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Winning the ACC was nice and a huge accomplishment. UNC was bad. Duke was having a bad defensive year, though still better than last year. We've always given Duke fits, even with Haith. We did not reach the Elite 8.

Anyways, basketball is a whole different animal than football. I also like how you like to leave out the fact that we went 17-16 last year. Wonder why??? Do you also remember when we were #7 last year and undefeated before losing half of the team due to injuries? You all credit Duke with carrying the team this year and being a difference maker, but discredit the impact his injuries and everyone else's had on the season last year. Duke stays healthy and Miami goes 10-2 or 11-1.

Also, Coach L never had to deal with a lack of depth and transfer issues. Golden has. Sure, lack of depth is his fault and from now on with how long his tenure has been will be solely on him for the rest of his time here, but Al did not inherit a team full of greatness. He had Stephen Morris as a QB. I know you all like to be nostalgic on here and act like every team we've ever had had as much NFL talent as we did in 01, it just wasn't utilized properly. I've got some news for you all. Miami has not had a roster that has been laden with top talent at every position for years now. However, since Golden's arrival the roster has become greater and greater and is finally beginning to get deeper.

That means we need to start seeing progress. If you look at the record exclusively, you'd think there has not been progress. If you actually look at the team and watch the games it becomes undeniable that the team that started off 3-3 would get hammered by the team that has been playing since. If Golden continues to have his teams play as smart and efficient as they have been lately, then we'll get where we want to be.

It just seems like you all will never ever be satisfied. Face the facts. Miami has played their best football in a decade the last 6-7 weeks now. They destroyed 3 teams and then almost beat what is arguably the best team in the nation despite lacking in depth and a true freshman QB who was just plain bad in the 2nd half. They were a few key plays away from beating that team. If Miami wins out including the bowl game and continues to play like they have been, then there is no way they do not get a top 20 preseason ranking. They also will have everyone that is notable at home except for FSU. And if we assume that Golden will from now on keep the team playing like they have been and improving every week, there is no reason Miami should not get 10 wins at the least next year.

I know what will happen though. We'll get a topic full of gifs that add nothing to the conversation. We'll get posts full of insults, but no real arguments other than saying someone is wrong. We'll get a bunch of people saying are we supposed to ignore the last 3.5 years because we are finally playing better. It's the same cycle on this board over and over. You'll get some good conversations here and there, but a big circle of posters on here love making it near impossible for any topic to actually stay on course because it constantly turns into "slurper" hate fests and constant insulting and constant "you are going off topic", "what are you trying to even say", etc. etc. when everyone can understand what is being said clearly except for the "mopers".

So before I end this post I will try and make it very simple for you all to read because I know there are some on here that will try to twist every single word to the best of their ability.

Golden is not perfect and I am not saying he has proven to be that great of a coach. However, his situation is not as great as you all make it out to be. Depth is a huge issue. It is one he is actually improving on. Another issue was teams never getting better as the years went on. They are now. I am not happy it took 3 seasons and 5-6 games for Golden to finally start hitting his stride, but I am happy he is now. It means nothing if we collapse to end the year. But it could be huge if we win out and go 9-4 in the same fashion we've been playing the latter half of the season because it will vividly show that the team and coaches have all grown and improved this season and it will be the first true sign of a change in the program since before even Coker got hired. Shannon never had a defining moment where the team played like they have been recently. Coker got worse and worse. Golden showed minimal improvement and was setback from some injuries, but then the team finally started to look like something we have not seen in a long long time. That is why some of us have optimism and it is not wrong to either because it has lasted for 2 months now and has become consistent enough that it is a true trait of the coaches and the team and that is something that typically carries on with a coach until his career is over.

Lots of bs in this post.. First off Golden inherited the most talented/ experinced team in the coastal **** even the whole acc and went 5-6 vs div 1 teams. His loss to Boston collge is probably one of the worse losses in modern miami history. If you don't think Miami had talent go look at Miami's roster and guys that made NFL teams and compare it to Boston college, Maryland and those other sorry *** teams he lost too and see for yourself.

And btw, Miami's performnce vs 11-2 gt is better than anything golden has put forth to date. In fact his 4 game opening stretch is better than anything golden has put together.

Your optimism for this coach is blind as he still hasn't beat anyone of note and his playing fsu close has been matched by plenty of teams this year despite the fact that he had 2 weeks to prepare.
 
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Amazing that Miami "fans" have to minimize the accomplishments of one Miami coach to excuse another Miami coach. Which really begs the question, are they actually Miami fans or NOT?
 
Lmao this dude just tried to discredit Coach L.

