QB Stats from Scrimmage #2

[ThomasM]

I just can't get over how people totally ignore Richt saying the completion percentage was low because they called a lot of low percentage passes. That's not coach speak. That's not excuses. That tells me they were working on those low percentage passes. That is NOT the play calling we'd see in a real game.

People hear what they want to hear.

 

[rok]

Considering the team has so few opportunities to scrimmage and simulate a game, what sense does it make to hold a scrimmage where all they do is practice low percentage throws?

 

[Cane Dynasty]

I just can't get over how people totally ignore Richt saying the completion percentage was low because they called a lot of low percentage passes. That's not coach speak. That's not excuses. That tells me they were working on those low percentage passes. That is NOT the play calling we'd see in a real game.

People hear what they want to hear.

Yes my friend, we understand that is what Rick 'said'. Our RB's caught 10 balls and the TE's caught a bunch too. That's not exactly the definition of low percentage.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Considering the team has so few opportunities to scrimmage and simulate a game, what sense does it make to hold a scrimmage where all they do is practice low percentage throws?

Which is why I have a hard time believing it.

 

[MIATL]

Considering the team has so few opportunities to scrimmage and simulate a game, what sense does it make to hold a scrimmage where all they do is practice low percentage throws?

Considering the team has so few opportunities to scrimmage and simulate a game, what sense does it make to hold a scrimmage where all they do is practice low percentage throws?

Which is why I have a hard time believing it.

Y'all better stop making sense.

 

[The Franchise]

No one smart is expecting Rosier or Shirreffs to win the Heismans this year. Some of us are hoping one of them can be better situated to lead us to wins than a guy who will have a month of practice under his belt when the season starts. If one of them can be a solid placeholder for a year and keep advancing the program's momentum forward (win 10 and win the Coastal and play in and win a major bowl), then he will have served us well. The program can't afford to take a dip so you play the odds.

Alabaga won a lot of football games in what was a tougher conference at the time with wholly mediocre QBs like McElroy, Sims and Coker. No one is expecting us to win a NC this year, but with our defense and our schedule, we don't need a mega ceiling low floor guy to accomplish our realistic goals this year.

Let Perry get comfortable and then have him take the baton next year and lead us to a NC. We'll probably need more playmaking from the QB next year with what could be a significant downgrade at DT.

 

[ThomasM]

No one smart is expecting Rosier or Shirreffs to win the Heismans this year. Some of us are hoping one of them can be better situated to lead us to wins than a guy who will have a month of practice under his belt when the season starts. If one of them can be a solid placeholder for a year and keep advancing the program's momentum forward (win 10 and win the Coastal and play in and win a major bowl), then he will have served us well. The program can't afford to take a dip so you play the odds.

Alabaga won a lot of football games in what was a tougher conference at the time with wholly mediocre QBs like McElroy, Sims and Coker. No one is expecting us to win a NC this year, but with our defense and our schedule, we don't need a mega ceiling low floor guy to accomplish our realistic goals this year.

Let Perry get comfortable and then have him take the baton next year and lead us to a NC. We'll probably need more playmaking from the QB next year with what could be a significant downgrade at DT.

Only 'problem' is this... If Shirreffs or Rozier leads us to 10+ wins, will Perry actually replace either one of them? It would be hard to bench a QB that leads you to 10 wins.

 

[The Franchise]

No one smart is expecting Rosier or Shirreffs to win the Heismans this year. Some of us are hoping one of them can be better situated to lead us to wins than a guy who will have a month of practice under his belt when the season starts. If one of them can be a solid placeholder for a year and keep advancing the program's momentum forward (win 10 and win the Coastal and play in and win a major bowl), then he will have served us well. The program can't afford to take a dip so you play the odds.

Alabaga won a lot of football games in what was a tougher conference at the time with wholly mediocre QBs like McElroy, Sims and Coker. No one is expecting us to win a NC this year, but with our defense and our schedule, we don't need a mega ceiling low floor guy to accomplish our realistic goals this year.

Let Perry get comfortable and then have him take the baton next year and lead us to a NC. We'll probably need more playmaking from the QB next year with what could be a significant downgrade at DT.

Only 'problem' is this... If Shirreffs or Rozier leads us to 10+ wins, will Perry actually replace either one of them? It would be hard to bench a QB that leads you to 10 wins.

