanford dropped that early INT or who knows what happens to Beck afterwards. If we get this version of Beck the rest of the year we'll lose 2 or 3 more games.
 
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k9cane said:

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Ok, a win is a win. Forget the score, Stanford was never going to win this game. Andrew Luck was on the sideline, but he wasn't walking through that door, neither was Toby Gerhart or Richard Sherman

But I hope Mario Cristobal realizes that when you slow the pace against inferior foes, you actually open the window to get upset. When you have the superior team, you want MORE plays, not less. That didn't happen tonight, but that's not the point.

Sometimes it's not the result but the process. Instead of 'establishing the run', how bout 'establishing points' and allow your team to play from ahead? And then run the ball late and let your pass rushers pin their ears back.

Don't listen to me, I'm just a crouching Tiger who is a fan. But that was the base philosophy of Bill Walsh every gameAs for the offense, my view is that if you run more spread sets(clear up some of the congestion in the box) and throw more on early downs, you can see a more free-flowing unit.It's good to see this team dominate the second half and pull away late. I hope that it carries over into Dallas (I'll be there) vs SMU.
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I’ve been making this argument for months

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X's and O's Thread 'Why Are We Playing In a Phonebooth So Often?'

Given the speed and skills of our receivers, why are we playing in a phonebooth so often? the following two plays were very early in the game with the score zero zero in both games and both on first and 10.

i understand that they are a million factors that influence the way we are lined up from game to game and play to play, but the idea still rings through. under dawson, we are playing in a phonebooth often.



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mossmadness said:
Forget everything else.
That type of pound it, 5 rushing TDs, control the clock offense, is Mario’s dream offense.

I hate it. But if you’re going to run it, you need a Sellers at QB. Or even CJ Bailey.

You need a QB that can pull it and run on read option plays. That can pull it on drop backs and get you 3 to 5 yards.

The style of play struggles without an additional runner on the field to keep the defense honest and keep the methodical march moving.

That 4th and 1 stop is wide open for a QB to keep it and take it outside. That’s the difference between an offense that probably is 30-ish in the analytics, and 15-ish.
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Yeah, give me Sellers if we can’t find a guy that’s surgical from the pocket like Cam Ward.
 
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deezydinh said:
Whoever allowed those jerseys to happen should be waterboarded. Prob had to go for short stuff cuz Beck couldn’t see them down field
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Yes but….their QB couldn’t see our guys either. Hence the interceptions.

Chess not checkers.

Seriously those were by far the ugliest thing we have ever worn. Hated them on the tweet and yet they were actually much worse on TV
 
DMoney said:
Let’s not forget last year’s offense. It scored a million points and was still physically dominant. That’s the ideal but we are far away for a few reasons. Need to build on the second half.

I’d like to see more tempo. Beck is a quick operator by nature.
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Can Ward was our offensive philosophy last year

This year we’ve gone back to Mario/Mirabal ball and their conservative, boring approach

To your point, open it up. We look a lot better when we do, get play makers in space. If Mario continues to try and muscle games up the middle we will lose one or two more and not make the playoffs
 
Highline17 said:
3 thoughts: I loved seeing the team actually respond after halftime, DJ Leek is a MAJOR upgrade, I loved seeing Dylan Day on the opposing sideline talking trash after every special teams coverage.
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Hetherman is really really good. Made adjustments against Louisville and did the same this game.

His unit dominated the second half
 
nvlahos said:
Can Ward was our offensive philosophy last year

This year we’ve gone back to Mario/Mirabal ball and their conservative, boring approach

To your point, open it up. We look a lot better when we do, get play makers in space. If Mario continues to try and muscle games up the middle we will lose one or two more and not make the playoffs
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The worst part is we force this style of muscle play instead of trying to get points. We aren’t even good at it as our running game has been mediocre. This offense should be and could be much better.

According to ChatGPT, in 2024, Miami finished 31st nationally in rushing offense (yards per game) in the 2024 season, averaging 188.9 rush yards per game (2,456 total yards over 13 games) at 443 attempts averaging 5.67 yards. Evidently, Cam Ward’s presence was a major influence in that success and spreading the field more helped us. Can you imagine how much better that running game would have been had it ran a better scheme, as well? lol.

This season, it is an entirely different offense (more bunched and garbage TE’s) and the running philosophy is hurting us. Look what happen when we went 4 WR set. Successfully moved the ball and put up points. Stanford had given up because their offense is trash and they were exhausted. That’s not gonna happen to most teams we play.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Stanford is truly awful, so let’s not go nuts here, but this defense is one of the best in America. That was a stat padding game, and we haven’t had many (any?) of those in terms of FBS games. I expect Miami will be in the Top 10 in basically every category defensively when the numbers run tomorrow.

But we continue to have a big problem on the other side of the ball, and after 7 games, you gotta think you are who you are. If we win the next 5, it’s likely going to be with defense and hopefully some timely offense. It’s just a pedestrian operation on that side, which is insane to think this is who we are after what we saw last year. It’s basically a total 180.

Also, god bless Malachi Toney. I’m running out of adjectives for him. We have probably the best freshman in the history of the program and we’re still very meh on offense. Unacceptable from Mario and Dawson.

Anyway, I’m not gonna kick my dog after winning a game 42-7. As bad as the first half was, they play 60 minute games for a reason. All 60 matter. The final 30 were obviously a lot cooler than the first. But holy **** we need to do something on offense to start games. We play SMU, and then two awful football teams after that. Find a way to score next week and we *should* be 9-1 headed to Blacksburg. But good lord please figure out a way to score some points early in that game next week
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I feel terrible. My dog is in a coma from the first quarter. Vet says she will recover though
 
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Ok, a win is a win. Forget the score, Stanford was never going to win this game. Andrew Luck was on the sideline, but he wasn't walking through that door, neither was Toby Gerhart or Richard Sherman

But I hope Mario Cristobal realizes that when you slow the pace against inferior foes, you actually open the window to get upset. When you have the superior team, you want MORE plays, not less. That didn't happen tonight, but that's not the point.

Sometimes it's not the result but the process. Instead of 'establishing the run', how bout 'establishing points' and allow your team to play from ahead? And then run the ball late and let your pass rushers pin their ears back.

Don't listen to me, I'm just a crouching Tiger who is a fan. But that was the base philosophy of Bill Walsh every gameAs for the offense, my view is that if you run more spread sets(clear up some of the congestion in the box) and throw more on early downs, you can see a more free-flowing unit.It's good to see this team dominate the second half and pull away late. I hope that it carries over into Dallas (I'll be there) vs SMU.
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1-0 next week against SMU
 
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I know the score ended up looking good at the end, but after reflecting on the game, I don't feel any better about the offense.

The offense really only sustained 3 drives that ended in TDs against Stanford. 3 of the other ones were gifts from INTs or PRs that started well inside plus territory..and we actually came away with ZERO points TWICE inside of their 25 yard line.

We only averages 4.5ypc and 6.8ypa against a very overmatched and depleted Stanford team that we dominated time of possession. We had 74 plays to their 53 plays. So those numbers were boosted significantly by the 4th quarter with their defense worn down and the game already out of hand..when the game was competitive, those numbers were much worse.

Hopefully Dawson/Mario/Mirabel (I'm not sure who's in charge of the offense) can go back to the drawing board and find an offense and rhythms that works for Beck and rebuilds his confidence because we'll lose 2 or 3 more games with the Beck and offense that showed up yesterday.
 
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