He went .500 the year after he lost 9/12 players from his team? Oh God no! You'd be throwing Golden a parade. Golden beat two .500 teams and you've got 24-hr security watching you to make sure you don't break into his house and suck his dlck. Golden can't even win the Coastal despite having the best recruiting classes out of every team in that division. You're a faqq0t for trying to discredit Coach L's accomplishments, plain and simple.

And lmfao at "depth issues" in his 4th season. What a great recruiter if so. Worst part, no team is shuffling in 22 guys on each unit. We've had ZERO major injuries. Depth is NO problem.

And LMMFAO him saying Duke staying healthy would have made Miami 12-1 last year. Bltch, he's healthy and having the best year of his life with a better QB and twice as good of a defense AND WE'RE 6-4!! Did your mama used to put you in the dryer?


How bout this: take all that bullshlt you posted, print it out, slather it up REAL nice, turn that sumbltch sideways, and STICK IT STRAIGHT UP YOUR CANDY ***!!!

We have 10 players remaining from the 2011 class. Of the 33 in the 2012 class, 18 remain. Of our 21 seniors, 8 are walk-ons. Where is the depth? Any depth we have right now is freshmen. Miami has not had depth since Coker's last couple of years. He didn't field deep teams. Shannon never fielded deep teams. Golden hasn't either, but is actually improving on it and next year will be the best yet and at the rate he is improving, we'll finally be matching just about anyone in the department.

And let's look at this year. I already stated we are 6-4. I also stated the evidence is as clear as day that the team is playing so much better now that the team that started the year off. Go back and look at the years under Shannon, or even Coker's last couple years when they were actually his teams. Or even Golden's previous years here. We never dominated anyone that wasn't a Florida A&M. After going through some growing pains to start the year, the team showed notable signs of growth everywhere and we slaughtered 3 straight FBS teams. No matter how average they are, that is not something we've done in over 10 years. We also stuck right there with the best team in the nation(and a team with a pulse which you all like to say) and were a few fumbles, missed throws, and dropped TD passes away from beating. One or two plays go our way instead and we are sitting here praising Golden and the team.

We went from struggling to win consistently against average teams and getting run off the field against good teams to dominating average teams and competing the with elite. There is obvious growth. A big part of that is Kaaya and the defense playing smarter and following assignments. Go back and watch the Nebraska game. The defense played out of their minds in the worst way possible. The defense either did not understand the scheme or forgot how to play football. We never recorded a TFL despite having a number of plays where we hit Abdullah in the backfield. That We had plenty of guys freelance and not play to their assignment. The coaches also were average that game. They didn't match personnel at all times and had some questionable alignments at times. Kaaya also thought you won on the road by throwing 2 interceptions and Duke though it was okay to fumble the ball and have it be taken back for 7 when we were in the middle of a drive in their territory about to take the lead.

I am not excusing the coaches of their mistakes because they have made plenty. The players have too though. In all of the losses Kaaya did not play sound football all game. Against GT he turned it over twice in the redzone, against UL he looked like a true freshman when given chances. Against Nebraska he threw 2 costly picks. Against FSU he forgot that you play 2 halves and was missing guys left and right all 2nd half. The defense forgot their assignments and how to tackle in the Nebraska and GT losses. The players made plenty of mistakes that cost them the FSU game. The coaches had them in position to succeed a number of times, but Berrios dropped a TD that could have really put the pressure on. Dobard and Walford forgot you have to hold onto the ball. Kaaya though he would start being inaccurate in the 2nd half. The defense though all you had to do was make tackle attempts at the LOS, not finish the tackle off. Face it, there were plenty of times Cook was hit behind or right at the LOS and was able to get 6+ yards. The scheme was set up to where we had the chance to shut down the runs over and over, guys like McCord didn't execute and make tackles. The coaches can only do so much.

Anyways, you all probably won't read this either. The fact is the team is playing better than they have in a long time, it's very clear, and it's been long enough and consistent enough to not be a fluke. If this is what is the new standard under Golden, then the future is a lot brighter than what it was when we fell to 3-3.
Depth is an Al Golden problem. When you lose 35 of 70 players you will run into problems. Now **** you for trying to minimize what Coach L has done for Miami basketball.

I didn't minimize anything. I clearly stated facts. We did not reach the Elite 8. UNC was bad. Duke was also bad compared to their typical standards and their defense was nothing like the average Duke defense. What we did do was win the conference in the regular season and tournament and made it to the sweet 16. Those are huge accomplishments. Coach L is a really good coach and I love the job he has done and wish he would be here forever. I can appreciate what he has done and love his doing, but also be realistic at the same time. We'll always have potential to be a threat in the ACC with coach L around and we'll have more tournament runs with him as well.

Amazing that Miami "fans" have to minimize the accomplishments of one Miami coach to excuse another Miami coach. Which really begs the question, are they actually Miami fans or NOT?
 