It wouldn't be that hard at all unless we win 10+ because the QB was great. If Perry is who everyone hopes he is then he should be able to zoom past Rosier and Shirreffs after having a year plus is the system. It won't be a closed QB competition next year. It'll be up to someone to take it.

 

[Combo]

No one smart is expecting Rosier or Shirreffs to win the Heismans this year. Some of us are hoping one of them can be better situated to lead us to wins than a guy who will have a month of practice under his belt when the season starts. If one of them can be a solid placeholder for a year and keep advancing the program's momentum forward (win 10 and win the Coastal and play in and win a major bowl), then he will have served us well. The program can't afford to take a dip so you play the odds.

Alabaga won a lot of football games in what was a tougher conference at the time with wholly mediocre QBs like McElroy, Sims and Coker. No one is expecting us to win a NC this year, but with our defense and our schedule, we don't need a mega ceiling low floor guy to accomplish our realistic goals this year.

Let Perry get comfortable and then have him take the baton next year and lead us to a NC. We'll probably need more playmaking from the QB next year with what could be a significant downgrade at DT.

I like that scenario.

 

[D_G87]

He said the same thing about Corn and look how that turned out

Anyone in the know, care to comment about the oline, in particular Darling?

 

[ThomasM]

No one smart is expecting Rosier or Shirreffs to win the Heismans this year. Some of us are hoping one of them can be better situated to lead us to wins than a guy who will have a month of practice under his belt when the season starts. If one of them can be a solid placeholder for a year and keep advancing the program's momentum forward (win 10 and win the Coastal and play in and win a major bowl), then he will have served us well. The program can't afford to take a dip so you play the odds.

Alabaga won a lot of football games in what was a tougher conference at the time with wholly mediocre QBs like McElroy, Sims and Coker. No one is expecting us to win a NC this year, but with our defense and our schedule, we don't need a mega ceiling low floor guy to accomplish our realistic goals this year.

Let Perry get comfortable and then have him take the baton next year and lead us to a NC. We'll probably need more playmaking from the QB next year with what could be a significant downgrade at DT.

Only 'problem' is this... If Shirreffs or Rozier leads us to 10+ wins, will Perry actually replace either one of them? It would be hard to bench a QB that leads you to 10 wins.

It wouldn't be that hard at all unless we win 10+ because the QB was great. If Perry is who everyone hopes he is then he should be able to zoom past Rosier and Shirreffs after having a year plus is the system. It won't be a closed QB competition next year. It'll be up to someone to take it.

I don't know that we can win 10 games with mediocre QB play. GREAT QB play would easily get us 10 wins+. If we get blah results from the QB position, we probably won't see 10 wins. The QB play that we'll need to see 10 wins will have to be pretty good, thus being harder to replace.

 

[rok]

Why not allow Perry to get comfortable by beating up on Bethune Cookman and Arkansas State?

 

[ThomasM]

Why not allow Perry to get comfortable by beating up on Bethune Cookman and Arkansas State?

Why not let everyone give it a go against them?

 

[simplycanes]

Here is what we know:

We have one of, if not the best defense in the ACC.

Our QBs, collectively have 1 start between them.

I don't see how anyone is surprised the offense is struggling through scrimmage 2.

Our QBs have two cot dam starts between dem. Rosier at da Duke game and Testaverde da gawd Jr. At Texas Tech or wherever da **** he transferred from.

No, he didn't actually. Not that it makes a difference.

Played in one game (0 starts) passing for 116 yards on 15-of-26 passing with an interception... made career debut in a back-up role passing for 116 yards on 15-of-26 passing with an interception against Texas (11/1)... entered game against the Longhorns in the second quarter with 7:12 until halftime... was second-string quarterback in the Texas game and entered the game following an injury to freshman QB Patrick Mahomes.

Vincent Testaverde Bio - University of Miami Hurricanes Official Athletic Site

 

[simplycanes]

No one smart is expecting Rosier or Shirreffs to win the Heismans this year. Some of us are hoping one of them can be better situated to lead us to wins than a guy who will have a month of practice under his belt when the season starts. If one of them can be a solid placeholder for a year and keep advancing the program's momentum forward (win 10 and win the Coastal and play in and win a major bowl), then he will have served us well. The program can't afford to take a dip so you play the odds.

