QBs with the most to prove (TVD)

[NCCanefan]

I'm still very concerned that he has nobody to throw the ball to but I do think the improvement up front, the scheme, and the fact that he was SEVERELY humbled last year is going to result in far superior QB play.

I just hope someone steps up in the WR room.

Before he was injured, restrepo, was putting together a pretty good year. He obviously has good rapport with TVD. If Herrell can catch a couple so that his speed is a real threat, I think there will be lots of opportunity for restrepo and others.

 

[NCCanefan]

Put the pieces together.

Big offensive line, no QB depth (meaning Cristobal will need to make sure TVD isn't taking unnecessary hits), strong RB backfield, question marks at WR, and thin at DT. That tells me Cristobal is likely going to go with a low scoring, run heavy offense that chews up clock. We won't be able stop other teams from running so the best counter is to keep the opponents from touching the ball. This is just how the team is built. And honestly, I think this is the best strategy given the roster. It will be boring and painful to watch again, but this time UM will have more success with TOP and red zone opportunities due to the better OL.

Unfortunately, even though I think Cristobal can get 8 wins out of the team, the offense will be so uninspiring that we aren't going to find any top WRs and QBs that will be interested in UM.

There is no reason to believe we will be a run heavy offense. A little balance and an ability to run and get first downs on 3rd and 1 or 2 would be a nice change.

 

[NCCanefan]

I shared similar concerns, including whether / how he has responded to what I agree should have been a severe humbling, but question what the results will be. Both he and the WR are question marks until proven otherwise - and frankly that’s on game day… greentree kool aid just ain’t refreshing some of us this summer…

It's a $ year for tvd. Step up the prep, mental and physical, to get drafted and earn some coin. Fail to perform and probably on the road to nowhere.

 

[TheEye]

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I wanted zero preseason accolades or high expectations for this team. I want them to be underestimated and then over deliver so I can for once in my “real” adult life be truly happy at the end of the season

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Just rewatch last season.

 

[NCCanefan]

Beat Ohio's Miami, Bethune, Temple, Georgia Tech, UVA, Louisville, Boston College. Those are musts. Losing any of those would be reall depressing, and yes I'm very well of our history of losing games we "shouldn't" lose. But that's 7 wins. Then can you go 2-3 vs UNC, Clemson, FSU, NC State, and A&M? If you do, you're 9-3. 2 of those 5 are at home.

NC State's win total is 6.5 this year and they have the 7th best odds to win the ACC. Not some insurmountable task.
UNC's total is 8.5 with juice on the under. Longo is gone. Doable.
FSU, Clemson, A&M will all be tough, as we know. But even if we go 1-1 against the NC teams and 1-2 vs FSU/Clem/A&M, we should still be able to win 8 games, maybe 9. Anything less than 8 is flat out inexcusable, and yes I'm incredibly familiar with the roster.

$100 will win you $138 if we manage to win 8 or more. I think Vegas has us pegged just right at 7.5 wins.

 

[FuriousStyles]

Just rewatch last season.

No… I’ve suffered enough.

 

[caneworld]

He's the cover boy of the article by Bleacher Report.

Everything about this program currently should be on the hot seat... what clusterf0k..

 

[JamesQuall]

Put the pieces together.

Big offensive line, no QB depth (meaning Cristobal will need to make sure TVD isn't taking unnecessary hits), strong RB backfield, question marks at WR, and thin at DT. That tells me Cristobal is likely going to go with a low scoring, run heavy offense that chews up clock. We won't be able stop other teams from running so the best counter is to keep the opponents from touching the ball. This is just how the team is built. And honestly, I think this is the best strategy given the roster. It will be boring and painful to watch again, but this time UM will have more success with TOP and red zone opportunities due to the better OL.

Unfortunately, even though I think Cristobal can get 8 wins out of the team, the offense will be so uninspiring that we aren't going to find any top WRs and QBs that will be interested in UM.

I agree that there are still too many question marks on this team. And, without trying to start **** with you, I think you may be drinking too much mopium with this post.

It remains to be seen if Mario will let Dawson run his own offense, but I think you're making a leap in logic with your opinion on the offense. Saying we won't be able to stop the run is also a stretch.