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Only the OSU win and the Miami win can really be counted here. Kentucky finished the season unranked and lost to Robert Morris in the 1st round. Louisville showed they were the better team. However the Miami and OSU games really have no fault.

But I don't know why we are arguing this because I never once said Duke was bad or that Coach L did a bad job.

So the Louisville win doesn't count because they won the national championship? Are you retarded?

I never said that. All I implied was the UL proved who was the better team by not only beating Duke, but also winning the title. Duke had a nice win over them during the year, but when it matters we saw who was the better team.

That's exactly what you said.

Take it how you want. Perhaps it was poorly worded. Duke was not better than UL.

Your right..they were only good enough to beat them.
 
I think beating a team 5 games into the season by a few points does not hold as much weight compared to getting smoked in the tournament by the same team. Duke was a good win, but at the time of the game they were not a healthy team and Miami took advantage of that. When Duke was healthy Miami could not beat them.

Stop changing the subject. What we are discussing has nothing to do with Miami trading home victories with Duke. Are you standing by what you said (that an impressive win for Duke over Louisville cannot be counted when determining whether Duke was a great win for UM) or no?

Miami being able to beat Duke when they are not healthy, but losing to them when they are healthy pretty much tells the story does it not? It was a good win for them at home, I do not deny that.

So you can't answer a simple yes or no question. You're a scatterbrained mess. Al you needed was to type YES or NO. But you couldn't do that. You don't even get what we are talking about right now.

By the way, Miami crushed Duke at home, and then barely lost to them on the road.

Barely lost... still lost. Don't get your point here. Explain why barely losing is so important.

I've seen you pump up Miami barley losing to fsu last week as some monumental accomplishment now it's not? Lmao
 
Would +rep the OP if I knew how on tapatalk. Coach L is the truth. Folden is a thief. He should give half his salary to Coach L out of respect
 
I'm not buying that we don't have enough depth to win the worst division in major college football. What we do have is a perfect storm of recruiting failures and game day incompetence. Canes21 talks about a lack of depth and transfer issues. Whose fault is that? Who brought in the Danny Dillards, Larry Hopes, and Jacoby Briscoes of the world? And if you're going to mention transfers, it's worth noting where the guys who left ended up. Other than Gionni Paul, an underachiever here who is now a standout at a top 25 program in a better conference (more on that in a bit), who's playing major D1 ball? When guys are leaving your program and ending up at Bethune-Cookman, odds are they weren't Miami caliber players to begin with.

The other issue is too many of the Miami caliber players they have gotten aren't developing the way they should be. For every standout there's at least one guy who should be doing more, and probably would be doing more elsewhere. You'd have a hard time convincing me that Jamal Carter wouldn't have been better off at LSU, or that Tracy Howard wouldn't have become a better player at UF or FSU. I can't say I'm surprised that Paul started living up to his potential when he got around good coaches.

**** Waldo, where are Stacy Coley and Herb Waters? Why haven't we been able to find an impact D-Lineman for five years? I need answers, man.
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how in the ******* ****, can you seriously compare coaches of two DIFFERENT SPORTS?! comparing golden with butch or whoever else is fine, but basketball to football. talk about grasping at straws. a team with a max of 15 players with only 5 on the court, to a team with 100+, sure...
 
Stop changing the subject. What we are discussing has nothing to do with Miami trading home victories with Duke. Are you standing by what you said (that an impressive win for Duke over Louisville cannot be counted when determining whether Duke was a great win for UM) or no?

Miami being able to beat Duke when they are not healthy, but losing to them when they are healthy pretty much tells the story does it not? It was a good win for them at home, I do not deny that.

So you can't answer a simple yes or no question. You're a scatterbrained mess. Al you needed was to type YES or NO. But you couldn't do that. You don't even get what we are talking about right now.

By the way, Miami crushed Duke at home, and then barely lost to them on the road.

Barely lost... still lost. Don't get your point here. Explain why barely losing is so important.

I've seen you pump up Miami barley losing to fsu last week as some monumental accomplishment now it's not? Lmao

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how in the ******* ****, can you seriously compare coaches of two DIFFERENT SPORTS?! comparing golden with butch or whoever else is fine, but basketball to football. talk about grasping at straws. a team with a max of 15 players with only 5 on the court, to a team with 100+, sure...

Are you fine with Miami being a basketball school?
 
how in the ******* ****, can you seriously compare coaches of two DIFFERENT SPORTS?! comparing golden with butch or whoever else is fine, but basketball to football. talk about grasping at straws. a team with a max of 15 players with only 5 on the court, to a team with 100+, sure...

HOW THE **** CAN ANYONE COMPARE GOLDEN WITH A CEO???
 
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