Question regarding early enrollees

[DMoney]

Anybody know the first day they can sign binding LOIs?

 

[MessiahChild]

Early Enrollees don't sign LOIs (Only Jucos). Just financial aids agreements. They can sign as early as August 1st of their senior year. All the new rule does is make their commitments more than a verbal agreement but still not as strong as a LOIs. There also a loophole with the new rule that its only a matter of time before coaches take advantage of it.

 

[Consigliere]

Early Enrollees don't sign LOIs (Only Jucos). Just financial aids agreements. They can sign as early as August 1st of their senior year. All the new rule does is make their commitments more than a verbal agreement but still not as strong as a LOIs. There also a loophole with the new rule that its only a matter of time before coaches take advantage of it.

What he said

 

[Canemang]

Early Enrollees don't sign LOIs (Only Jucos). Just financial aids agreements. They can sign as early as August 1st of their senior year. All the new rule does is make their commitments more than a verbal agreement but still not as strong as a LOIs. There also a loophole with the new rule that its only a matter of time before coaches take advantage of it.

What's the loophole?

 

[datdude81]

Early Enrollees don't sign LOIs (Only Jucos). Just financial aids agreements. They can sign as early as August 1st of their senior year. All the new rule does is make their commitments more than a verbal agreement but still not as strong as a LOIs. There also a loophole with the new rule that its only a matter of time before coaches take advantage of it.

What's the loophole?

I can take my Financial Aid any where that is more or less related to the school and government
but a LOI operates as a binding contract...i.e. legal agreement which it is hard to get out of

 

[miamimike]

I think if I'm not mistaken that $ is asking student athletes like Berrios who is enrolling in January when can they actually sign their LOI?

 

[MessiahChild]

Early Enrollees don't sign LOIs (Only Jucos). Just financial aids agreements. They can sign as early as August 1st of their senior year. All the new rule does is make their commitments more than a verbal agreement but still not as strong as a LOIs. There also a loophole with the new rule that its only a matter of time before coaches take advantage of it.

What's the loophole?

I can take my Financial Aid any where that is more or less related to the school and government
but a LOI operates as a binding contract...i.e. legal agreement which it is hard to get out of

John Infante explains it better:

The rules states "The academic and membership affairs staff determined that a prospective student-athlete who intends to graduate from high school midyear and enroll at a member institution midyear during the same academic year (e.g., spring semester) may sign an institutional financial aid agreement on or after August 1 of his or her senior year, provided the institution issuing the financial aid agreement establishes, prior to issuing the agreement, that the prospective student-athlete is enrolled in all coursework necessary to graduate from high school at midyear."

The interp only requires that the prospect intend to graduate at midyear and that the institution confirms the prospect is enrolled in the classes required to graduate at midyear. It says nothing about the prospect actually graduating or actually completing those classes. So in theory, a coach could encourage his entire recruiting class to enroll in extra courses so they are on track to graduate early. The prospects could then sign in August, which allows the coaching staff to take advantage of unlimited communication and publicity. If the prospects then drop the courses or fail them, they can still sign NLIs in February. Even if the financial aid agreement is invalidated, the institution still bought itself a major recruiting advantage with unlimited communication and the ability to publicize their recruitment of the prospect.

 

[5XNC]

I think u guys are answering the wrong question.

 

[MessiahChild]

I think if I'm not mistaken that $ is asking student athletes like Berrios who is enrolling in January when can they actually sign their LOI?

I understood what $ was asking. But all the rules and regualtions on the NCAA websites in regards to early enrolles all have them signing financial aid agreements except for JUCOs. So maybe their financial aid agreements automatically gets converted to a LOI on signing day? Just me speculating.

 

[CANE1775]

I always thought that early enrollees never sign any binding LOI. I could be wrong, but that was my understanding. When they enroll, they become "bound."

 

[SFbayCane]

I always thought that early enrollees never sign any binding LOI. I could be wrong, but that was my understanding. When they enroll, they become "bound."

This is my understanding as well. The "contract" takes place when the kid matriculates. So if a kid comes in January, he is officially signed with a skool on the first day of classes, as they would have to redshirt and sit out a year in order to transfer.

I believe Greg Olson is the example D$ is looking for. Greg Olson graduated in December, enrolled at notre dame, played spring ball with the domers then transferred to UM, where he had to sit out a year. (if my rapidly aging memory is correct here)