You may end up being correct but at this point it's no more than an assumption. Let's see what happens with the 8&4 game and at least an ACC game or two before signing both of our new coordinator's death certificates.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

Colbie was ballin last year before injuries to him and TVD. X was hurt. We will be fine there. It was the play style that affected the WRs the most last year. The spacing and route concepts were fracking atrocious.

Lotta people responding to me with Colbie and I get it. He looked really good last year. But he was a complete unknown. Now people have film on him and will be game planning to stop him knowing he’s likely WR1 on the outside. That’s a whole different game. But supposedly he’s shed some weight and gotten faster. That’d be great. The ball skills he showcased last year were excellent. I hope you guys are right because we obviously desperately need him to be good.

 

[JamesQuall]

Beat Ohio's Miami, Bethune, Temple, Georgia Tech, UVA, Louisville, Boston College. Those are musts. Losing any of those would be reall depressing, and yes I'm very well of our history of losing games we "shouldn't" lose. But that's 7 wins. Then can you go 2-3 vs UNC, Clemson, FSU, NC State, and A&M? If you do, you're 9-3. 2 of those 5 are at home.

NC State's win total is 6.5 this year and they have the 7th best odds to win the ACC. Not some insurmountable task.
UNC's total is 8.5 with juice on the under. Longo is gone. Doable.
FSU, Clemson, A&M will all be tough, as we know. But even if we go 1-1 against the NC teams and 1-2 vs FSU/Clem/A&M, we should still be able to win 8 games, maybe 9. Anything less than 8 is flat out inexcusable, and yes I'm incredibly familiar with the roster.

It's a valid assumption and a reasonable post. However, I am done with trying to predict what this team will do this season. Miami Hurricane and Mario Cristobal have historically always been good to **** up at least one game they should not. Therefore, I'm in wait and see mode. The public catastrophe that was last year's performance (which while horrible also had a lot of bad luck) made me completely forego any and all koolaid.

 

[JamesQuall]

Lotta people responding to me with Colbie and I get it. He looked really good last year. But he was a complete unknown. Now people have film on him and will be game planning to stop him knowing he’s likely WR1 on the outside. That’s a whole different game. But supposedly he’s shed some weight and gotten faster. That’d be great. The ball skills he showcased last year were excellent. I hope you guys are right because we obviously desperately need him to be good.

I hope Colbie is a dude as well but was he really good? Or was he average or slightly above while the rest of our WR room looked like they were playing in slow motion in quicksand?

Again, wait and see mode.

 

[DTP]

I hope Colbie is a dude as well but was he really good? Or was he average or slightly above while the rest of our WR room looked like they were playing in slow motion in quicksand?

Again, wait and see mode.

Probably somewhere in the middle. He didn't get playing time last year until the 5th game of the year. Then he had a nice three game run with TVD until he got hurt in the Duke game. He played the best of a terrible group against UVA and then kind of fell off the rest of the year along with every other receiver when we stopped being able to complete forward passes. I don't think he was in great shape to start the season and he definitely wasn't supposed to end up being our top WR but with Restrepo missing a ton of time and George getting suspended, returning and then getting hurt, Mike Redding and Frank Ladson just weren't getting it done.

Is he a bum who only played because we have nobody else? No. Is he a freak of nature superstar waiting to break out? Probably not either. Was he rather productive considering he didn't play the first third of the season? Yeah. he caught 32 passes. Not a big deal until you consider in Josh Gattis' four years as an OC he's only had one receiver catch more than 40 passes in a season. Receivers, specifically outside receivers were usually option 3 4 or 5 in his scheme.

 

[Tad Footeball]

I shared similar concerns, including whether / how he has responded to what I agree should have been a severe humbling, but question what the results will be. Both he and the WR are question marks until proven otherwise - and frankly that’s on game day… greentree kool aid just ain’t refreshing some of us this summer…

My guess is if there actually was any "humbling" that it went away the moment Baga started bidding for his services and when he started to see some real improvement in his short game. Kid has made some giant progress with the lob wedge.

 

[mcnaire2004]

Just curious, what do you suggest get talked about in the offseason?!?! Apparently nothing at all.......cool

I don't know. I suppose I am not a fan of the same recycled article with the same points being released by a different publication, or often, the same publication over and over. I imagine shorts journalism won't improve until it is demanded.

Enjoy your circle-jerk

 

[Zombie-Cane]

I don't know. I suppose I am not a fan of the same recycled article with the same points being released by a different publication, or often, the same publication over and over. I imagine shorts journalism won't improve until it is demanded.