Alabaga won a lot of football games in what was a tougher conference at the time with wholly mediocre QBs like McElroy, Sims and Coker. No one is expecting us to win a NC this year, but with our defense and our schedule, we don't need a mega ceiling low floor guy to accomplish our realistic goals this year.

Let Perry get comfortable and then have him take the baton next year and lead us to a NC. We'll probably need more playmaking from the QB next year with what could be a significant downgrade at DT.

Only 'problem' is this... If Shirreffs or Rozier leads us to 10+ wins, will Perry actually replace either one of them? It would be hard to bench a QB that leads you to 10 wins.

It wouldn't be that hard at all unless we win 10+ because the QB was great. If Perry is who everyone hopes he is then he should be able to zoom past Rosier and Shirreffs after having a year plus is the system. It won't be a closed QB competition next year. It'll be up to someone to take it.

I agree with this.

You do whatever you have to do to win the games in front of your face. If that’s Rosier, then it’s Rosier. If its Shirreffs, it’s Shirreffs. What we cannot afford to do is take a step back in year 2 under Richt with this schedule. It just cannot happen.

Where it gets interesting is if Perry seems at least equally capable of winning this season. Interesting in that you can use the "build for the future" storyline, but alarming that not one other QB on the roster was good enough to beat out a true Freshmen with one month to prepare. It would say a lot and not all of it is good.

Then the schedule is about as friendly as can be for our situation. Easy enough that both winning and getting a true freshman ample opportunity to get some burn should both be possible.

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

No one smart is expecting Rosier or Shirreffs to win the Heismans this year. Some of us are hoping one of them can be better situated to lead us to wins than a guy who will have a month of practice under his belt when the season starts. If one of them can be a solid placeholder for a year and keep advancing the program's momentum forward (win 10 and win the Coastal and play in and win a major bowl), then he will have served us well. The program can't afford to take a dip so you play the odds.

Alabaga won a lot of football games in what was a tougher conference at the time with wholly mediocre QBs like McElroy, Sims and Coker. No one is expecting us to win a NC this year, but with our defense and our schedule, we don't need a mega ceiling low floor guy to accomplish our realistic goals this year.

Let Perry get comfortable and then have him take the baton next year and lead us to a NC. We'll probably need more playmaking from the QB next year with what could be a significant downgrade at DT.

Only 'problem' is this... If Shirreffs or Rozier leads us to 10+ wins, will Perry actually replace either one of them? It would be hard to bench a QB that leads you to 10 wins.

It wouldn't be that hard at all unless we win 10+ because the QB was great. If Perry is who everyone hopes he is then he should be able to zoom past Rosier and Shirreffs after having a year plus is the system. It won't be a closed QB competition next year. It'll be up to someone to take it.

I don't know that we can win 10 games with mediocre QB play. GREAT QB play would easily get us 10 wins+. If we get blah results from the QB position, we probably won't see 10 wins. The QB play that we'll need to see 10 wins will have to be pretty good, thus being harder to replace.

Or with mediocre/bad OL play. That's probably where the Alabama analogy breaks down, and that's assuming our defense is as good as we all think it's going to be this year.

 

[252cane]

He said the same thing about Corn and look how that turned out

Anyone in the know, care to comment about the oline, in particular Darling?

2 different people.

 

[cubin10]

I just can't get over how people totally ignore Richt saying the completion percentage was low because they called a lot of low percentage passes. That's not coach speak. That's not excuses. That tells me they were working on those low percentage passes. That is NOT the play calling we'd see in a real game.

People hear what they want to hear.

People don't want to wait till they see what the see, there will be a number 1 quarterback at some point in time, that quarterback will be subject to being replaced depending on how he plays and on and on. Let's hope we get the right guy at the right time to do the job.

 

[rok]

Why not allow Perry to get comfortable by beating up on Bethune Cookman and Arkansas State?

Why not let everyone give it a go against them?

I'm not against using those games as an audition between Shirreffs, Rosier, Perry.

Two games (albeit against two doormats) is a decent sample size. Hopefully someone would stand out and be given the reins before FSU.

 

[DTP]

We're hoping that we don't have to rely too much on the quarterback to win 10+ games this year but we're assuming the offensive line makes a HUGE jump from terrible to really good. It's not like the running game was doing anything at all during the losing streak last season. We could end up losing a few 17-7 games this year if the line plays like it did last season.