Enjoy your circle-jerk

 

[Memnon]

I'm much more Bullish this season on WR than I was last year.

A lot of yall really either completely underestimate or simply don't understand how much scheme plays into WR play. That was literally the crux of my many arguments I had with the Kool-Aid Brigade last offseason about the Gattless's Offense being much much harder for our WR's.

If Dawson is running even a semblance of what he did at Houston, the WR's will eat this year.

If Ty Harrell stays healthy & Shemar Kirk gets integrated into the system, TVD will have some weapons to distribute to & that will open up the Offense for the rest of the guys like Young, George, Restrepo, Nate & Rob.

Hopefully, the TE's are allowed to do more than block.

 

[Cribby]

I'm much more Bullish this season on WR than I was last year.

A lot of yall really either completely underestimate or simply don't understand how much scheme plays into WR play. That was literally the crux of my many arguments I had with the Kool-Aid Calvary last offseason about the Gattless's Offense being much much harder for our WR's.

If Dawson is running even a semblance of what he did at Houston, the WR's will eat this year.

If Ty Harrell stays healthy & Shemar Kirk gets integrated into the system, TVD will have some weapons to distribute to & that will open up the Offense for the rest of the guys like Young, George, Restrepo, Nate & Rob.

Hopefully, the TE's are allowed to do more than block.

Brother I kept posting this to nauseam last year. Early in the year I knew we were f’d just with the spacing , route concepts and formations. Any OC worth his salt can manifest some separation for his wr’s or use some kind of creativity to move defenders eyes. None of that happened. I feel so much better going into this year with the skill guys , Ol and the scheme. I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s one of the most improved offenses in the country ( that’s not saying a lot lol). In all seriousness I see good year of offensive football coming injuries excluded.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

I'm much more Bullish this season on WR than I was last year.

A lot of yall really either completely underestimate or simply don't understand how much scheme plays into WR play. That was literally the crux of my many arguments I had with the Kool-Aid Brigade last offseason about the Gattless's Offense being much much harder for our WR's.

If Dawson is running even a semblance of what he did at Houston, the WR's will eat this year.

If Ty Harrell stays healthy & Shemar Kirk gets integrated into the system, TVD will have some weapons to distribute to & that will open up the Offense for the rest of the guys like Young, George, Restrepo, Nate & Rob.

Hopefully, the TE's are allowed to do more than block.

I'm with you. I do have PTSD somewhat, I can't lie. I watched our kids run around last year absolutely velcro'd to DBs. But what you're saying is 1000% correct. If people can't understand, go pop in a Tennessee tape. Every single game there are multiple plays where there is nobody in the same zip code as a WR in that puke Tennessee orange. I'm not saying Dawson is Heupel, but there are ways to make life easier for your players. Dawson did go a good job of that at Houston, and he did at West Virginia and Southern Miss too. Gattass....not so much.

 

[Memnon]

I'm with you. I do have PTSD somewhat, I can't lie. I watched our kids run around last year absolutely velcro'd to DBs. But what you're saying is 1000% correct. If people can't understand, go pop in a Tennessee tape. Every single game there are multiple plays where there is nobody in the same zip code as a WR in that puke Tennessee orange. I'm not saying Dawson is Heupel, but there are ways to make life easier for your players. Dawson did go a good job of that at Houston, and he did at West Virginia and Southern Miss too. Gattass....not so much.

The name of the game is pace & space;

Spread'em out (pause) & attack Defenses at the Boundary, force them to commit Safety's & then attack the seams.

 

[Memnon]

Brother I kept posting this to nauseam last year. Early in the year I knew we were f’d just with the spacing , route concepts and formations. Any OC worth his salt can manifest some separation for his wr’s or use some kind of creativity to move defenders eyes. None of that happened. I feel so much better going into this year with the skill guys , Ol and the scheme. I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s one of the most improved offenses in the country ( that’s not saying a lot lol). In all seriousness I see good year of offensive football coming injuries excluded.

If we can get CJ Jr going early, in combination with Harrell & Ray Ray the added element of speed into the Offense should catapult us into being at very least competitively on par with UNC.

My only real worry this season is CB play & Mario's overall in-game decision making.

But from a personnel standpoint, we got the pieces to not be a completely ****** team lol.